@Moderators

As far as I know, Bitcointalk was founded on the principles of privacy and decentralization, which are at the very core of the Bitcoin project. These principles are reflected in the design of the Bitcoin protocol and the underlying blockchain technology, which enable users to transact securely and privately without the need for a central authority.

However, it is unfortunate that from what I've seen, Bitcointalk has strayed from these core principles and has allowed users and platforms to promote practices that are contrary to the values of decentralization and privacy. For example, the promotion of KYC and centralization by 3rd party gambling sites goes against the very essence of Bitcoin and undermines the fundamental principles upon which it was built.

Furthermore, the influence of these 3rd party gambling sites on the acceptance of decentralized competition is concerning, as they have been able to clearly silence platforms like nice2win through the use of moderation and censorship. This is unacceptable and goes against the spirit of open and fair competition that is essential to the growth and development of the Bitcoin ecosystem. I fully expect concerned "shilling" users will deny it but you won't fool everyone this time.

In this regard, it is important that Bitcointalk reaffirms its commitment to the principles of decentralization and privacy, and takes steps to prevent the promotion of practices that are contrary to these values. This includes ensuring that platforms like nice2win, which is committed to respecting the core values of Bitcoin, are given the support and respect they deserve by moderators and users alike.

Moving this thread back to the Gambling section where nice2win could hope to seduce new users and give some well deserved competition to the leading 3rd party gambling sites would go a long way towards bringing some balance back.

Yes it's closed beta for now and sorry haven't seen your replies for some reasons.

@Daltonik @Hispo Thread has been moved again so guess Stake.com won this round again, amirite?

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@worldofcoins

Seems you haven't read the thread at all! Bitcoin is indeed accepted.

As for KYC, having KYC for a crypto site can be seen as bad for several reasons, one of which is that it goes against the very nature of bitcoin as a decentralized and anonymous form of currency. Bitcoin was created with the aim of allowing individuals to transact without the need for intermediaries, such as banks, and without having to reveal their personal information.

Implementing KYC on a crypto site goes against this fundamental principle of anonymity and can be viewed as a form of centralization, as it gives a single entity control over the personal information of its users. This goes against the decentralized nature of bitcoin and can be seen as a step backwards.

Furthermore, requiring KYC can be seen as a form of surveillance, as it allows the crypto site to track and monitor the financial activities of its users. This goes against the privacy-focused ethos of bitcoin and can be viewed as a violation of users' rights.

Additionally, implementing KYC can be seen as a barrier to entry for many potential users, as it adds an additional hurdle that must be overcome in order to use the site. This can be seen as a disadvantage for both the users and the crypto site, as it can discourage users from using the site and reduce the overall adoption and usage of bitcoin.

Lastly, @worldofcoins, being a paid shill for Metaspins must really be worth it; trying to push newcomers away and actually getting away with it!

[Moderator note: consecutive posts merged (separated via horizontal lines)]

Here's a screenshot of the Beta version mentioned in earlier post. And also a link for OG users to unlock BTC bets: https://beta.nice2win.com



@piebeyb
Will definitely look into the signature! Thanks for the tip.

@rhomelmabini
The contract differs only in very superficial ways such as name, maximum bet limit, etc. The core functions have not changed.

@redsun114
Thank you for vouching for us

@CryptSafe
You could not have summarized it better. As for your questions, let me answer:
1.The minimum bet fee is different for each network. It is always around close to 1$ around worth of crypto.
2.The concept of withdrawal does not exist within a web3 casino like ours. You always keep custody of your coins.
3.The customer support is fast depending if the team members are awake or not.
4.We do not reward 2$ to members whether they win or not. We do reward them with the in-house currency $N2W which does not have any dollar value right now.

@bitcampaign
Yes, you can try definitely try as little as your comfortable with. Just so you know, the biggest winner so far won 2000 MATIC in 2 bets, verifiable on the Polygon blockchain at any moment.
Check out this page to get to know us a little better: https://nice2win.com/team

@noorman0

The technology behind decentralized applications is evolving, even for Bitcoin, which is usually left behind when we think about web3. Actually, per our own superficial knowledge on Bitcoin 3 months ago, we assumed the same as you; the Bitcoin blockchain does not support smart contracts and therefore interacting with BTC using smart contracts must be done with a wrapped version of BTC on EVM-compatible blockchains like Ethereum.

After some research, we stumbled upon the novel solution called Stacks (https://www.stacks.co/). In short, Stacks uses the Bitcoin blockchain to store all Stacks blocks then the smart contract part is executed on the Stacks blockchain. Sounds like a sidechain, right? It is definitely not because of their use of the mining protocol called proof-of-transfer (PoX) which runs in parallel to the Bitcoin blockchain through their block headers. More information on their blog: https://stacks.org/stacks-blockchain

It definitely is a pretty new solution and is gaining more traction lately so I know it must be new to some of you.

