Because he said PUBLICLY without solid evidence that this game is a scam and that I share scam with no real proof! Why didn't he send me a message before making these false accusations PUBLICLY without solid evidence? It's shameful to say that, I have a lot of respect for Mr. YOSHIE, I know he is a serious member here and a good person but I have to defend myself PUBLICLY with solid evidence against these false accusations. Saying such words is a serious attack on my honor (it’s very serious here in Japan to accuse someone without real proof), I’m saddened and shocked to read that he say that I’m a scammer when it is not true!!

He is the only one who had a bad experience here with connection problems with this new international version because he is outside of Japan and directly he dares to PUBLICLY say that this game is a scam, that I am a scammer without solid evidence... it is unacceptable to say that. I’m disappointed and very offended.

As no one here has created an account and played at this game, I will prove to you once again that the game is not a scam: I created a new account on the game and I used only free offered satoshi and I played strategically about ten matchs to try to reach the minimum amount of bitcoin cash (546 SATOSHI) to make a withdrawal request on my real bitcoin cash wallet.

As you can here, it’s my new account. I played about ten matches (exactly 13 games) and I won 599 SATOSHI in total (with victories and defeats).





Now, I ask for a withdraw to my real bitcoin cash wallet. I created a new to be sure because I would like to be like a new member.









And as you can see, some time later, I received my 599 SATOSHI to my real bitcoin cash wallet!!!!





You can see by yourself the transaction here on the official bitcoin cash blockchain network. Here is the transaction : https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4176ce48285ca4b81ddcff0bb6c592e0921598a694d71508e8fe54b5373f7e34





And here is the email that the game sends after each withdraw request



So now, where is the scam with this free bitcoin game ? It's the same regardless of the amount in bitcoin cash.

In conclusion, I didn't pay any bitcoin (because it's a free game!), I played only with free offered satoshi and won 599 SATOSHI in total of bitcoin cash and I withdrew it into my bitcoin cash wallet. I received it and you have the proof on the official bitcoin cash blockchain network that I received these 599 satoshi. I have made many withdrawals and I have received them all. It's the same for all of my friends who play at this game here in Japan. They make withdrawals with much larger amounts such as 5,000 yen ¥ = $50 or 10,000 yen ¥ = $100 without any problems!

Now with this solid evidence, please explain to me where the scam is with this game? Is this game a scam? NO! You have to pay NOTHING to play at this game, it’s a free bitcoin game and you can withdraw you wins to your real bitcoin cash wallet. I'm going to be crazy, in what language should I say it? Maybe in Japanese ? lol このゲームのどこに詐欺があるのか

I'm sorry for my anger, I can't let people accuse me so easily (and without solid evidence) of sharing scams without defending myself. I was publicly humiliated. I have all the evidence here that this game isn’t a scam. I’m a nice person but accusing me of sharing scams is too much for me. I’m very angry because I can't accept this!

This game hardly does any advertising here in Japan, it doesn't need it, it's the people who talk about it because it's fun. Except the advertisement in a local TV, I was surprised about that and I would be surprised if they advertise internationally. There is no real communication or marketing.
As soon as I saw that this game had launched a new international version (in several languages) at the beginning of December and accessible outside Japan, I wanted to share it here. I don't know if it's the final international version or if they are still launching but considering the connection problems of Mr. YOSHIE, I think they are still in development...Maybe I should have waited before publishing the game here... There has been no communication from them, the company that manages the game is discreet. They do not advertise or make bonus offers. This game is totally different, it's something new (or strange) but what's makes it successful here. Will it have the same success internationally? I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no ^^ I also see recently on the game that I play against new French and American players.

I talked to all of my friends (who play at this game) about YOSHIE’s experience and none of them say that this game is a scam. They laughed at me, this game has been serious (since its launch) for almost 1.5 years between students here in Japan and they still pay their withdrawals each time. That’s not a scam, they showed me they withdraw and their bitcoin cash wallet and they receive all of them. I also made an other withdraw of 1 558.3¥ and I receive it on my bitcoin cash wallet, you can see it here :



















Considering what I read above, what happened to YOSHIE is obviously a mistake on their part with the launch of their new international version in the beginning of December, it seems that they had problems with the banning of IP addresses outside Japan, it can happen and the problem was solved and his account has been unlocked. This is proof that the company that manages the game is keeping track of what is going on.

