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1  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Habanero - 650GH/s - Batch 2 Shipping June 9th, $850 ($1.3/GH/s) on: June 07, 2014, 04:08:12 PM
Hey guys,

1st, thank you to sidehack and daemonfox for answering my earlier concerns on whether or not it is still profitable to bitcoin mine.
I do remember someone in this thread asking if it is better to push or pull air into/out of the radiator and so after doing some quick research it appears that performance would be the same whether push or pull and there is no reason to configure the radiators to push and pull(fans on both sides of the radiator) because you can get good fans which will give the same performance just pushing or pulling as if one would set up their radiator fans to push and pull.  The only upside to configure the radiator fans to pull is it will not dust up or clog the radiator with dust nearly as much as pulling the air from the radiator and it would be easier to, once in a while, clean the dust off of the radiator.  See the vid below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyC3lZ5WFMk

I'm also wondering if it would make sense to enclose the habanero setups in a case/computer case instead of leaving them out in the open on the rig stations.  It seems to me that in an enclosed environment the air circulation can be controlled better with such a setup as taking any case, ripping off the front plate, covering the front full of intake fans and the upper back or the full back as well as the top with exhaust fans, the habanero setup can be mounted on long legs(so that there would be lots of space for airflow on both sides of habanero) to the case screw holes where the motherboard would go and  on the side door one could cut out a hole to mount the radiator, but just a thought, maybe it is not even worth going through all this trouble if there is not going to be a big difference in cooling or maybe in a full tower one can mount 2 setups of the habanero which would make things neater I guess.
2  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Habanero - 650GH/s - Batch 2 Shipping June 9th, $850 ($1.3/GH/s) on: June 07, 2014, 04:59:33 AM
Hey guys, I too snoozed on the 2nd batch, I wanted to get 6 boards, but after plugging the numbers in to the bitcoinwisdom.com calculator I just couldn't get anywhere, all the time coming out in a loss, unless I upped the bitcoin price, but that is not the case at this point, if the price stays at $6xx then I will never even return my investment, even $700 doesn't seem like it would be enough.  How do you guys look at this, if I get 6 boards(~700 Gh/s x6)=4.2 Th/s, power .15 kWh, difficulty inc. - 20%, hardware cost - 875 x 6 = ~$5,250 + 6 PSUs(~120 x 6 = $720) + 6 Cooling systems(~120 x 6 = $720) ---  Total cost = ~$6,690.
I agree that yes it will be very fun to play around with the Habaneros while putting them together and configuring/perfecting them, but at the end of the day or week or month I want to make some money as well.  So I guess what I am not understanding is how would I be able to make my investment back and make some money with the Bitcoin miners such as "The Habanero".

Another difficulty I'm seeing is, of course most people are setting these things up at home, but at 1000 watt a board you could only have a limited amount of these boards set up in the house and even then in different locations of the house(if whoever you live with will even allow these devices in their spaces of the house or a mess of very long power cables running all over the house to the rig station) so that each board uses 1 circuit, so at around 9 boards my circuit breaker wouldn't be able to handle any more. 
How are you guys coping with these electrical limits?
What still keeps you in the Bitcoin mining game with the increasing difficulty?
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: IN STOCK - 750GH/s for $849 - VMC Fast Hash One Gold Rush 0.83w/gh on: June 04, 2014, 05:07:09 PM
Just got a call back from VMC's representative letting me know that messages within put in orders will be reviewed and in my case they will send me bitcoin transfer info.
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