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Hi, I have a silly question but a friend of mine just bought an ASIC from a private person and after the sale the guy told him that the ASIC was stolen or I don't know what (we don't know more, the seller doesn't answer anymore ^^), yet the ASIC works perfectly according to my friend, so my question is to know if with a stolen ASIC he risks something? Like since an ASIC must be connected in ethernet it can be traced or not at all?
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Bonjour, je compte acheter un ASIC a un particulier en physique en gros en main propre et je compte faire des ptit test au asic pour voir si il a aucun probleme, ma question etait de savoir si il existe des boutiques pour acheter des ASIC en France ?
Ou alors un site special pour les particuliers genre lbc mais pour les ASIC ??
J'ai une autre question, partons du principe que j'ai acheté un asic a une personne physiquement et que j'ai payé en liquide, je dois declarer ou pas , et comment, je ne sais pas si je dois declarer si j'achete un gros objet assez cher comme celui ci qui rapportera de l'argent !!
merci d'avance
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I understand that, but if I find a physical person from whom to buy it in this case there will be no delay What makes you think that that physical person would be willing to sell you the same miner at the same price, even with such "insane" daily profits that they could make themselves? Obviously, but they time they decide to sell it to you, it won't be that profitable anymore. no not at all I understood the risks linked to ASIC, ether, etc
I'm just asking a simple question, I know it's not that simple and about E9 if the mining profits stay like this or even decrease it will still be huge and yes E9 mining can make you rich (for those who can afford it) ^^
Look, I don't think anyone is trying to discourage you here. Most members are trying to advise you based on what they have seen in the past. They are simply trying to make you look at the bigger picture so that you are prepared in case things don't go as you expected. yes probably someone who would sell it more expensive but I'm sure it exists yes I understand that, but the problem is that these "advices" are only based on assumptions (just like me), I only get answers like "the PoW, PoS" "if the profits go down you do what" "the hashrate will increase...." Bitmain is very famous for mining with their ASICS for a few months and then later on selling it to their customers. Many people observed this when they would dust inside their miner which Bitmain claimed was simply “dust” season in the factory it was built.
Right now their issue is with the China crackdown. So most likely it will be a while until you will be able to order one and mine with it. Most likely by the time you pay and the time you receive it, the difficulty will grow a large bunch. Buy it if you wish but just know the risks.
I understand that, but if I find a physical person from whom to buy it in this case there will be no delay You are absolutely blinded by the numbers. If mining so easy as you mentioned, so why we are go to work every day. Only multiply some numbers from internet and yes we are all rich  Search an E9 Miner and we all get rich?  I offered you an service for your mining journey, but all what you want is get rich in days with no work. He ask the same question for weeks now here, every time the same, he learned no new stuff and just want to get rich quickly. no not at all I understood the risks linked to ASIC, ether, etc I'm just asking a simple question, I know it's not that simple and about E9 if the mining profits stay like this or even decrease it will still be huge and yes E9 mining can make you rich (for those who can afford it) ^^ You think like a beginner. Even if your calculations are correct, then you have not taken into account one very important point. When these ASICs begin to be sold on the market, the network hashrate will grow dramatically and the profit will decrease for all miners. If the price of the coin decreases, then your payback period can greatly increase. of course if I understand that ... what I mean is that the profits are huge and even if there is a drop of say 50%, the profits are still huge ! I don't know much about mining, I'm a "beginner" as you say but it seems impossible to me that in less than 2 years the profits drop by 50% on an ASIC... after if I'm wrong tell me ^^ |
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Bitmain is very famous for mining with their ASICS for a few months and then later on selling it to their customers. Many people observed this when they would dust inside their miner which Bitmain claimed was simply “dust” season in the factory it was built.
Right now their issue is with the China crackdown. So most likely it will be a while until you will be able to order one and mine with it. Most likely by the time you pay and the time you receive it, the difficulty will grow a large bunch. Buy it if you wish but just know the risks.
I understand that, but if I find a physical person from whom to buy it in this case there will be no delay You are absolutely blinded by the numbers. If mining so easy as you mentioned, so why we are go to work every day. Only multiply some numbers from internet and yes we are all rich Search an E9 Miner and we all get rich? I offered you an service for your mining journey, but all what you want is get rich in days with no work. He ask the same question for weeks now here, every time the same, he learned no new stuff and just want to get rich quickly. no not at all I understood the risks linked to ASIC, ether, etc I'm just asking a simple question, I know it's not that simple and about E9 if the mining profits stay like this or even decrease it will still be huge and yes E9 mining can make you rich (for those who can afford it) ^^ |
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Bonjour, je compte acheter un ASIC a un particulier en physique en gros en main propre et je compte faire des ptit test au asic pour voir si il a aucun probleme, ma question etait de savoir si il existe des boutiques pour acheter des ASIC en France ?