To conclude and reply to your question: Yes, you will be able to send your BTC on an address and the Stacks smart contract will receive them, record it on the Bitcoin blockchain, execute the smart contract code, record the result on the Bitcoin blockchain and send back to Bitcoin to your address if the smart contract determined you've won.

This is definitely not the same process as WBTC on Ethereum because there is a centralized 3rd party whose job is to certify the WTBC:BTC ratio is 1:1. With Stacks, you do not need a 3rd party middleman because the verification is done synchronously with the Bitcoin blockchain and Stacks.

Thank you so much for the interest and questions! Let me answer to all of you

@Daltonik
BTC is actually integrated on our Beta platform right now with the Stacks solution! Just need a few more tweaks to be ready for widespread public use. I can post a screenshot of the Beta space?

@joeperry
Like I said above, can I post a screenshot of the BTC Beta space to avoid being moved for the next couple days until official launch?

@piebeyb
You don't need to register your email address to play on nice2win. As for the testnet version, we have supported it in the past and there was not enough activity for it to make sense long-term as there is a cost to run the nodes on all blockchain including testnets. You can always try very low bets (1$ worth of crypto).

@Nrcewker
See above for the BTC integration. I'll post a screenshot later today. Thank you for the kind words and looking forward for the review.

@coinerer
Completely understand your hesitation. Being a web3 platform comes with its perks like you described. However, connecting your wallet to nice2win poses no risk to your funds being "hacked" because we do not ask the permission to have access to the crypto used to bet. Below is a screenshot as an example of a contract that would be able to use your funds if you do not trust the issuer after you used the platform.

Token permission from 1inch:


Moreover, you can check out the audit that was done on the smart contract we are using: https://medium.com/@nice2win/archived-nice2win-proxy-audit-analysis-ba48dedcd743.
Basically, you will never be charged more than what you agreed to spend on your current bet.

@Hamphser
You are correct in your assumptions. To be more precise, giving the permission to a smart contract to have unlimited access to a token actually is a backdoor to "hack" funds from a web3 wallet, which we do not do of course.
MATIC is one of the option to bet on the platform, you can click on the top right section on nice2win to swap between blockchains. It is definitely not the only payment method!

@passwordnow
Thank you for the kind words and vouch. Looking forward to see you make a bet or two

@bitcampaign
Try it out and let us know what you think! Excited to read your enthusiasm btw!

@Hispo
Hello again friend. Definitely had to change a few things to get accepted in this community but I believe we will be able to solidify our place. Thank you and have a great day/night wherever you are


As a closing note, we are definitely surprised by the amount of replies here in such a short amount of time so wanted to give a big shoutout to bitcointalk.org, you guys definitely have a serious yet welcoming community with many active users. Will make sure to spend more time here from now on!

Web3 gambling project recently launched in August 2022

DISCLAIMER: This project has been posted before in the Gambling section before having the topic getting moved for dubious motives listed below so please advise.

1. Accepting BTC: clearly written below how we support BTC
2. Promoting an Altcoin: the in-house casino token is NOT the focus of this post as clearly stated below


nice2win.com


The project?

nice2win is a gambling platform running on smart contracts that allows to bet ETH, MATIC or BNB (very soon BTC) on games like:

• Coin Flip
• Roll a Dice
• Two Dice
• Etheroll
• Roulette

No signup required so you can stay anonymous. All you need is a web3 wallet. House edge is 1%. Non-custodial gambling ensuring no KYC or frozen funds.

Why play?

First of all, playing on nice2win guarantees a verifiable fair experience. In contrast to what is done on web2 platforms (99% of sites advertising on this forum), it is impossible for nice2win to cheat its users or alter results because the backend part of the platform is visible to the world. Moreover, centralized casinos have the potential to rig the odds (you are bluepilled if you don’t think this happens already, no matter how reputable a casino is). Players are entering bets with probabilities of winning that are lower than publicly displayed; this is reality.

Gambling is actually one of the best use case for Dapps (web3 apps) because all the algorithms behind your favorite games are verifiable

Additionally, players receive $N2W on every bet, whether you win or lose. The token will be spendable on the platform and will eventually be tradeable on DEXes like Uniswap for example. The token is not the focus of this post and we do not expect users to care about $N2W unless they are serious gamblers on nice2win.

