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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 18, 2014, 06:39:32 PM
1.3k here :/

Shares would have matured 4 days after the they had "technical difficulties"
2  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Bitcoin-Trader - Passives Nebeneinkommen / Arbitrage 1-3% Gewinn on: October 15, 2014, 07:28:05 AM
Dann bleibt nur noch eins: Top-10 Liste der Verlierer!

Xer0: ~450$

(2x ~75$ ausgezahlt, 3te nie bekommen)

Laut der inoffiziellen facebook Gruppe belaufen sich die bekannten Verluste bis jetzt auf 450k+ $, es wird von bis zu 2 Mio $ ausgegangen.

@ Threadstarter: Dir ist klar, dass du aktiv für eine kriminelle Vereinigung mit möglicher Geldwäsche geworben und dafür belangt werden kannst.
3  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: October 14, 2014, 11:17:48 AM
I sell my account with 1 share and $0.79 on it ($20.79). Bought the share on October the 2nd (10 days ago). Selling all for 0.04BTC ($15)
PM me



I pay you in 15 punches, where ever you want them ...

Don't sell your dirt to other people !
4  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Bitcoin-Trader - Passives Nebeneinkommen / Arbitrage 1-3% Gewinn on: September 04, 2014, 03:27:49 PM
ist das jetzt gut oder schlecht?

Kommt drauf an ...

Wenn sie wirklich eine normale, legale Dienstleistung anbieten, ist es natürlich super.

Falls es doch ein Ponzi ist, steigt die Gefahr, dass sie mit dem Geld abhauen, enorm.


5  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Bitcoin-Trader - Passives Nebeneinkommen / Arbitrage 1-3% Gewinn on: August 28, 2014, 03:29:44 PM
Damit auch alle etwaigen Investoren auf dem laufenden bleiben:
Die Veröffentlichung der Untersuchungsergebnisse wurde wieder um ca 1 Woche verschoben:

Quote from: facebook
Due to some unforeseen technicalities the non-trading day for the Audit will be moved from Friday to Tuesday (2 September 2014) or Wednesday (3 September 2014). The results should be available to us within a week thereafter.
6  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Bitcoin-Trader - Passives Nebeneinkommen / Arbitrage 1-3% Gewinn on: August 23, 2014, 11:55:12 AM
Werde nun meinen Anteil wieder reinvestieren - bin mehr als zufrieden mit Bitcoin-Trader Smiley  
...bis das licht ausgeht und es dunkel wird...

Wie wahr ...
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
Nah... they're gonna argue..... how do you know 1+1 = 2!

1+1 = 2 is a non provable mathematical axiom. You just accept it as rule to be able to work with it.
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2014, 12:05:38 PM
Buy now or wait for it to go even lower ? In Germany, the price doesn't match the USD/BTC level (386 € * 1.34 = 517 $) and is quite higher. Will the downtrend continue or is this the bottom ? Another trap ?
9  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2014, 10:23:15 AM
Adam, how about a poll like:

Above $500

or

Below $500

at the end of the day?

I hope below 500$, because then I'm gonna buy more Smiley
10  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [Unmoderated] Bit-Investors.com Independent Discussion - ►NO LONGER PAYING on: July 31, 2014, 12:43:46 PM
So in order to get our money back we send more money somewhere else ?

3 BTC is a lot. Did silvercane actually scam that much ?
11  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [Unmoderated] Bit-Investors.com Independent Discussion - ►NO LONGER PAYING on: July 29, 2014, 10:56:16 AM
Well damn, I thought I would be fast & smart enough and invested 0.233 BTC in the 14 day plan. 8 days is damn short, but it seems he made quite an amount in that time.
Is there some way of help to get the money back (like it happened with btc-arbs) ?
12  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 23, 2014, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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zwickl delete post. check payment refund to member first round.

Quote from: zwickl
What the f**k ?

The first time didn't work so you just create a new topic with the same ponzi, same bad english, same empty lies like before ? I wonder when the super interested member comes around, with the exact same spelling mistakes you make. Will it be David or someone new out of your magic box of self written selling strategies ?

----> Old tread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695577.0

If anybody would fall for this:
SCAM !!!
13  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 21, 2014, 07:38:41 AM
I couldn't resist Smiley

14  Other / Off-topic / Re: ►►►BtcInv - BtcInv.club - Bitcoin Investment - Multiple Plan- Min: 0.01 on: July 21, 2014, 06:47:02 AM
Do you actually think someone will fall for this or do you just enjoy writing yourself ? Cheesy
15  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 21, 2014, 06:38:03 AM
its not scam, its very real, we still pay the daily promo profit
too many hater here
williamj2543 you lost any cent in bitcoin-h? for sure NOT ! than why you talk shit?

Please just stop. You ask me for evidence ? I asked you several questions yesterday and NONE of them were answered in a reasonable way backed up by facts. Members on this forum analyzed your sites' code and found very disturbing and untrustworthy facts like stealing private keys, using the same layout & code like a previous scam site (btc-banker). In one post you even admitted to be at least related to that site.