The first versions of the game were blocked internationally by IP except in Japan and YOSHIE is obviously not from Japan, that's maybe the problem he had at the beginning with the game. As I said, it's a new international version that has just been launched in early December 2021, they probably had problems with the players outside Japan but it's fixed now.



You didn’t answer to my previous questions. Have you sent money on this game ? How much exactly did you win ? Have you contacted the game support about your connection problems ? You said that you blocked the game yourself and never back on it again… Sorry my friend, I know that you are considered as a serious person here in this forum but I can't let you say that this game is a scam or I share scam when it isn't, you need to show to us solid proof. The game has an excellent reputation here in Japan between students since his beginning (July/August 2020), it’s not a scam, it’s impossible! The game is free! Where is the scam if you don't pay anything ?

And even the money you can send must not exceed ¥500 = $5. Sending money is a new feature on this new international version due to players' demand, it didn't exist before. Basically, this game is free, you don't have to do a deposit to play. Once again, where is the scam?

To detect a scam, it's simple : when you sent money on a site, this disappear or bans your account without any good reason, you try to contact them after a problem but they don’t response to you or they don't pay you back which is not the case here. The game support contacted you, acknowledged their problem, follows what is going on and unblocked your account and they compensated you with 5$ to apologize. Unfortunately, you blocked the game yourself because you didn't like your first experience with it, Ok I understand that, it's your right but don't say that this game is a scam or that I share scams when it's not true. You can said that the game is bad, you don't like it but you don't have the right to say that it's a scam when it's totally false. As a Japanese, my honor is violated by such words because I am the one who shared the game here. Sorry but it's not honest from you, I can't let you publicly tell lies about me so easily when it's not true. I have all the evidence here that this game is not a scam and that it pays well via bitcoin cash.

Is there anyone here who has been really scammed by this game?
Has anyone here made a deposit on this game, get been banned for no good reason? and it hasn't been refunded ? or the game support does not respond?

That's the big problem on internet, there are plenty of people who have played at this game, have received their bitcoin cash without any problems so they don't say it but if one person has a small connection problem like YOSHEE’s case since it is outside Japan (and in addition he blocks himself the game) and said that is a scam with no real proof, everyone will say it's a scam, that he was scammed (and we don’t know if he has done a deposit) and was banned without any reason, the support of the game does not answer (whereas he didn't contact them),...all this is wrong and no one here will play when it's a free game. I don't understand why you said it's scam because you don’t have to deposit any money on this game to play, it’s a free game, you play with free satoshi. Tell me how can this game be a scam since it is a free game where you don't have to do a deposit to play???

You will see with time that this game is not a scam, it is only at its international launch...when it will be known internationally like here in Japan, no one will dare to say that this game is a scam

I address myself to all the other readers who read this topic and want to play and know if this game is a scam or not :
I think that the better solution to proof that this game isn't a scam is to try by yourself : register to this game, don’t sent any bitcoin on it, only play with free satoshi offered and when you have the minimum to sent to your wallet (546 SATOSHI) , then ask for a withdraw to your real bitcoin cash wallet and you’ll see if this game is a scam or not. If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the game support who is there for that.

I shared this game because I'm a simple player who liked it, it's fun, free and it's a hit here in Japan! That's why they are launching an international version. Everyone is playing it here without any problems. This game is a pride for Japanese people like me and when I saw that they were launching this international version in early December, I thought why not share it on this international bitcoin forum. I will never share a scam and I have never asked to pay for the game or to get any bonuses. Besides, this game does not offer any bonuses and it is not a gambling or a game of chance or an online casino game or a sports betting site or a lottery because there is no chance possible, you play online against others real players. There is no money to send (or anything else) to play and this is why this game is totally different and what makes its success here in Japan.


This game isn’t a gambling game, it's an online multiplayer strategy game with bitcoin and it has already received very good certifications from the authorities here in Japan to be launched. If this game were a gambling or a scam, it would already be banned here in Japan for almost 1.5 years because gambling or scam are strictly prohibited. Japanese authorities don't mess around with online gambling or scam. Here, there is even a commercial that aired on local TV for this game not long ago!