Lastly, avoid custodial gambling platforms like the plague (see the FTX debacle) — NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS

Our specs?

nice2win is deployed on the following blockchain networks:

• Polygon
• Binance Smart Chain
• Optimism
• Arbitrum

With the help of smart contracts, we redefine the meaning of the expression provably fair commonly used in the community, with the following attributes:

• All bets are processed by hundreds of validators instead of one centralized database like the ones used on all popular web2 casinos
• Verify in real-time the code logic that processes your bet very unlike trusting a traditional black box casino
• Have access to all-time history results for all bets ever processed by nice2win on; do not rely on the good faith of the "house" to store your precious data and coins

The site is now available on mobile, tablet and computer. Currently working on the Stacks solution — they enable smart contracts for Bitcoin!


The proofs?

• Medium : https://medium.com/@nice2win
• Dune Analytics (for Optimism): https://dune.com/nice2win/nice2win-web3-casino
• Twitter : https://twitter.com/nice2winDapp
• Discord : https://discord.gg/GwuDax5RRW
• Github: https://github.com/nice2win

Thanks for your reply both here and in DM.

I will again try to post it in the "Gambling" section soon enough. The reason why we want the post in the original thread is because we are not trying to sell our token. Although, we appreciate the interest in the token, it is meant to be secondary to the project that is a web3 casino, more like a loyalty program.

Definitely will address the issue for the next time I post.

@Hispo. Really seems Stake.com is working hard to get our thread out of the main Gambling thread... You will find new reasons every time to get our thread moved? It's now the second time. It is clear I am hyping the casino first, and not the token. Very clear.

Thanks for the all questions! I'll answer them all.

@AmoreJaz

1. We're going to add a major BTC smart contract solution called Stacks. This will require a different wallet because it's on a blockchain of it's own. Totally not like WBTC where you warp BTC. It is actual Bitcoins that you use.
2. Thank you for the kind words. The utility token is mainly to add an extra incentive. Users don't have to get invested in it like you said. Totally up to you!

@Don Pedro Dinero
1. Like I said above, it's not WBTC. We are working on a solution called Stacks which uses real BTC.
2. That's what web3 is about. No KYC and an anonymous presence is encouraged.
3. The token is an extra for recurring players so you don't have to worry about it.

@Hispo
1. We are not promoting the token first, as you very well can see; we are promoting the Casino. The token is an extra incentive for recurring users and will hold a value for the users to win real crypto from it. The price will be decided by the market, of course, but the market will price in the real crypto value winnable from it...

2. Liquidity will be locked for 1 year or 2 years. To reassert on the subject, the project is not about the token: it is about a web3 casino earning fees (1% house edge) from bets and hoping to slowly grind it out with exciting games and gaining new users that want out of the traditional web2 model. That's it.

Please, can you move this thread back to the Gambling section. I can remove all the content about the token if you desire. The project is about the casino, the token is secondary. Also, can you reply? I know you did not reply on the last post that you moved on a dead thread section.

@Hispo

I'll be happy to answer your questions and thanks for the interest!

1. Market is going to do what the market wants to do after the token is tradeable so the price movement should only matter to speculators trying to make a quick buck. The $N2W token will always carry the same value on nice2win as for the "betting power" on our games. The market (and the price) will adjust towards what profit value we standardize for bets made with $N2W.

2. It will definitely be an inflationary token.

3. We will write more Medium post about the token when closer to the official ERC-20 launch. For now, players can accumulate slowly when playing our games without compromising the gains they are after.

4. The management will definitely add the initial liquidity for the pair that makes most sense when we launch, could be either N2W/ETH or N2W/USDC or other stablecoins.

Petit rappel à tous, depuis le débacle de FTX, évitez les plateformes de gambling qui vous demandent de send vos coins avant de jouer — NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS

Web3 gambling project recently launched in August 2022

nice2win.com


The project?

nice2win is a gambling platform running on smart contracts that allows to bet ETH, MATIC or BNB (very soon BTC) on games like:

• Coin Flip
• Roll a Dice
• Two Dice
• Etheroll
• Roulette

No signup required so you can stay anonymous. All you need is a web3 wallet. House edge is 1%. Non-custodial gambling ensuring no KYC or frozen funds.

Why play?

For now, the $N2W token, which is not officially launched, is what generates the most hype for nice2win. You receive $N2W on every bet, whether you win or lose. The token will be spendable on the platform and will eventually be tradeable on DEXes like Uniswap for example.

Otherwise, playing on nice2win guarantees a verifiable fair experience. In contrast to what is done on web2 platforms (99% of sites advertising on this forum), it is impossible for nice2win to cheat its users or alter results because the backend part of the platform is visible to the world. Moreover, centralized casinos have the potential to rig the odds (you are bluepilled if you don’t think this happens already, no matter how reputable a casino is). Players are entering bets with probabilities of winning that are lower than publicly displayed; this is reality.

