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After trying our best to provide to customers and to us  mining equipment we realised that actually like Avalon did long time ago. NO IC's Manufacturer release any real working product out there. Must of them have an unstable product, take preorders and decide to sell IC's when they know perfectly no one can use them. We are making a calculation (more precise than web calculation but based on our own mining farm) it is IMPOSSIBLE to get ROI now days. Before ROI is reached, rent, electricity, maintenance etc ... will become more expensive than the BitCoin generated. We are wondering when seeing prices per GH out there how can people still buy. We would like instead of getting ripped by IC's manufacturers supplying us "crappy" IC, some sell more expensive IC than the full miner ex : ... A1 ... If we can find a solution instead of Group buy that is actually not even interesting any more jointtalent togheter to finally make a product that is interesting for all.... Big IC's manufacturer and big assembly factories now have all the power in their hands are selfish and make everyone loose money.. This post is just a discussion post to try and assemble people in order to raise against those Giants industries. |
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Free Shipping tends to mean something different to everyone else in the world, you should label it as " Available for Pickup"
What you are doing is confusing people into selecting this option and then asking them to "retract order" like user apollojmr earlier in this thread
That is exactly correct and I am still waiting for them to cancel my order via paypal and until they do I have to wait for my funds to be returned. I will not do business with them even if it drops to $899 including delivery.  We did cancel your paypal... this is the proof please do not ruin reputation without any reason, we have made a mistake with the website regarding FREE shipping, it is fixed now, NO more free shippping only local pick or local delivery for China ONLY... Free Shipping tends to mean something different to everyone else in the world, you should label it as " Available for Pickup"
What you are doing is confusing people into selecting this option and then asking them to "retract order" like user apollojmr earlier in this thread
We have followed your advice it has been changed to local pick up. Free Shipping tends to mean something different to everyone else in the world, you should label it as " Available for Pickup"
What you are doing is confusing people into selecting this option and then asking them to "retract order" like user apollojmr earlier in this thread
That is exactly correct and I am still waiting for them to cancel my order via paypal and until they do I have to wait for my funds to be returned. I will not do business with them even if it drops to $899 including delivery. Thank you for this anecdote. I will wait  At $999 + $150 shipping, I'm tempted, but not if there are issues already. Still a bit bitter with the way Bit-Tech screwed some of us with ~750GH/s-800GH/s rigs instead of their stated 950GH/s, and then disappeared  *grumbles* We have allowed one customer paid via BTC FREE shipping regarding our mistake, via paypal we cannot due to FEES ... Wait until feedback from him and judge by yourself.... |
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1.2TH for $999 ? Shipped to the USA ? Where do I sign ?
 hmm don't know was asking myself same question coz I'd sign also if I could deduct delivery and get it that price ... No there is a certain logic delivery to the US is about 150$, FREE shipping means "I Come collect my unit myself or .. just ship to my forwarder or what ever" that doesn't concern us if we ship abroad there are delivery fees. |
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We usually use DHL to USA though sometimes FEDEX is a bit faster.
Shipping time should be between 3-6 days.
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So I bought a 1.2 th miner on their website last night and today I get an email asking me to "retract my order" because paypal fees and shipping were not included in the price they had sold it to me for. I would think that in 2014 that a business that has a website would have that figured out. I have replied to that email and messaged OP here with no success to see if its possible to just pay the fees separate and I cannot get a response. Now I am going to have to go through the paypal resolution center just to "retract" this deal and I am sure I will get some response now. We will see.