This is the first time I have seen this with this game. Here, we don’t see this game as a scam or it would have been banned a long time ago. The bitcoin you played is usually offered and small. Maybe it’s the launch of their new version with some bugs… I don’t know exactly. Is your account banned again? How much deposit did you pay and how much did you win/lost? Did you contact the game support for this ? it would be really surprising if this game is a scam given the very good reputation it has here in Japan for almost a year and a half. I have done a lot of withdraw to my real bitcoin cash wallet since one year and I have too done some deposit on it and I never had problem.


As I said, this game has a good reputation here between students and it would be very bad that it’s a scam since the money played is generally offered. Usually the scams are with big money and in addition, the possibility to make deposits is a new feature that did not exist in the old version. I’ve been playing it for almost 1 year and I’ve never had a problem. Has anyone here deposited money on the game and has been scamed ?

The demo version is a waste of time, you play against fake adversaries and displacements are random. No body play demo version. It’s really a pity that because of the bad experience of one user, everybody thinks it’s a scam and nobody plays it. You don’t have to deposit any bitcoin to play, just play with the offered Satoshi and transfer your winnings to your wallet

I’m very shocked to hear this. I’m not promoting any scam, it’s just a fun game that we play here in Japan between students, I have been playing this game for almost a year now (principally on the old version), I have always received my withdraw and no student here has complained that it is a scam. I know a lot of students who got their bitcoin won on their wallet like I did with no problem. Also, there is a contact support but I don’t understand, is there anyone here who has been scammed? I understand that my first post was very bad and not professional (I’m not an advertising promoter for this game, I’m just a simple player) and I never said to do a deposit, just only play with offered bitcoin cash. This game is fun

I would like to know if anyone here has made a deposit on this game (or made a withdrawal request) and has been banned or scammed? and especially for @YOSHIE, how much did you lost ? how did it go? Can you explain with details & proof, I will talk to some friends (who play at this game) tomorrow about your experience, for sure. Thank you



Thank you my friend. I'm trying to understand what happened to @YOSHIE, it’s why I would like to know more about his experience and I’ll talk to friends tomorrow about YOSHIE’s experience. I’m very surprised as I’m a regular player of this game. I never had any problems, they are very serious.

The demo version is a waste of time, I don’t know why the game has add this demo version, it was not there in the old version. I have the impression that in any game/program, every time there is an update, it is naked lol   The good thing about this game is that it’s a online multiplayer game. There is no hazard or random displacement.


It’s what I did, I’m waiting the response of @YOSHIE about his experience.
For the problem, the best thing to do is to contact the help/support of the game. I’m just a simple player who love this game

皆さん、こんにちは

Thank you all my friends for your responses and nice to meet you too, and sorry for my late answer, I wasn’t at home this weekend and I had a hard Monday ^^

I know that this game is difficult to understand in the beginning for non Japanese people, with no tutorials, no help, … nothing and I would like to apologize to you for my first post, it was very short, not clear at all and very bad. Honestly, I didn’t expect any answers ^^

Explanations

This bitcoin game is relatively new (< 1,5 year) and not known but it has some little local success here (between students) principally in Japan in the cities where I live (Yokohama 横浜 / Tokyo 東京). The first version was hidden and only available for Japanese’s students with specific access and there aren’t any official tutorials (or FAQ) that explain how to play, it’s only by word of mouth that we learn to play so I’ll try to do my best to explain to you how to play and what I learned.

Game’s explanations
In this game, each match is played with Bitcoin Cash and the goal’s game consists of predefining a movement of your principal character on an obstacle map with blocks. It’s look like a old game ^^





If you are a bitcoin eater, your goal will be to catch as many bitcoin coins as possible with your chosen move. Each time you pick up a coin, you earn a small percentage of this coin. This percentage depends on the map and the number of adversaries.

If you are a Bitcoin coin, your goal will be to avoid being picked up by the coin eater with your previously chosen move. Each time another coin (not you but your fellow players) is eaten by the coin eater, you will earn a large percentage of bitcoin cash from the picked up coin.

Then you can transfer the Bitcoin Cash you’ve won to your Bitcoin Cash wallet.

