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Where are they?? Is this related to klee?
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Anyway, can you let me know when you have ran out of klee's coins?
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Here's my experience: - Invested ฿4.988
- Purchased 1.72TH/s over five years
- Had consistent daily payouts with no gaps
- 15 payouts received
- ฿0.77675518 paid back
- 15.57247755% paid back over 15 days
- Average return >1% per day
- Break even 100 days
- 1725 days remaining on contract after break even
- Step 3... profit!
This is BCS posting themselves. I can smell it. 100 days BE? Dude, you cannot buy 1.7 TH/s without being aware of difficulty.
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Ahhh, I got the idea. Yeah, on exchanges there are already tons of newly mined coins and clean coins.
No, the time between the two transfers to my forward addresses was exactly 3600 seconds.. That could help tracing them down... Or maybe it doesn't matter, you have likely spent more time thinking about this. What is your opinion on this?
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Not exactly like cash. More like a bank, because it is traceable. You can receive regular payments to your bank account for innocently delivering pizzas to a drug cartel. But getting money from a drug cartel will raise suspicion. Of course you can prove you were just delivering pizza, but the aim is not even to have to prove it.
With cash it indeed doesn't matter who you receive it from. But if with it didn't matter then you could just create a new address, send the coin to that address and claim you bought those coins - no need for mixing, right? But people still use mixers so..
Two things you should add to your service:
If you choose 2 forwarding addresses and the difference is 1 hour, it will be exactly 3600 seconds. You should make a feature so that the time is random within a certain range.
For a larger fee you could give out freshly mined coins. You could probably buy new coins from miners.
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Received another withdrawal and support was helpful enough to accept my purchase even when I sent coins to an older address..
You guys are doing great job.. BUT. Where's the 2FA??
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I just tried your service.. works wonderfully but I got klee's hacked bitcoins ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686275.0). Should I be worried about using them on exchanges? It's actually a big problem, if you are just mixing for privacy, what if you get bitcoins that were used to pay for assassination?
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I just tested out bitmixer. My new coins have 100% taint to the thiefs original address. Should I be worried about using them on exchanges with my real name? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Crypto-Farm is a new project so it is unlikely that the locals are familiar with our project. If there are any scheduled events in the near future, we would be honored to be invited. Our representatives are dedicated to transparency in the cloud mining industry. There are too many cloud mining initiatives that fail to turn a profit.
You are so dedicated to transparency that you don't have any single people name on your website? That you don't share any pictures? Also, you are clearly not from Iceland. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Want me to explain why? Or rather shut down your sad scam in embarrassment already? These 2 huge red flags took me 3 minutes..
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FexNpGnQ.png%3F1&t=663&c=mQV26cTvNH6nHQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.couponzguru.com%2Fwp-content%2Fthemes%2Fcouponpress%2Fthumbs%2Fwhite.png%3F&t=663&c=WTBLeU-5YHe1Vg) Stolen, just turned blue. Try harder next time. People do not invest in them until they show any signs of legitimacy!!!
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crypto-farm.com%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Fimg_ourfarm.jpg&t=663&c=QjFZWmdE14i5rQ) HAHAHA Good luck tricking people in thinking you have actual miners!
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I was posting on the different thread about this - can someone figure out exactly what the current breakeven rate is? I mean, if I buy a standard 100 gh/s contract, will I at least break even if the price of BTC stays the same as now? and how long will it take? I found a calculator that shows how much I can expect to get in revenue but how do your fees factor into that? Thanks.
Edit: I do see it says lifetime validity but me, as a newb, did not understand what that meant until I came looking at this thread.
It's not really lifetime, its until they are not profitable.. cant expect for contracts to run forever.. for five years also can't. We would love to see lower prices but unlikely to happen if their competition is at 0.003 BTC per GHs and not going lower
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I bought into this a few days ago. I only bought 100 GH/s because I have this feeling that I wont really make anything on it. In fact I would be happy to see just break even in 5yrs. It all depends on the difficulty not increasing drastically I think. This term it doesn't look like it is predicted to be a big increase so I shouldn't see a big drop per day. If we get a few terms with bog increases I may not have any chance to ever make it back. Either way it will be an experience that I will learn from one way or the other.
This is the problem with buying such a long term investment in cloud mining or any type of mining for that matter. As it is now the difficulty is doubling roughly every two months, in other words your expected revenue is going to half every two months (assuming that your provider does not charge any kind of ongoing maintenance fee, if it does then your drop will be more every two months). The later part of your contract will see very few results. My thinking was with the .3btc i spent on this contract... What could I have bought really to get into mining with such little funds. I mean, for me to buy a miner doing 100gh/s would cost me more then .3btc. I will still only get 100gh/s so all I am losing is the paper weight after it costs more to run then it can get mine in coin, which I imagine wont be long. Like I said it is more of an experiment for me. I will not be reinvesting along the run I am just curious if it will eventually give any roi at all. https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140704023505485N5SxDMkW0693Bitman AntMiner S3 costs .725 BTC that runs at 478 GHs, or ~ .15 per 100 GHs. Granted you do not have to pay for electricity, however I don't think that the electric cost would add up to be 1/2 of the cost of the machine. That miner isn't shipping yet. And even so you will a lot more on power for 5 years than the price of the miner. It draws 366 watts! Let's say you have very cheap power $.05/kilowatt. That would be ((366 * 24) / 1000) * $.05 / day = $.44 / day. Over 5 years that is $803 which is currently 1.27 BTC. So even with very cheap power you are looking at .75+1.27 or 2.02 BTC. 2 BTC / 478 is .004184 BTC So if PBMining were legit they would be either charging a fee for power or charging a LOT more per GH/s. We also know they aren't charging a fee for maintenance because they have been basically returning the theoretical maximum BTC that can be mined. So something isn't right and the math doesn't support them. For the record you can by cloud mining cheaper than what PBMining charges, but there is a fee for power taken out on a daily basis. An example it the PETA shares at HavelockInvestments. Each share is 1 GH/s of mining and the current cost is about .0027 per share. It is a free market price so it goes up and down all the time, well mostly down. You get paid daily. LOL at people assuming PB Mining magically doesnt use any power.. There is no way that they can sell contracts for 0.003 BTC without asking to pay for electricity. 100GH costs $200 and electricity will be consumed about $600 during those years. Where the $400 go? People should start using common sense and realize they are in no way legit.. just a ponzi.
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Thats a sick amount.. But the guy should be trackable don't you think so?
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Can I exchange commission for GHs?? I have 48$ commissions.. not enough for a contract but would like to mine with it somehow
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Wtf are you guys thinking buying CEX contracts? I've got over 1 TH on www.lunamine.com for 0.0025 BTC per GHs.. and they pay out whenever you want to. CEX is 0.0061.. Three times more!! This will never break even. Even the "lowered" maintenance is 2x larger! ripoff Yeah I have referral link but I am not even using it here.. I'm just being sorry for the guys tricked into this legit scam..
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How is business going? I bought 600 GHs more.. Please confirm
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Withdrawals still strong.. Maybe you should publish all txids for more transparency? BCS does that
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Sorry to say this.. but nothing unexpected..
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So to sum this up there are 3 red flags:
1) This website is built using WordPress and purchased design (also purchased by 14,000 others).. although it looks decent, it is just a website quickly put together. Also, names involved are tied to previous scams. 2) Coins used for payouts have gone through mixing services! Why hide? Do they come from previous scams? 3) No legitimate companies show virtual offices in contact info. Virtual offices are for legal use, not for pretending of having an office.
Please clear this up.. I would love to invest but these things have to be answered.
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