We are in China, you sent the email at around 2am our time so sorry we didn't answer, Paypal fees are extremly high on paypal the take from us 5% commission than 5% again when converting fund from USD to HongKong Dollars, that's 10% fees, and there is the option on the website "FREE SHIPPING" or "International Shipping, why did you select free shipping?  We recommend 138.45 or something like that round amounts don't look good we can put "second hand computers" as description. so thats what you will declare on the item for customs? Custome Declaration is up to the client we usually write "second hand desktops" value normally about 150$. |
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Delivery is not included, please when placing order on website choose delivery option (international delivery)
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We recommend 138.45 or something like that round amounts don't look good we can put "second hand computers" as description. |
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Na  lets not exagerate .... Delivery is 150$ more of course, people should unerstand we are making efforts to provide best prices on the market, we are not scammers so sorry we cannot efford to lose money this is the lowest we can go. 1150$ Delivery included You have been poping out many times but .... We have lowered our pense down that's the best offer we can do |
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It seems it's all about the Benjamin so here we go to please sceptics NEW PRICES .... 2X 600Gh/s Total 1200Gh/s IC's are the same as BTC Garden (FryCat IC's) Now to exclude all doubt BTC Garden Price is 1020$ for 4 units Our 2 Units price 1.2T is 999$ LIMITED PROMOTION Without power supply With power supply Unit price is 1150$ Full Working Unit WorldWide Devliery included (for Russia add 100$ more) 1300$ |
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Hey, smells like BTCGarden miners reselling (4x310 for 1020USD w/o PSUs) - or is it your own developed miner or miner built on BlackArrow hasboards&chips ? thanks for honest reply.
Honnest Reply yes it is the same except BOM list Yes the product uses same IC's and follows same SCH and same Firmware just BOM list is not the same (BOM from Digikey). we are working on our own board with 24 IC's per Board but it seems to have some issues with the firmware when it comes to mining on F2POOL. Seems like 399USD/miner/month on your www site - so which is it ? 299 ? or 399 ? Anyway, are you willing to go down to 150-180USD/miner/month territory ? 299 is WAY OFF for 1kW miner - Also do you offer remote access (ssh/ssl) ? - what is min. availability per month you will honor ? 99% or more/less? The price is as off 299$ ( should update website... damn webdesigners depending on how many miners let me explain: Our Mining farm is in China as you may know or not in China you need to reserve your KW in advance and pay for them whether you use them or NOT, so if you are talking 1 miner No we won't go down to 180$ if you are talking 10-20 miners we can go down to that price, For now we do not offer remot but if requested we can do it of course. - what is min. availability per month you will honor ? 99% or more/less?
Didn't get that? NEW NEW NEW 1200Gh/s 1150$
(4X310Gh/s) This unit is composed of 4 units of 310Gh/s Each unit mining at 1200Gh/s 1.2T with power consomption
1W/G Powered by 2 X 650W PSU. Each 2 units of 620Gh/s are powerd by 1 650W Power Supply units are sold without power supply and do not include delivery.
We can how ever provide you with power supplied, for 75$ Each or you can by it by yourself anywhere else as long as they have 4 AT 6 PIN output cables.
I am confused here:
- so which hashboards and chips is your miner composed of ? BlackArrow ? Cointerra ?
- so you buy hashboards from XX and put it together with Rpi&cables&case&PSU and sell it ?
- does it support cgminer ? (stupid question I know)
thanks in advance for your reply!
We have produced till now our selves A1 1T miner ourselves but IC's price are really not interesting since it seems Bitmine decided to sell miners themselves and in order not to break their own market give extremely high prices on IC's. [/list] |
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Fair enough to be honnest I am sorry for that mistake with BlackArrow, when we met we talked about CoinTerra a bit and I guess I wrote this post too fast than our web designer followed the post as I asked and BOOM copied my mistakes into the website ... Anyway, discount for 1 unit I answered you via PM already, I can give you FREE SHIPPING for this first unit. Pay to Ognasty directly so contact him before you pay transfer to him 2,25 BTC, it's impossible to go lower than that .. |
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I personnaly apologize for this completely stupid mistake and even more since we have met and I made this hugh mistake sorry I guess my mind was too messed up, I guess it's called Bitcoin fever.