Ou alors un site special pour les particuliers genre lbc mais pour les ASIC ??
J'ai une autre question, partons du principe que j'ai acheté un asic a une personne physiquement et que j'ai payé en liquide, je dois declarer ou pas , et comment, je ne sais pas si je dois declarer si j'achete un gros objet assez cher comme celui ci qui rapportera de l'argent !!
merci d'avance
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Bonjour, je compte acheter un ASIC a un particulier en physique en gros en main propre et je compte faire des ptit test au asic pour voir si il a aucun probleme, ma question etait de savoir si il existe des boutiques pour acheter des ASIC en France ?
Ou alors un site special pour les particuliers genre lbc mais pour les ASIC ??
J'ai une autre question, partons du principe que j'ai acheté un asic a une personne physiquement et que j'ai payé en liquide, je dois declarer ou pas , et comment, je ne sais pas si je dois declarer si j'achete un gros objet assez cher comme celui ci qui rapportera de l'argent !!
merci d'avance
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100$ par jour ça reste encore enorme et ça m'etonnerais que ça baisse a ce point
On s'en fout de 100$ par jours ou 2000$ par jour . Il faut calculer le retour en BTC. Et bien souvent l'achat en BTC direct et plus interessant. Acheter pour 5.000€ de mineur et dire que dans un ans tu as récupérer 7500€ ne veux rien dire. Car si le BTC chute tu va rien gagner et cela ne couvrira même pas des coûts reçurent. Et si le BTC monte va tu vraiment récupérer autant que si tu avais acheter simplement un BTC? Et je te promet que plus le BTC monte plus la difficulté explose donc au final pas forcement une bonne chose pour le mining. je comprends ce que tu veux dire mais là deja je parle de l'ether psk le antminer e9 sers a miner cette crypto principalement et puis je reste quand meme gagnant meme si l'eth baisse un peu , les profits restent monstrueux !!
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Don't buy the Bitmain Antminer E9! It's mining Ethereum, and we all know that it will go Proof of Stake in early 2022, then you not able to mine Ethereum. The ASIC can't switch to other coins that GPUs can. Well, you actually can mine other Ethash coins. But they are very low cap and has low net hashrate compaired to Ethereum, so your profits will plumber!
ETH PoS have been in work for years the truth is ETH Devs never make it happen till this day and there is already rumours of bugs affecting ETH 2.0 as we speak which makes me feel like ETH 2.0 isn't coming any time soon, I believe it's a good time to start mining still perfect, so I just need to find this famous miner So the miner hasn't been released yet, right?
At least that's what I see with several sites saying "coming soon"
The profits are just projections based on the current network status and market conditions. Imagine is that miner is released into the market, Those with money will obviously rush to buy it. The network hashrate could change, and the attractive daily profits you are looking at right now as awesome could change to much lower ones.
If you put into consideration where Ether's price could plummet by over 70% from the current price which is very possible. Then profit calculations in USD become a little meaningless right now.
yes I too can't figure out when the E9 will be released but even if the profits drop it's still a huge profit Don't buy the Bitmain Antminer E9! It's mining Ethereum, and we all know that it will go Proof of Stake in early 2022, then you not able to mine Ethereum
Please stop the bs, eth going pos will happen in years, most likely 2025-2030 at best, not in 2022. Also, asic market = scam market, you buy, you lose 99.9% times. why is it a scam market? Hello, I have a question, I asked about this ASIC the Bitmain Antminer E9, a hell of an ASIC that costs about 30000$ (well if we find it) and I looked on the site whattomine the profits I can make with this machine and I saw for more than a week a figure that turns around 230$ of profit per day which is just HUGE !
and i did a little calculation 230 x 365 = 83950 !! 83950 (profit per year) - 30000 (price of the asic) = 53950
it's just monstrous in less than a year without counting the electricity (0.06€ per kWh) I'm in the profit in less than a year!! how to explain that?
Can someone please enlighten me, tell me if there are hidden costs that I don't take into account except for taxes, there are no additional things to take into account in there because it just seems huge
how do I justify this please?
1) You can't get it so who cares. 2) The risk to getting an asic that only mines eth is eth has tested the progpow algo and can switch to it if they want to turning that 30k unit into a brick. 3) Maybe they actually do go to POS in 2022 ( I doubt it) These 3 answers cover it. no add # 4 4) bitmain is better off not selling them and just mine eth as much as they can. why wouldn't Bitmain sell it? they announced its release... If you come across any online store displaying this E9 ASIC miner they are simply trying to scam you, the only ASIC miner you can really get your hands on is innosilicon A10 pro, those E9 shouldn't be available for the public
but if I find someone who agrees to sell it to me personally I can't get ripped off, I'll just have to do some tests to make sure everything is in order. why wouldn't it be sold to the public? |
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Si la difficulté s'ajuste à la hausse, la marge se réduira considérablement.