Game’s explanations to start a training match (or demo match available in the home page) : it’s a match against fakes adversaries with random displacements, the bitcoin cash played is fictitious

You need to choose your character :  coin (left) or coin eater (right)



Once you have chosen your character type, you need to select the map you want to play on, your deposit, and the number of opponents (number of coins to catch).



Then comes the most important thing: the choice of your character’s movement



Of course, you don’t know what moves your opponents will choose… otherwise it’s too easy. There are many move strategies depending on the type of character, the type of map as well as the number of opponents to increase the probability of winning the game! You have to think carefully and set up movement tactics…

Note: for the training match, bitcoin cash are not real, adversaries are fake and displacements are random. Don’t waste your time to play training match, no body play these match. I don’t know why there is a demo match because it’s random and not useful, honestly it’s a waste of time.

Game’s explanations to start a real match (with real bitcoin cash) against real adversaries: It’s the same steps like start a training match but you have to wait until real adversaries join your match.

To start a real match, you have to go to your account, click on “play” button and click to “New Match” button



After that, you have to choose your map, your deposit and the adversaries number. There are 21 maps available. Each map has specifics parameters like the number of adversaries authorized, distribution of earnings, …







For example, I’ll start a real match against 4 adversaries on the map Tokyo 東京 with a start deposit of 10 902 SATOSHI = 0.00010902 BCH ≈  5.63¥

There is a resume of your potential gains on the right screen. If I catch :

1 coin, I’ll win 0 SATOSHI (draw or tie match)
2 coin, I’ll win 0 SATOSHI (draw or tie match)
3 coin, I’ll win +1.64¥ for a total of 1.64¥ won
4 coin, I’ll win +4.77¥ for a total of 6.42¥ won
5 coin, I’ll win +42.93¥ for a total of 49.35¥ won

In resume : if I catch all the coins, it’s a strike and I’ll win 49.35¥. Of course, you can withdraw these BCH won to your real wallet.

If you click on the button on the right “show profits of each coins”, you’ll see the resume of the potential gains of the coin

If the eater coin (me in this match) catch :
1 coin, the remaining 4 coins will earn +2.47¥ for a total of 2.47¥ earned
2 coin, the remaining 3 coins will earn +4.11¥ for a total of 6.58¥ won
3 coin, the remaining 2 coins will earn +7.4¥ for a total of 13.98¥ won
4 coin, the remaining last coin will earn +19.08¥ for a total of 33.06¥ won

If the last coin is caught, he loose his profit and the eater coin does a strike and win all deposit of all players (49.35¥). The initial deposit of each coin is 9.87¥ (more than the deposit of the eater coin)

In the next step, you have to choose strategically your displacement. When other adversaries join your map, they will choose too a displacement for their character’s. Of course, you can’t know the displacements of other adversaries. Nobody knows the movements of other players except his own







This match is now online, so you have to wait until real adversaries (others players) join your match. If you click on your match, you can see details about it like who play against you,…you can see the progress of your match.

The waiting time depend how many players are online, how many started match are online,…





When your match is finished, you will receive a notification (by email, you can deactivate this option on your parameter’s account) and you can see your match.



As you can see at this match, I caught 2 coin so I win 0¥, it’s a draw match for me



The remaining 3 coins each earn ¥6.58

Game’s explanations to join a real match with real bitcoin cash against real adversaries:

To join a match, you have to go on your account, click on “play” button and click to “rejoin match” button. After that, you can choice a randomly online started match to join. If no match is found, it’s seems that no one has started a match so you have to start a match or wait for someone to start a match.

Each started match has a deposit to join it fixed by the coin eater when he started the match.





You can see who has join the match, where are all free and locked positions. A free position is an available position for you and a locked position it’s a position that is played by a player right now (< 15min)





You can see you gains on the right screen.

For example, in this started match, the deposit to join it is fixed to 0.2¥
If the eater coin catch :
1 coin, I’ll win +0.03¥ for a total of 0.03¥ won
2 coin, I’ll win +0.21¥ for a total of 0.24¥ won

You can choose a free place to lock it. When your place is locked, you have 15min to choose your displacement. When a place is locked, no one can use this place for a delay of 15 min. After this delay without choosing a displacement, your position will be unlocked and available for other players.