Sorry again,
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We have never said they are production samples we said as you know exactly when we met that we where waiting for samples unit to develop our own PCB, so please why do you say Scammers what's the matter with you???
Sorry if we have offended you we really didn't mean to, we have seen and also have bought a few IC's, we do not buy IC's just to look at them guys we need to use them as well right???
I think personnaly trying to avoid people from developping and reselling Miners based on your IC's is not really a good politic of sell ....
If you do not want us to try develop PCB based on your IC's it's ok never mind but DO NOT CALL US SCAMMERS as you know exactly who I am since we met in your office not long ago.
Again sorry if offended you in Anyway
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Hi,
You are welcome to come test the units in our Factory in Shenzhen, you can just call us or email us or via skype to fixe an appointement.
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Hi, We are selling BTC Miners (see following post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=687485.new#new) and would like recommad your escrow services to our customers, When Transaction is done please follow the BTC to the following Wallet: 12AvXjosWyC77gffVMzpue8Fvr1hYFSyPP Our Email is: info@miningforge.complease confirim via email when BTC arrived so we can ship product |
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First you are offering a "A1 CoinCraft 1030Gh/s" miner.
After that you are offering a Cointerra X1 running 120GH/s and a Cointerra X2 miner running 240GH/s.
After that you say that "Those BackPanel are the back panels of the CoinTerra X3 1.2T Miner"
But, Cointerra does not make an X3 miner, nor do they have a miner which runs at 1.2TH/s.
Also those Cointerra X1 and X2 miners are interesting because Cointerra only makes a 500 GH/s chips.
Then the pictures you show are pictures of Black Arrow X1 hashboards and a single X3 hashboard (X2), with Black Arrow chips and Black Arrow heatsinks.
After that "If anyone doubts us you can ask around, Martino (TechnoBit) we sold him IC's A2 and A1, you can ask FryCat as well, or BlackArrow"
Now I may not be up to date with everything but I personally haven't heard of you before.
Yes indead we are selling A1 miners 1030Gh/s same Schematics as Inno Silicon, about Coin Terra, you are definitley right we have made a mistake, the it is indead from BlackArrow, We went there and negociated to resell their X1 (1 IC 120Gh/s) X2 they promissed us this weeks (2 IC 240 Gh/s) and the X3 (1.2T supposely) is ready as well we are waiting for their Schematics to preduce our own PCB layout since their PCB layout is burning hot and way too expensive. we have bought already some BlackArrow IC and are waiting for our sample to start preducing since we still have doubts about the PCB temperature. It is hard to have reputation on forum but please if someone has real complaints about us than post it on forums if not do not ruin our reputation for no reasons. We are in China and are trying to get the best Gh/$ until now A1 is still too expensive IC's only run at about 0.7$ per Gh we have negociated with fry cat and may find a better solution but they have admitted that until now their PCB is not stable either so we stick to A1 which has proven his reliabilty until something better comes along. |
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I was thinking that STAY AWAY SCAM ALERT
If anyone doubts us you can ask around, Martino (TechnoBit) we sold him IC's A2 and A1, you can ask FryCat as well, or BlackArrow, We Accept paypal, delivery in person, so if you doubt anything please verify before Thanks 100% scam. Those are BA chips and backplanes.
Those BackPanel are the back panels of the CoinTerra X3 1.2T Miner, they are not a device themselves the IC uses are BlackArrows IC's and it's their design since we went to negociate with them their products prices as well as IC's. Those machines look like LKETC's, and also several other chinese retailers products. Capturing the western market at different angles are we? I went to your website and seen the render of your new 2th/s machine soon to come. Needless to say you are waaay off. Its is actually going to look like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=685749.0 Yes Indead we are following LKETC Schematics since it is the best out there, there are 3 Schematics for the A1 IC , Swisse Bitmine.ch, Chinese Low Costs (not power efficient) and InnoSilicon (some may think it's LKETC but NO !!!!!!!) we are following InnoSiliicon Design. For any other doubts we Accept Paypal, and you can come pick up your unit directly. even more Escrow so how can we be Scammers??? Before accusing please read full thread. |
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Problem is investing money now and getting return of investment when??? if losing 3 month ex:
1500X4=6000$ for 4 units 1A 1T miners today and start mining now by the time spoondoolies deliveres the money you get your money back and profit.
