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RIP-coin? crashes on launch for me anyway.
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Found this on Reddit. No idea if this is the correct category but apparently FreeWallet.org is redirecting everyone's payments to their own personal wallet. https://etherscan.io/address/0x11b85b4e2fadaebe04a251377aa35b9be3c785f0So far $8 million stolen. They also have a Bitcoin, Dash and Monero wallet. Their website seems to be professionally done so it seems many people are affected. If you use this wallet, immediately withdraw any funds. People love catchy headlines! $8 million stolen... oh wait, it was $7 million... oh wait, but from whom? If you read the original thread on Reddit, you'll see that there's not a single person who actually lost money with Freewallet! The reason our users got worried is because they checked their wallet balances on the blockchain explorer and found out the funds aren't there. However, the address displayed in the app is a so-called "hot wallet" used for receiving transactions. We consider keeping the funds there as well as storing private keys locally a risk because if the access to your device is compromised, it would give a hacker an opportunity to steal your assets. That is why after our user receives a transaction, the funds are moved to the cold storage. Whenever he/she needs to make a transaction, the funds are transferred from the cold storage as well. Their actual balance is displayed in the app; what people see on a blockchain explorer is most likely an intermediary transfer of funds in/out of the cold storage (and our users aren't charged with any fees for such transactions). That's exactly what it was: rebalancing between different cold storages. Not piping their funds to an outside source. The's rather obscure then since I've received an email today informing me that I should reset my wallet on your site. Catch is, I don't use online wallets, never have and I am confident that I also never signed up with your site. It also wasn't a phishing email since I looked at the full email header and double checked the link to your site. http://prntscr.com/hb7gh6So tell me, where the heck did you get my email address and why did I receive said email? |
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Umm...any idea why 89% of the coin belongs to one address?   
PURA last price: 0.00014964 Volume BTC 725.970 24hr %increase 38.3
It's easy to pump a coin if it's only listed on one exchange with a small number of people owning the majority of the coins supply. Let's see where this goes when and if it gets added to other Exchanges. Or, once the richest wallet decides to dump... |
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Well, there is the copyright infringement and then there is this...  Roger Ver, Bitmain and co are off to a good start with "the new bitcoin".... uhmmm lol |
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Like I've said, I know for a fact that the network was handling all player funds cross-cage processing (settlements between skins on the network. Common practice else every skin would end up owning money to the network or, like you've said, take deposits but don't settle with the network. Thus, networks always handle the processing unless a skin is at VERY good standing with them. Thus anyone who thinks he's owed money, contact Enterra.
That is definitely not how its handled. To acquire a standalone licence is a 1 time payment of around $10-$20K for this kind of poker software, honestly, anymore than 10 and your just throwing your money away. Ontop of that it depends what kind of partnership deal you close. Typically these platforms charge like a % of net-rake (5-10% depending on volume). They do NOT manage the funds in anyway shape or form. That way they take no responsibility for player funds, regulations etc. my opinion is that most of these brands actually go in with good intentions. But they have no idea what they are doing and when they realize they are at a lose of $20-30K and its time to pack their bags, they take whatever change is left inside. I guarantee you they didn't make millions. On the other hand, why should a player care? His funds are frozen/stolen or whatever. Very sad! Anyone who played on the Enterra network can see that the network itself handled the processing by simply looking at the withdraw emails. Those always came from the network / their domain and by looking at their network site the standard revenue share model for this particular network appears to be 50/50. Funky considering that the network doesn't even put any "network wide" promotions up but rather leaves (or should I say left) those up to each individual skin. This is not how you "pool players" and defeats the purpose of offering a networked solution in the first place. Edit: @game-protect Enterra what?
Enterra Poker delivers the software and do not state anything about a poker network! http://www.enterra-poker.com/pokernetworkshttps://www.enterrabitcoinpoker.com/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1139633.0So Cyberdeck Poker launched its own "poker network" and called themselves the flagship while their network had no other skins and therefore of course a very low traffic as a standalone site. You don't get it uh? CDP was the first skin on that network owned and operated by Enterra. Apparently they were meant to be the flagship room but there was basically zero intensive by the network to make the effort of all their skins work due to a lack of any good network wide promotions. Basically each skin put up their own tournaments and whatever and most used to set them up so they would only show on their own skin. CDP were the only ones out of the bunch of skins who tried to make this really work. The other skins were just running 1-5 chip freerolls and then hunted their players on their own cash game tables. I know that because I used to play on 3 of those skins and they were all crap and their collusion at the cash tables vs the other players was just obvious and blunt. So yeah to get back to the actual point of my initial reply. Anyone who still has a balance on ANY of their skins is owed by the network operator, Enterra. ............................. Seems you know more than I do. In anycase, Flagship, white-label or licensed, they didn't do a very good job. I think any btc poker room should segregate player funds, and add at the very least $10K in btc equivalence just for player payout. Then they can decide how much money/investment and work they will put into marketing. Losing funds of players is absolutely unacceptable. Perhaps this is one of many reasons why bitcoin poker hasn't really evolved with the years. Should have been huge by now I couldn't agree more. I believe the network itself made a huge mistake. They probably exchanged deposits for fiat and then they woke up to BTC at X times it's value. Imho CDP did a good job with their efforts to make their skin work but if the network operator screws up, what can they do? I think if CDP was a standalone room they could have succeeded. I chatted with them many times and, like others said, they were on top of player collusion, had some good skin exclusive promotions etc. Honestly, networked poker is dead (imho). Over the years I've seen so many sites and networks (real money) go down and I was really hoping that this BTC network would succeed. The idea was great since you really need to pool players to have a decent number of players in Bitcoin but yeah, badly executed from the networks side. I've checked your site and have two questions:
1. Do you require documents on withdraw? KYC?
2. Do you run the tournaments mentioned in OP? Like weekly guaranteed 5K? Because the tournament schedule on your site is empty.
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Like I've said, I know for a fact that the network was handling all player funds cross-cage processing (settlements between skins on the network. Common practice else every skin would end up owning money to the network or, like you've said, take deposits but don't settle with the network. Thus, networks always handle the processing unless a skin is at VERY good standing with them. Thus anyone who thinks he's owed money, contact Enterra.
That is definitely not how its handled. To acquire a standalone licence is a 1 time payment of around $10-$20K for this kind of poker software, honestly, anymore than 10 and your just throwing your money away. Ontop of that it depends what kind of partnership deal you close. Typically these platforms charge like a % of net-rake (5-10% depending on volume). They do NOT manage the funds in anyway shape or form. That way they take no responsibility for player funds, regulations etc. my opinion is that most of these brands actually go in with good intentions. But they have no idea what they are doing and when they realize they are at a lose of $20-30K and its time to pack their bags, they take whatever change is left inside. I guarantee you they didn't make millions. On the other hand, why should a player care? His funds are frozen/stolen or whatever. Very sad! Anyone who played on the Enterra network can see that the network itself handled the processing by simply looking at the withdraw emails. Those always came from the network / their domain and by looking at their network site the standard revenue share model for this particular network appears to be 50/50. Funky considering that the network doesn't even put any "network wide" promotions up but rather leaves (or should I say left) those up to each individual skin. This is not how you "pool players" and defeats the purpose of offering a networked solution in the first place. Edit: @game-protect Enterra what?
Enterra Poker delivers the software and do not state anything about a poker network! http://www.enterra-poker.com/pokernetworkshttps://www.enterrabitcoinpoker.com/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1139633.0So Cyberdeck Poker launched its own "poker network" and called themselves the flagship while their network had no other skins and therefore of course a very low traffic as a standalone site. You don't get it uh? CDP was the first skin on that network owned and operated by Enterra. Apparently they were meant to be the flagship room but there was basically zero intensive by the network to make the effort of all their skins work due to a lack of any good network wide promotions. Basically each skin put up their own tournaments and whatever and most used to set them up so they would only show on their own skin. CDP were the only ones out of the bunch of skins who tried to make this really work. The other skins were just running 1-5 chip freerolls and then hunted their players on their own cash game tables. I know that because I used to play on 3 of those skins and they were all crap and their collusion at the cash tables vs the other players was just obvious and blunt. So yeah to get back to the actual point of my initial reply. Anyone who still has a balance on ANY of their skins is owed by the network operator, Enterra. |
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Like I've said, I know for a fact that the network was handling all player funds cross-cage processing (settlements between skins on the network. Common practice else every skin would end up owning money to the network or, like you've said, take deposits but don't settle with the network. Thus, networks always handle the processing unless a skin is at VERY good standing with them. Thus anyone who thinks he's owed money, contact Enterra.
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and finally they stole my money too
ВНИМАНИЕ!!! ЭНТЕРРА = ЖУЛИКИ И ВОРЫ, НЕСВЯЗЫВАЙТЕСЬ И ТЕМ-БОЛЕЕ НЕДАВАЙТЕ ДЕНЕГ - ОНИ МЕНЯ ОБОКРАЛИ И ОТКАЗАЛИСЬ ОТВЕЧАТЬ ПО ДОЛГАМ!
ENTERRA - THIEVES & EMBEZZLERS - DO NOT BUSINESS AND DON'T SEND MONEY - THEY STOLE FROM ME AND DENY RESPONSIBILITY!!!
опытные воры! they are a russian piece of shit scammers after all, don't listen to Siren's Song, if you know what i mean!