Il faut également compter sur les temps d'indisponibilité: entretien, mise à jour, pannes (qui peuvent être multiple: bug, panne matérielle, coupures de réseau, baisse de débit, etc.)
Il est également difficile d'obtenir le hashrate maxi théorique.
Ceci dit, tes tarifs d'électricité sont absolument canons!
A ta place, je tenterais le coup.
les frais d'electricité sont très bas parce que je compte le mettre dans une societe d'hébergement pour le minage de cryptomonnaie. (startmining.io) ducoup pour les problemes de panne etc c'est pas vraiment un probleme . il y aura juste surement un petit pourcentage a laché mais bon comme je l'ai dit tout les problemes en haut n'en seront plus . Bonjour, j'aurais une question, je me suis renseigner sur ce ASIC le Bitmain Antminer E9, un sacré ASIC qui coute environ 30000$ (enfin si on le trouve) et j'ai regardé sur le site whattomine les profits que je peux faire avec cette machine et j'ai vu pendant plus d'une semaine un chiffre qui tourne autour des 230$ de profit par jour ce qui est juste ENORME !!
et j'ai fais un petit calcul 230 x 365 = 83950 !! 83950 (profit par an) - 30000 (prix du asic) = 53950 $
c'est juste monstrueux en moins d'un an sans compté l'electricité (0.06€ par kWh) je suis dans le benefice en moins d'un ans !! comment expliquer ça ?7
Est-ce que quelqu'un peut m'eclaircir svp, dites moi si y'a des frais caché que je ne prend pas en compte mis a par les taxes et les impots, il n'y a pas de trucs supplementaires a prendre en compte là dedans parce que ça parait juste enorme
comment justifier ça svp ?
juste pour dire que AUJOURDHUI il gagne $230/ jour. La semaine derniere il gagnait que $180 Il y a deux mois il gagnait que $100 / jours .... Combien gagnera t'il par jours dans 3 mois ?? 100$ par jour ça reste encore enorme et ça m'etonnerais que ça baisse a ce point |
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Antminer E9 is a powerful ETH miner and yes with 30,000+$ you can get one, ASIC miner E9 is capable of 3000MH on ETH and that's 287$ per day if you use flexpool which is currently the most profitable pool but the problem is buying this ASIC and not getting scammed in the process, mind you mining profits just increased too due to surge in BTC and ETH so the 287$ won't be permanent
yes I know that the profits are higher than usual but even if it is divided by two (which will not happen at once and is unlikely) it is still huge That's true if you want to buy this ASIC miner make sure you buy from official source or trusted sellers only, lately ASIC miner scams are growing up in numbers make sure you do good research first and if you are in the USA better use popular stores
I live in France and I plan to buy one in a serious place (as soon as I find one), I plan to go there myself and not order one on internet Don't buy the Bitmain Antminer E9! It's mining Ethereum, and we all know that it will go Proof of Stake in early 2022, then you not able to mine Ethereum. The ASIC can't switch to other coins that GPUs can. Well, you actually can mine other Ethash coins. But they are very low cap and has low net hashrate compaired to Ethereum, so your profits will plumber!
I don't know much about it but we are not sure yet what will happen |
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salut
A noter :
-La dispo
-Le délai de livraison
-(Confiance du site (lâcher 30 k sur un site étranger), frais de douane
-Frais elec
-ROI calculé pour un BTC a quasi 50k (cad son ath)
-Declaration de revenue
-durée de vie et garantie ?
merci de ta reponse, mais en soit a par ça tout ce que j'ai dit en haut est vrai, cette machine est juste enorme et le profit generé chaque jour permet de le rentabiliser en moins de 1 ans |
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J'y connais rien en mining...c'est combien la conso d'électricité ?
il consomme selon sa fiche technique 0,12 $ par kWh et moi je paye mon electricité 0,07$ |
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Hello, I have a question, I asked about this ASIC the Bitmain Antminer E9, a hell of an ASIC that costs about 30000$ (well if we find it) and I looked on the site whattomine the profits I can make with this machine and I saw for more than a week a figure that turns around 230$ of profit per day which is just HUGE !
and i did a little calculation 230 x 365 = 83950 !! 83950 (profit per year) - 30000 (price of the asic) = 53950
it's just monstrous in less than a year without counting the electricity (0.06€ per kWh) I'm in the profit in less than a year!! how to explain that?
Can someone please enlighten me, tell me if there are hidden costs that I don't take into account except for taxes, there are no additional things to take into account in there because it just seems huge
how do I justify this please?
