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1  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase Learn And Earn on: July 25, 2022, 10:22:57 AM
So you wanna say, that PCS and Uniswap are fake DEXes? So what is the normal DEX in your opinion?
Yes, a real DEX never hold any money or coins on a centralized pool/hot wallet, if those DEX do that, then it's a fake DEX. Since real DEX doesn't hold any money or coins, any hack on the sites wouldn't suffer any losses to any customers except the hack can gain access of the site and ask anyone to send Bitcoin in scammer address or asking a private key. Take a look with this case [1] [2] [3] as you can see those self pro claimed DEX got hacked and suffer big losses.

Currently the real DEX until now is BISQ [4] they didn't hold any coins or money from customers account and you can use Tor network, this is what truly DEX it is.


[1] https://chaindebrief.com/uniswap-users-hacked-for-7-million/
[2] https://halborn.com/explained-the-dodo-dex-hack-march-2021/
[3] https://cryptonews.com/news/osmosis-dex-hacked-for-usd-5m-team-denies-liquidity-pools-being-completely-drained.htm
[4] https://bisq.network/

But if DEX don't hold money, where the liquidity come from?
2  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase Learn And Earn on: July 21, 2022, 10:41:05 AM
Today, these are the two largest exchanges with huge liquidity, DEX will not replace them, which means you will pass KYC anyway.
A DEX will replace them for you if you want it to. I've never so much as registered on any centralized exchange and I've certainly never completed KYC at one, yet I would bet that I buy, sell, trade, and spend bitcoin more than ~99% of the user on this forum. I certainly wouldn't be giving up all privacy for the sake of $20 worth of some shitcoins (never mind the fees I would pay to the centralized exchange just to be allowed to swap that shitcoin in to bitcoin and withdraw the bitcoin), and I'm certainly not letting Coinbase sell my data to a data broker and risk identity theft for $20 of some shitcoins.
I believe he didn't even use that DEX or instead using a fake DEX e.g. pancakeswap, uniswap, shitswap etc lol.

Actually I wonder why people really need Bitcoin ASAP, like they didn't have many times to wait even for few hours or a day, if you're trading with BTC/USD or Euro pair your orders on Bisq would be completed for few hours or a day. I think when you're want to start invest on Bitcoin, you're only use your extra money, not all of your money including your emergency money.

Personally I prefer to wait more longer to complete my transactions rather than waiting my coins will be unfrozen after I submit my KYC, the another thing is waiting to be completed KYC is long too.

So you wanna say, that PCS and Uniswap are fake DEXes? So what is the normal DEX in your opinion?

I believe he didn't even use that DEX or instead using a fake DEX e.g. pancakeswap, uniswap, shitswap etc lol.
This is something I see often. People who have never actually used a DEX talking about how there is too low volume or it is too risky to trade with other people. Meanwhile I've been using DEXs exclusively for years and have never once been scammed and never once struggled to find a trading partner (although maybe that's because I only trade in fiat/Bitcoin/Monero and not a bunch of useless shitcoins).


I have been using DEX quite successfully, not for the first year. If I am new to the forum, it does not mean that I am new to crypto. I really enjoy using DEX, but just because you haven't been scammed doesn't mean everyone is. I'm lucky, I'm pretty neat about it too. But trust me, I'm on some of the biggest launchpads, and even there people post in chat almost every day that they've been scammed in one form or another. And they lose their money.


Actually I wonder why people really need Bitcoin ASAP, like they didn't have many times to wait even for few hours or a day, if you're trading with BTC/USD or Euro pair your orders on Bisq would be completed for few hours or a day.
If you are day trading to try to make profits, then sure, a centralized exchange is probably going to be your only option. But for everyone else, there is no good reason to use a centralized exchange. As you say, you don't need bitcoin now, and a DEX will work just fine. You will spend just as long (if not longer) waiting for your fiat deposit to be credited by a centralized exchange than you will waiting for the same fiat deposit to be confirmed by a peer-to-peer trading partner.

It depends on whether you are trading or just buying, or your style in general. I wrote above that DEX will not replace CEX at this stage, not because it is somehow worse. Just in my vision, each of them is better suited for certain tasks. On CEX, it is much more convenient for me to conduct several transactions, set stop losses and takes. Especially if you trade through the terminal.