Who did you talk to, how much are you owed in BTC? I know for a fact that payouts have been processed, got mine a long time ago. However, the entire network has been pretty much dead for months. If you're still owed funds at this point then you're owed by Enterra since they do (or did) the entire processing for the network. The sites are just skins on the network just like on real money poker networks. |
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I think that's a false positive -- I've seen that in other coins. Your best bet is to check the download URL against https://virustotal.comThanks. Figured that this is probably the case. Seen it with other coins in the past as well but most of them fixed the issue. It's a big "turn off" imho for new adopters. Thanks again anyway, will run it from a VM. |
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I'm wondering if any regular BTC poker players are playing here? Guys, what is your experience? If I'm already playing at Fortunejack, SWC, and Nitrogen, is there some reason to try this place out?
I've been playing online for many years, did Black Friday and co, played on the old SwC right after Micon launched it and in general I believe that playing bitcoin poker is the most convenient solution. Playing on Cyberdeck since the beta launch last year and liking it a lot. Traffic is low but they just officially soft-launched earlier this year and afaik they have been working out network-wide adjustments during this time. I think what the site needs most is that those of us who like playing on there show some support by re-tweeting CDP and by inviting some of the poker players some of us might know. in general, engage with the site, give it some exposure. The software is great, games are good and the MTT schedule is attractive but lacking players. I also think that Cyberdeck has shown that they are consistent in what they are doing and very transparent. I logged in and played here a couple weeks ago, and it was a bit slow, or I just hadn't logged in at the right time. What is the freeroll schedule like over the next few days. Generally I would play a couple of those to get my feet wet. At the moment Freerolls only run Thursday - Sunday Sandy explained in this thread how the tournament schedule works and she also said that it's not Cyberdeck's goal to cater to players who do not rake or don't deposit. Scroll back because as a raking player I like their approach. The freerolls are important but they seem to get scrapped and I tend to check once and be done for the day.
Noticed they are not getting enough people again and that must be due to infrequency of schedule. Hopefully that gets addressed on launch day. They didn't get scrapped. The have been running on the above days consistently for many weeks. I understand that the schedule is reset every Monday for reconciliation with the network and recalculation because the guarantees are backed by Cyberdeck when they go up, so they are not operating on player funds (big +). I think Sandy also said that they are adding new tournaments with guarantees network wide but perhaps that wasn't in this thread. She also said that they would make adjustments because most of the players in the freeroll are only cashing out, don't rake and never made a deposit. For a poker network that's a big no no and raking players should feel the same. Players like that drain the ecosystem, they don't contribute to it. For all I care scrap the freerolls or have a weekly new players freeroll and add cash game point buy-in's to all other bonus tournaments. I'd rather see CDP rewarding raking players than those who don't. Evildrum, you have a crypto exchange? Make a deposit and play some real poker  Edit: Sandy, please promote OFC and NL ring games more. I think you could put foot into the OFC niche since it's quite popular among players and plays well on your site. |
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You will find most action at the tables from Thursday through Sunday evening until late EU time. Playing on Cyberdeck since the soft launch and you'll find me at the 10 and 20 chip ring games.
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I'm in and excited about their planned support for OpenAssets. Support for digital assets in wallets (over 3rd party websites) is imho long overdue.
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You'll find the most action at the tables during the weekend and it's still a little time dependant but had good action last Sunday and managed to 3-table the micro ring tables for a short while too. Are you a tournament or cash game player?
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One does not simply recover "lost" coins with the help of 'a' hacker.
What is the hacker going to do? Hack some BTC addresses to recover said coins? I almost spew my morning coffee over my screens when I read this lol.
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If one says that SDC is not anonymous then that person doesn't know how to bloody use it (right).
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What would be interesting to see would be a chart showing how an investor's BTC value fared over time - whether the gains from staking ever outweigh the losses from holding a basket of alcoins.
Not since I started looking into it (mid-September-ish). At that point the picture was like this: However the site is probably "under water". If you don't double-count withdrawals it paid out 26 BTC, i.e. 112 - 26 = 86 BTC until "break even". But it only has 82.5 worth of assets and that's in ideal conditions, i.e. if it somehow could liquidate those positions without crashing the prices. Withdrawal totals collected from the payouts page: https://stakeminers.com/transactions.php... and it's gotten far worse since then. I wonder if the withdrawal policy will change now with this new revelation (i.e. paying out 100% of principal that depreciated by 67%). You lil FUD spreading crypto-extremist! Staking is much more profitable than actual mining. FUDor said so! |
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Remember "DigiCash"?
I don't see what ZCash will offer that isn't already offered by SDC, DASH or another coin.
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soon(tm)..., we will..., there will be..., not ready..., and so on. Perhaps it's a good idea to review this again once this operation is actually live and in a position to address the questions asked.
As for "the only fee will be electricity", where do you plan to gain additional funds for repairs and hardware replacement, new PSUs and so on then?
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