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1  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: April 20, 2022, 07:40:12 AM
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Where did you conclude that once SHA256 is broken, we'll upgrade to SHA384? If SHA256 becomes broken, which is a doomsday scenario, we shouldn't use neither SHA384 nor SHA512 as they all belong to SHA-2.

This is a very common misconception that people do when talking about the security threat of quantum computers to btc & co. The main issue is not about the encryption algorithm, but instead of signature algorithm as it was mentionned in the link.

If a paper says the threat is non existent or is centuries away, feel free to believe them. But ask the authors how much money they will bet on their timeline and I am happy to bet against them
2  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: April 20, 2022, 03:34:00 AM
Some educative information from QRL THE QUANTUM RESISTANT LEDGER. Follow the links:

It's going to affect Bitcoin

Bitcoin's developers have already planned for this

Bitcoin will just hard/softfork

If they can break SHA_256, we’ll upgrade to SHA_384

But if you don’t reuse addresses, you’re safe because BTC only exposes the hash of your public key if you have never transferred BTC from that address

Quantum computing is a long ways away, there's no need to bother

If ECDSA will be broken, banks and the whole internet is broken. Blockchain is the least we’ll need to worry about then.

More info here.


3  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: April 19, 2022, 02:44:53 AM
Good luck. First, try to find 120-bit private key from transaction puzzle (or 64-bit private key with unknown public key and known address). There are many challenges that are far easier than regular 256-bit keys, and you will quickly see, how far we are from quantum computers if you try to break any of them.

yeah sure, we are 100 billions years away from quantum computers ... no worry Roll Eyes
and by the way, thanks to Taproot, little effort is required to know address public key, but I guess you did not pay any attention to that 'detail'!

So rather good luck to you, you will need it much more than I do ...
And feel FREE to keep betting against science and technology progress. You will indeniably end up on the WRONG side of history
4  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: April 18, 2022, 11:56:36 AM
Latest Quantum Computer available commercially - D-Wave Quantum Computer
Costs: $15,000 (That too un-configured for Bitcoin Mining, coding will cost additional man's salary)

Quantum Computer Operation: Well you will probably need a room or at least superconductors which would be cooling down your 2000Qubic chip down to the -273 degree celsium.

If you have money then it's fine, buying computer worth $15 million wont be big deal for you. The question is would you be able to maintain the temperature below zero degrees all the time? Imagine the power consumption required to do that one.

Forget about break even point, you wont be able to recover the yearly power consumption out of the bitcoin mining.

If you start to inject the market with heavy supplies of bitcoin, assuming you are mining 1000x others, then ideally the supply will easily fill up the demand and might reduce in the pricing.

For example, Supercomputer in China, named Tianhe-2 use 18 megawatts of electricity.

In conclusion even if we use it, it wont be beneficial at all.

why waste time mining BTC when you can do much better with a quantum computer?

that's a very poor use case ... Instead, I will aim to hack all big wallets, starting with Satoshi wallet (980, 000 BTC) and other big wallets, then start dumping them asap ...
5  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: April 14, 2022, 05:41:47 AM
what do you think of the token $QANX ? QANPLATAFORM

they said to have a solution for this.

thanks!

you also have some mineable new blockchain based on NIST round 3 quantum resistant signature algorithms:
-Doge protocol https://dogeprotocol.org/
-Tidecoin https://tidecoin.org/
-Arielcoin https://arielcoin.org/

And QRL based on quantum resistant algorithm called XMSS:
https://www.theqrl.org/

start mining & accumulating till the day (soon in the future, maybe by 2025...) when quantum threat wipes out 99.99% of crypto market caps (BTC, ETH, etc)
6  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: April 14, 2022, 05:09:51 AM
what do you think of the token $QANX ? QANPLATAFORM

they said to have a solution for this.

thanks!

If it's token, then they're lying since token only use existing cryptocurrency protocol/network.

It's NOT a token project. It's a brand new blockchain. True that it's being supported by a token right now. But according to their roadmap, token holders will swap their tokens for native coins on the new L1 quantum resistant Qanplatform blockchain.
7  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: April 10, 2022, 11:53:39 AM
I don't think it can. At least, in the upcoming few years, I think Quantum computers are still too expensive for someone to try such thing. I remember to watch a video quite some time ago and the video was explaining how hard it is to keep the computer running smoothly, how much energy it would spend and how would it cost, like per day, or something like that. The numbers were alarmingly high and the technology needed to keep the computer running was also large.

A part from that, I think there are already people working on Quantum resistant algorithms for when that time comes!

it would clearly be a profitable operation to run a qc, hacking few 1000s of btc/eth, then silently dump them to the sheep saying "quantum threat is decades away blablablabla". you won't see it coming even if you know that it's coming. And at first, it's clear that no individual or small organization will have access to such infrastructure, but some state sponsored actors or  big tech corps (Google, IBM, Microsoft, etc) would
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ARWN] Arowanacoin - A Post-Quantum Security CPU coin with Falcon on: March 30, 2022, 05:26:21 PM
is this coin alive?
how to do local solo mining? i  rceive a connection refused error to http:127.0.0.1: ...
9  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: March 27, 2022, 06:25:17 AM
*** Q-DOOMSDAY IS ARRIVING FAST ***

1M qubit quantum chip by 2024. All these fallacies "we are decades away" should be put to rest very soon enough

Wafer Scale Quantum Chip Prototype Delivers 1M Qubits by 2024
By Francisco Pires published about 13 hours ago

It is a quantum renaissance for fabrication industries from a 2-qubit computer in 1998 to 1 million by 2024.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/wafer-scale-quantum-chip-prototype-delivers-1m-qubits-by-2024

There are already good already out there who are tackle this issue. Make your choice. In the brave new world of post quantum, old unsafe blockchains/coins are garbage:

-Tidecoin (TDC)
-Arielcoin
-QRL
-QANX
etc
10  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Quantum Computer's destroy Blockchain and Bitcoins[SHA-256 specifically] on: March 24, 2022, 02:09:29 AM
you really have to love the amount of wishful thinking regarding quantum computer and its threats to btc & al.
the attitude I read here is like knowing a tsunami alert was raised, the ocean is retreating and still beachgoers are standing watching and want to see the first big wave before running for their lives  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

to each his own exit strategy ...
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Time to mine quantum resistant cryptocurrency--Tidcoin(CPU) on: February 24, 2022, 04:15:32 AM
IOTA is not quantum resistant at all
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