Bitcoin mining time is money
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NEW PRICE A1 1T MINER 1205$NEW NEW NEW 2X module of 600GH/s each total Hash Power 1200Gh/s Per Unit 999$ LIMITED PROMOTION Without PSU, SHIPPING NOT INCLUDED NOR PAYPAL FEES  PRICE WITH POWER SUPPLY 1150$ : Link on our website: http://miningforge.com/product/ahhua-1-2-ths-bitcoin-miner/Unit Inlcudes:- 2X modules of 600GH/s Each
- 2X700W 80 GOLD POWER SUPPLY (with 2X700W units will go up to 1.3T from time to time
- 1 Rusberry Pie(2X600Gh/s) This unit is composed of 2 modules of 600Gh/s Each complet unit mining at 1200Gh/s 1.2T with power consomption 1300W. If you decide to buy without power supply make sure to buy a 4 AT 6 PIN output cables power supply minium 80 GOLD A1 CoinCraft 1030Gh/s High Quality Cooling system immediate shipping PRODUCTION 100pcs/day: BTC2.00 BTC 1205 USD  Product Specifications: Hash rate : 4 modules work on 1T/S Power: AC input 1000 W/H Size: 480*176*350 mm Gross weight: 16Kg Noise: less than 52 DB Fan size: 12CM*2 Chip quantity: 32PCS 28nm ASIC Overclocking parameter:1000Mhz + The mine pool rate: not less than 1000G Package includes: 1000G Miner*1 PWM Cable *1 UTP Cable * Real Hasing Rate: Product Description and pictures: http://miningforge.com/product/coincraft-storm-2/IC's Available immediately: A1 CoinCraft 31.25Gh/s Black Arrow 120Gh/s X1 BlackArrow120Gh/s X2 BlackArrow 250Gh/s  Brief introduction: Who is Miningforge.comWe have started as IC's reseller in 2013 with Avalon First Generation moved on to A1 and now BlackArrow, we have started manufaturing our own miners this year due to IC's prices going MAD  We are highly experience in IC's therefor we only work with Best Grades IC's. We are located in Hongkong/China. Fine out more about us on our website: http://miningforge.com/company-profile/Our Factory: http://miningforge.com/factory/
We also offer Housing Service:- Start Mining Same day we receive payment
- Mining on your Wallet immeditely
 Housing Service description via this link: http://miningforge.com/product/housing-of-your-coincraft-unit/[/list] Prices are 299$/month for 1000W unit Including Electricity, 24/7 maintenance, Rent, minimum contact 1 month Shippment immeditely if requested by customer. How to purchase: We recommande placing orders via website: - escrow service
- Paypal (PAYAPL FEES NEED TO BE ADDED
- Bank Wire
- BitCoin Pay to this Wallet: 12AvXjosWyC77gffVMzpue8Fvr1hYFSyPP
How to get in touch with us: We prefere contact via email since forum PM takes long time to reply. You can collect your unit in Hong Kong as well. UPDATE: We have corrently never recieved our X1-X2 Sample Miners from BlackArrow so we can only provide with IC's that we have personnaly bought from them. We at present we do not wish to develop our own PCB using BlackArrow IC's due to Heat issues that we are afraid will take us too long to solve. We deeply apologize for the misunderstanding about X2 CoinTerra and BlackArrowSoftware Sorry guys my mistake went too a bit too fast and made some mistakes ....  been visiting too many IC factory and got messed up sorry again Guys.
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Like to know where to reach you guys and how to order some samples IC's please reply to info@miningforge.com |
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