In conclusion, it seems to me that our conversation went in an inappropriate direction. I just want to briefly summarize my thoughts, if someone has a different vision on this matter - this is his right, just like mine.
1. I'm not saying that you need to pass KYC just for the sake of earning a couple of bucks on quizzes. But if you are planning or already trading on Coinbase - I think this is a pretty cool option, which ideally will give you a little knowledge about this or that project. Yes, I was corrected earlier about Coinbase is only available in 39 countries. Still, it's an interesting addition. ( NOT THE MAIN REASON FOR KYC )

2. DEX will not replace CEX. Yes, at this stage I think so. Of course, you can also swap everything on DEX.
But if you are a beginner, you need to understand the principle of operation, create different wallets (or add networks in the case of Metamask), learn how to use a bridge, have gas for transactions on different blockchains. Conciliator, if you started to figure it out yesterday, it would be harder for you than just creating an account on the stock exchange. Also you are right, for day trading CEX is the only option. But if you are a trader, not just a holder, then from time to time you have to trade intraday when it is the only option the market gives right now.

3.I think both options are good and I use both CEX and DEX. There are pros and cons everywhere. If depending on your activity, you see only DEX for yourself - cool, then this functionality is enough for you.
3  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase Learn And Earn on: July 21, 2022, 10:06:45 AM
We are talking about cryptocurrency as a world currency, and in many regions of our planet (unfortunately) even $20 is good money. And almost everyone can do it.

Not almost everyone can do it, their FAQ state only people from 39 countries are eligible for Coinbase Earn. Additionally, at least for half of those countries, $20 is small amount of money.

3. Live in one of the following eligible countries:Austria, Australia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Norway, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, the United Kingdom, or the United States.

We are working hard to add more eligible countries soon.



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Of course I understand that. But don't you pass KYC in order to trade on Coinbase or Binance? It's the same thing, after all. Today, these are the two largest exchanges with huge liquidity, DEX will not replace them, which means you will pass KYC anyway.

At very least, i won't perform KYC verification only to use Coinbase Earn. DEX these days also easy to use for trading between altcoin/token.

That's for sure, but what I mean is that if you're going to trade on Coinbase, you'll pass KYC anyway. I'm not saying that you should do it just to pass quizzes.

Of course, if you want to buy a small amount of coins, you can go to DEX, this is not a problem. But I'm not sure that many beginners will immediately go to DEX, except perhaps those to whom colleagues or friends will explain this.
A person who is new to cryptocurrency will be much more comfortable making their first purchases on a reliable exchange. Fake addresses, slippage, and additional purchase of coins for gas, depending on the blockchain. All this to an inexperienced user may seem dubious and a bit complicated at the beginning.
4  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase Learn And Earn on: July 19, 2022, 11:22:37 AM
I don't know guys, I think you are very strict on this topic. Yes, you will not earn much money there, yes, you may expose your addresses and KYC. But let's not forget that this is still made for beginners and those for whom even $20-30 is important. Study coins like GRT a bit, provide graph quiz answers, and get a couple of bucks, for someone looks good. We are talking about cryptocurrency as a world currency, and in many regions of our planet (unfortunately) even $20 is good money. And almost everyone can do it.
Yes, that's good money but in the modern world today, the KYC that you'll pass to them is that you'll never know if it will also be passed on to other companies that will market.
If you haven't noticed it yet, just you sign up to a website and then eventually, you'll receive various marketing spams that you have never reached out to them or even signed up for. Also, those identity that are passed onto them, they could be stolen and be on sale in the dark market.

Of course I understand that. But don't you pass KYC in order to trade on Coinbase or Binance? It's the same thing, after all. Today, these are the two largest exchanges with huge liquidity, DEX will not replace them, which means you will pass KYC anyway.
5  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase Learn And Earn on: July 14, 2022, 11:45:39 AM
I don't know guys, I think you are very strict on this topic. Yes, you will not earn much money there, yes, you may expose your addresses and KYC. But let's not forget that this is still made for beginners and those for whom even $20-30 is important. Study coins like GRT a bit, provide graph quiz answers, and get a couple of bucks, for someone looks good. We are talking about cryptocurrency as a world currency, and in many regions of our planet (unfortunately) even $20 is good money. And almost everyone can do it.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy some low cap coins on: July 11, 2022, 01:51:10 PM
When Bitcoin bounces, top altcoins will bounce first, not low cap altcoins.
I am totally agree with you that when Bitcoin start to bullish ,all the top altcoins start to bullish because it's directly propotional to Bitcoin.
But the best thing for low market cap coin is that it's bullish jump is more higher then top altcoin due to low resistance
So you have more possible chance to earn more
You could say the influence of Bitcoin on the top altcoins is extraordinary whether the price goes up or when it goes down,
coins like that when they go up I don't think they will last long and different from the top altcoins,
so we really have to know when is the right time to buy and sell it

I partly disagree with you. I don’t think that all the top altcoins will follow Bitcoin. It is clear that locally every coin will give some bounce, but it is unlikely to go on trend. I believe more, when alt season comes, we need to monitor which segment will go up and follow the coins of this segment, starting from the top coins, and then look at similar lowcaps.
It is called correlation. Lowcap coins have positive correlation with Eth and Eth has direct correlation with BTC dominance.
Altcoins follow path of BTC and correlation is real between all financial markets. Top coins are not exceptional here, the opportunity for us is when bear market ends it is time to shine for altcoins.