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Bonjour, j'aurais une question, je me suis renseigner sur ce ASIC le Bitmain Antminer E9, un sacré ASIC qui coute environ 30000$ (enfin si on le trouve) et j'ai regardé sur le site whattomine les profits que je peux faire avec cette machine et j'ai vu pendant plus d'une semaine un chiffre qui tourne autour des 230$ de profit par jour ce qui est juste ENORME !!
et j'ai fais un petit calcul 230 x 365 = 83950 !! 83950 (profit par an) - 30000 (prix du asic) = 53950 $
c'est juste monstrueux en moins d'un an sans compté l'electricité (0.06€ par kWh) je suis dans le benefice en moins d'un ans !! comment expliquer ça ?7
Est-ce que quelqu'un peut m'eclaircir svp, dites moi si y'a des frais caché que je ne prend pas en compte mis a par les taxes et les impots, il n'y a pas de trucs supplementaires a prendre en compte là dedans parce que ça parait juste enorme
comment justifier ça svp ?
Edit modo : changement de titre pour centraliser les topics crés par Wahid.92000
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Hello, I would like to know which ASIC you would advise me to make a maximum profit? For information I pay 0,06€ per kWh (0,07$) and I have a lot of money to invest.
How is the Bitmain Antminer E9, according to the site whattomine.com this miner produces 220$ per day and costs at its maximum output 30000$, is it good? In how long can I make it profitable? and in how many years it will become obsolete?
How long will this miner last? because it looks incredible!
220 x 150 (days) = 33000$ even if I know it's not as simple as that and I don't count the elec but it looks amazing
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Bonjour, je voudrais savoir quel ASIC vous me conseilleriez pour faire un maximum de profit ? Pour information je paye 0,06€ par kWh (0,07$) et j'ai beaucoup d'argent à investir.
Comment est le Bitmain Antminer E9, selon le site whattomine.com ce mineur produit 220$ par jour et coûte à sa sortie maximale 30000$, est-il bon ? en combien de temps je peux le rentabiliser ? et en combien d'années il deviendra obsolète ?
Combien de temps ce mineur va durée ? parce qu'il a l'air incroyable !
220 x 150 (jours) = 33000$ meme si je sais que c'est pas aussi simple que ça et que je compte pas l'elec mais ça a l'air ouf
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This post doesn't belong here mate, move it to altcoin mining section here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0About your question it depends on your capability, even better if you have free electricity meaning you can buy cheaper but old ASIC miners like innosilicon T2, yes antminer E9 is awesome, honestly your electricity is damn cheap so go for it ah yes sorry and thank you for your answer |
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Hello, I would like to know which ASIC you would advise me to make a maximum profit? For information I pay 0.06€ per kWh (0.07$) and I have much money to invest.
How is the Bitmain Antminer E9, according to the site whattomine.com this miner produces 220$ per day and costs at its maximum release 30000$, is it good? in how long I can make it profitable? and in how many years it will become obselete?
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From the new ones,especially now in November the Antminer L7 with 9500 Mhsh of processing power for mining Litecoin is making right now a net 124 USD daily after removing the electricity price.I cannot find a better making money machine ASIC at this price than this one which will go live in November 2021 just one month from now.I of course do not know who the difficulty and price of Scrypt coins (Litecoin,Dogecoin etc) which this machine can mine will go but things are looking very good at the moment.Again no one can predict the future but for the moment this is for me the best machine yet.I say this based on price as the E9 makes like 200 USD daily but it cost 25.000 USD which is a lot of money and if ETH goes PoS you are stuck.These two are the best machines right now,personally if I had the money I would go for Antminer L7 as it has a better price.
That's an incredible $200 per day for $25,000 invested, 365x 3 = $1095 200 x 1095 = 219000$, so if the etherum stays stable enough the ASIC can really make money. You don't know its lifetime ? To the e3 If you are new and not a fake account you don’t understand the game. First no on has the L7 in stock. Second we are at a high tide point maybe not the highest tide but fairly high. So paying 12-15k usd for a piece of gear that may take 60 days to arrive is risky. Look for a few used L3+ you can get right now. they are old but they are cheaper. get your feet wet a bit before you drop big money on the L7 I have 11 L3+ and I am waiting on my L7 to come around nov 30. the 11 L3+ earn 21 usd worth of Ltc and 60 usd worth of doge a day about 80 usd a day right now. okay but I was talking about the E9, I have enough to invest in it so I might as well take it and look at whattomine.com "Revenue 24h Profit 24h Top Coins Profit Bitmain Antminer E9 2021 3.00 Gh/s 2600W Ethash $226.58 $220.34" the profit is just huge so my calculation above is right I guess? |
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