These are hard facts you neither counter nor discuss in a normal fashion. All you do is insist on promises lies like:

"I give you free money"       "No I won't stop paying"       "Your money is safe"       "You can withdraw anytime"      
"I'm a trustworthy person with minor english skills but represent a legal firm I have no evidence of its existence"

I can look into the future Smiley
zwickl - nobody scam here and learn something, only scammer call all time scam , so probable YOU are a scammer
you lost any cent in bitcoin-h ? for sure not   another member lost any cent in bitcoin-h? for sure NOT
so why you talk like so, without any evidence?
In the end, you always blaspheme everyone who has just a little doubt in a very unprofessional and coarse way. As you got caught, at least take the honorable way out and stop pointing fingers and empty accusations at your prosecutors.


If anybody still didn't get this:
SCAM !!!
16  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 20, 2014, 11:50:49 PM
I guess I don't have to visit the company anymore with the stated evidence.

Still I will write them an email, as you mentioned them. I think, they (or their lawyers) will find this information including your "investment" site and the "collaboration" with this company very interesting.

Whoever you are bitcoin-h, please be so kind and just delete yourself Smiley

I nearly forgot to add this, but it's pretty useful for newbies just browsing through the gambling section:
SCAM !!!
17  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 20, 2014, 12:18:30 PM
yes, you have right, i am a new member but all members from here, the trusted members too, by start was new members.
Sure everybody starts as a newbie, but it's a bit suspicious to start offering an investment right away.
the profit payment is a bonus from our company and will be paid limited time - many other company for example pay high costly tv promos, etc -we pay our members a decent daily profit. in futhure we will start other services too - we dont need your money, we need your trust, your satisfaction.
My father always told me: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably ain't true.
No company just gives aways money, especially not in anonymous ways with no real advertisement what so ever.

yes, we are a legit germany registred company MPv Management GmbH from Muenchen, you can search on iternet about us, but we activate in Liectenstein, due more favorable tax.
Well nice, I'll ask them on monday as I happen to live in Munich. Still their website states they are a "cleantech venture capital specialist". I don't see the resemblance between their strategy and e-currency.
(Source: http://www.munichvp.com/en/strategy/ )

it's not pozni .. because we dont collect our members money in a central wallet /account
the money is NOT locked, you can ALL time send it to other, like external bitcoin address
each member store how much btc will in one of his bitcoin-h deterministic generated address and for that money he will recive a decent daily profit
You always insist on this ONE "fact" we would be in control of the wallet, still YOU hold the private key. So whenever you are pleased you can stop any withdrawals. In my opinion, that is NOT BEING IN CONTROL.

Still no usable response to my questions, so I'm going for:
SCAM !!!
18  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 90% - 300% /month! on: July 20, 2014, 11:49:13 AM
dont talk shit, without any evidence - it's not pozi, as i said the money is only under YOUR control, its not collected in central account, is not locked, etc - you can send it any time to other bitcoin address

You, a new member without any history which would provide security or trust, try to sell a HYIP with impossible revenue. You claim to be professional but curse at people asking the normal questions that come to mind ? You even lie about it, the money is under the control whoever has the private key.

How do you earn this profit ?
Why do you need our money if you claim not to have any control over it ?
Why don't you provide some evidence: company or revenue wise ?
If you are a legal registered company in Liechtenstein, please show us some verification.
Show evidence of those "3327" people who deposited "1315.3850961538" BTC.


Before those questions are not answered I'd just state my opinion here:
SCAM !!!
19  Other / Off-topic / Re: ►►►BtcInv - BtcInv.club - Bitcoin Investment - Multiple Plan- Min: 0.01 on: July 19, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
This so obviously looks like a scam with one user and two accounts ... obviously in Truecolors and Dolby Surround.
20  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: July 14, 2014, 01:41:33 PM
So what you guys are saying that this "company" is now un-safe because they did not produce papers/documents than b4 when they had nothing to prove but their word? well good luck then Cheesy

well i think the following statements are not equivalent

1) they do not want to produce documents
2) they have not produced documents
3) they have not produced documents but claim they are willing to do it at some point
4) they have not produced documents, claim they are willing to produce them at some point but eventually changed their mind about it.

so each one can cause various degrees of (un)certainty regarding the trust they should receive. I thought they were in category 3 but seem to have switched to 4, correct ? Even 1 i think is better than 4

That's correct. They've been pushing back producing documents for months now (if you swim through this whole thread you'll see what I mean). They've never missed payments, and they've always had some reason for not having the documents on hand. This was the first time they've outright said "yeah, we lied about that." It's a pretty significant change. The writing was on the wall already, but this is the first time they've outright admitted that they won't be producing them. There's a small rebellion going on now among their customers.

A bunch of folks have been working with the Panama business registration office and believe they may have ID'd the business and it's registrants.

In the official Facebook group they found the once stated address to be a casino. Some documents from the past have been checked and now they try to contact the "companies" representatives stated on these documents.
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