After your confirmation, you must wait until others players join the match and you can see details of this match



When your match is finished, you receive a notification and you can see your match









As you can see, the eater coin was very smart with his move and he caught me and an other coin so I loose this match and my initial deposit of 0.2¥

Here is all the strategy of this game, there’s no hazard or randomly displacements with real match, the smartest guys will win most of the time and others will lost.

There are many strategies to increase the probability of wining depending on the map, the number of adversaries, …

Note : every 12 hours, if you bitcoin cash’s wallet is < 2.7¥ = 50 SATOSHI, you can get 50 SATOSHI to play. You don’t need to deposit or paid any bitcoin cash to play real match.

I advise you to don’t put a deposit on it, just play with offered satoshi and withdraw your gains to your real BCH wallet

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I will try to answer each of you ^^

I understand that it is very difficult to play this game without any tutorial. As I already said, there isn’t any tutorial even in Japanese, no official explanations or FAQ. I don’t know why. Here we explain the game by word of mouth ^^ or every one learn how to play by himself with no help. Students called this game : オタクゲーム (geek game) ^^

A good tip: if you are starting a match, choose the maximum movement time to save time before the coins have finished moving so you can catch them more easily at the end of your movement. If you’re a coin, go directly to the coin eater or always stay in the same place.

Have you try to play with your phone ?

I don’t know exactly why the game is only in BCH. I used to play only with satoshi offered but I advise you to don’t send any deposit, play only with free yen/satoshi offered and withdraw what you win

Thank you and yes, this game is 100% made in Japan ^^ Me too, I love multiplayer games for the same reasons.

The game has now translations. The old version was only in japanese

Exactly, each move must be calculated to increase his probability to win, it’s not a hazard game like most gambling. I don’t know if we can call this game a “gambling” or a “casino game”, it’s very different because there isn’t any hazard or FIAT currencies, it’s only with real bitcoin cash offered.

Yes, you’re right, as I already said, this game is new (< 1,5years). The first version was only available here in Japan for students of universities (with special access) and internationally/locally blocked but I don’t know exactly why, how & when. Maybe, in the beginning, it was an “hidden game” reserved for students and now this game wants to become international. This new version is very recent but I don’t have more information.

No, I just shared this fun game with you, I’m a simple player. A friend from my university showed me this game +-one year ago, how to have access and how to play. The old version was not open to every one like now with these little “help explanations” in all languages (and others news features). What we said to me about the game : it was made by a team of former gifted students : they are full stack engineers, they made a lot of money with their blockchain projects and they also have a lot of money because they invested in bitcoin/altcoins at the beginning (some of them are very big bitcoin/altcoin whales with tens of millions of dollars.) and now they have left Japan to offshore countries but I have no more information about them or their team / company. Here in Japan, nobody talk a lot, everyone is discreet ^^


You’re right, we must be very careful with gambling like this. Maybe you have done a mistake, I don’t know, I can’t help you but you can contact them or create a new account. However, I advise you to don’t push any deposit on this game and only play with offered yen ¥ . In my university, this game is played generally between students in lunch time (or inter-cours) for fun with a very small deposit and without putting any bitcoin cash or money on it. I have +- 1 000¥ sometime up to +-5 000¥  max in my wallet if I play and win a lot, not more because the deposit for started match are limited to max +-5¥. I know students who deposit money on it but it’s very small, you can’t deposit more that 500¥ =+-5$. The ability to make deposits is a new feature that did not exist in the first old version. You must wait to get offered yen. Here, this game is really used to play with little money for fun with friends and not to earn big money like casino gambling. Sometime, I withdraw my small profits to my BCH wallet to bought some cheap stuffs/food with them (with my bitcoin visa card) ^^

I hope I have answered your questions well and I'll respond to other tomorrow night, I'm so tired, it's very late here  ^^

ビットコインゲーム - ムノカミ - メイド・イン・ジャパン 🇯🇵

Munokami.com is an online multiplayer strategic movement game made in Japan where the goal is to predefine a movement of your character on an obstacle map to catch Bitcoin Cash coins equivalent to fractions of this crypto currency. This game is played online on different maps and against other opponents.

https://munokami.com