Yes, I understand what correlation is. I just want to say that when the bear market ends, not all even the top coins will reach their former ATH. For example, I don't believe in ADA. This is a very large project, a top coin, but it feels like it is slowly dying. Yes, there will be a bounce. But I do not believe that it will return even to $ 1.

As for the correlation with the stock market, if you follow the history, you can only see a periodic correlation. When the FUD is inflated on the crypt during the fall of the stocks, then of course the price correlates. But when everyone around is shouting that bitcoin is a lifeline, then even during a fall in stocks, bitcoin goes up.
7  Other / Off-topic / Re: I think google is spying on us ,when our phones are in the room on: July 10, 2022, 06:43:17 PM

Damn, I thought I was randomly popping up ads for what I want.
8  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dogs or Cats? (Highly off-topic) on: July 10, 2022, 06:32:55 PM
dogs for sure, but I have a cat  Huh
9  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the last movie you watched? on: July 10, 2022, 06:25:33 PM
I hope you rewatched it? or have you watched it for the first time?  Grin
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy some low cap coins on: July 10, 2022, 06:12:42 PM
When Bitcoin bounces, top altcoins will bounce first, not low cap altcoins.
I am totally agree with you that when Bitcoin start to bullish ,all the top altcoins start to bullish because it's directly propotional to Bitcoin.
But the best thing for low market cap coin is that it's bullish jump is more higher then top altcoin due to low resistance
So you have more possible chance to earn more
You could say the influence of Bitcoin on the top altcoins is extraordinary whether the price goes up or when it goes down,
coins like that when they go up I don't think they will last long and different from the top altcoins,
so we really have to know when is the right time to buy and sell it

I partly disagree with you. I don’t think that all the top altcoins will follow Bitcoin. It is clear that locally every coin will give some bounce, but it is unlikely to go on trend. I believe more, when alt season comes, we need to monitor which segment will go up and follow the coins of this segment, starting from the top coins, and then look at similar lowcaps.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy some low cap coins on: June 29, 2022, 01:55:01 PM
I like Zil, Bat, and Matic on that list. Zil should do well soon here, considering XCAD network is on their network. XCAD is gonna be huge success, should put Zil on the map after that. Bat also just introduced a native wallet to their browser, which is pretty awesome. Matic is keeping the ball rolling on their solutions and now offering a privacy solution with zks, as well as rollups. It's gonna be good.

Why do you like ZIL so much? Personally, I do not see any great advantages in it. Even newer networks like AVAX, EGLD and NEAR are looking more interesting. The only thing I agree with is that XCAD is a really outstanding project. The XCAD Network innovations they offer are going to be a really big deal in the near future. And in my opinion, this project is one of the reasons why zil is still interesting. We still need to see what they will show with Metapolis, maybe it will also be interesting. But again, for a fairly old chain, they are pretty passive compared to the competition.

Hey guys ! Do somebody still consider XCAD as a good investment? After all announcements the price still goes down.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy some low cap coins on: May 23, 2022, 12:18:18 PM
I like Zil, Bat, and Matic on that list. Zil should do well soon here, considering XCAD network is on their network. XCAD is gonna be huge success, should put Zil on the map after that. Bat also just introduced a native wallet to their browser, which is pretty awesome. Matic is keeping the ball rolling on their solutions and now offering a privacy solution with zks, as well as rollups. It's gonna be good.

Why do you like ZIL so much? Personally, I do not see any great advantages in it. Even newer networks like AVAX, EGLD and NEAR are looking more interesting. The only thing I agree with is that XCAD is a really outstanding project. The XCAD Network innovations they offer are going to be a really big deal in the near future. And in my opinion, this project is one of the reasons why zil is still interesting. We still need to see what they will show with Metapolis, maybe it will also be interesting. But again, for a fairly old chain, they are pretty passive compared to the competition.
13  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you think betting on Games/Events/Competition is evil on: May 23, 2022, 11:58:07 AM
I don't think it's evil in and of itself. The only problem is that some people get carried away too much and cease to control themselves. I bet on games from time to time, but only to increase interest in the game, nothing more. It should never be a source of income, but just a small hobby with little spending in relation to your wallet. Then it's okay.
14  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the last movie you watched? on: May 23, 2022, 11:42:53 AM
The King's Man - The Beginning is my last one.
I like their line, they clearly maintain the style in each new part. I do not think that the new one is worse than the previous ones.
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: PC gamers I need help to decide on: May 23, 2022, 11:28:58 AM
It depends on the point of view. Maybe games on the console charge some money, but the console initially costs less than a good gaming PC, and by an order of magnitude. Therefore, I believe that the console is still better for games.
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