Gambling is actually one of the best use case for Dapps (web3 apps) because all the algorithms behind your favorite games are verifiable

Lastly, avoid custodial gambling platforms like the plague (see the FTX debacle) — NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS

Our specs?

nice2win is deployed on the following blockchain networks:

• Polygon
• Binance Smart Chain
• Optimism
• Arbitrum

With the help of smart contracts, we redefine the meaning of the expression provably fair commonly used in the community, with the following attributes:

• All bets are processed by hundreds of validators instead of one centralized database like the ones used on all popular web2 casinos
• Verify in real-time the code logic that processes your bet very unlike trusting a traditional black box casino
• Have access to all-time history results for all bets ever processed by nice2win on; do not rely on the good faith of the "house" to store your precious data and coins

The site is now available on mobile, tablet and computer. Currently working on the Stacks solution — they enable smart contracts for Bitcoin!


The proofs?

• Medium : https://medium.com/@nice2win
• Dune Analytics (for Optimism): https://dune.com/nice2win/nice2win-web3-casino
• Twitter : https://twitter.com/nice2winDapp
• Discord : https://discord.gg/GwuDax5RRW
• Github: https://github.com/nice2win

@Coin_trader

Can you verify and let me know? If this is left unread, I will have no choice to post this thread again in "Gambling"

@Coin_trader

Thank you for the reply!

We are currently implementing the Stacks blockchain which enables smart contract on Bitcoin so we will accept BTC soon. You can verify that the result is provably fair by reading the audit we posted on our Medium and verifying the smart contract we deployed on chain is the same.

Concerning your point about the casino license, centralized casinos have the potential to rig the odds (you are bluepilled if you don’t think this happens already, no matter how reputable a casino is). Players are entering bets with probabilities of winning that are lower than publicly displayed; this is reality so most users would be ill-advised to trust only looking at license. Morever, we are adding house games as soon as we're done coding it (roulette 2 weeks ago).

Can I respectfully ask this thread be moved back to "Gambling" as we will accept BTC very soon.

@Hispo
We'll be looking into the sound effects for sure! The option to decrease or increase the volume already exists if you click on the cog in the top right of the website.

As for the blockchains, all our games currently work on Optimism, Polygon, BSC (BNB) and Arbitrum. More info in my next reply

Les payouts traditionels seront atteignables quand on va augmenter le bankroll pour laisser tous les bets processer.

Salut! Merci pour la réponse. Je répond à tes interrogations ci-dessous

1. Pour avoir le 1% house edge, tu dois miser au dessus du house edge minimum amount qui est de 0.0001 ETH sur Optimism/Arbitrum pour l'instant. Donc, quand on disait "bas" et bien c'est sûre qu'il faut miser plus de 0.15$ USD et c'était surtout à titre comparatif des autre sites de gambling qui prennent jusqu'à 3% de house edge.

2. Le principe de ma réponse est le même que celle plus haut, tu dois monter ta mise pour atteindre le x36. Pour ce qui est de pair/impair, c'est certainement une bonne suggestion et nous allons ajouter ce fonctionnement bientôt grâce à ta remarque.

Laisse nous savoir s'il y a d'autres élements que tu veux nous mettre en évidence!

@FatFork

We very much appreciate your kind words and welcome. The work we put in the project makes us very happy so hopefully others like yourself see it and experience it!

Have you tried any game yet so far? Any favorites? Thanks again! 

@Hispo Thanks for the warm welcome. It'll be a pleasure to answer your questions.

1.

a)The concept of master key here is a bit ambiguous. Yes, we possess the address that owns the smart contract thus meaning we hold the key. However, there are only a limited number of functions this key allows us to use. We cannot alter an ongoing bet; the only event that would prevent a bet from not being settled would be a lack of funds in the smart contract balance or an error on the blockchain itself.

The entropy itself is 100% decentralized. The role of our smart contract is only to process the bets via a function named settleBet which guarantees all games on nice2win to be completely decentralized and randomized.

This might be more technical but let me list you the functions only the owner (the master key) can call:

• withdrawFunds = only the owner can remove the bankroll from the contract
• setMaxProfit = only the owner can decide the maximum profit for all bets
• approveNextOwner/acceptNextOwner = only the owner can decide the next owner
• increaseJackpot = only the owner can increase the jackpot capacity
• kill = only the owner can destroy the contract
• setCroupier/setSecretSigner = only the owner can decide which address settles the bet

From our perspective, these owner only functions do not jeopardize the decentralized aspect of the project. They are mainly used for protection against exploiting the bankroll, enabling the ability to shutdown the project or to transfer to a new owner.

Just to be clearer on the decentralized aspect, we cannot freeze your funds and you can remain anonymous at all times

b)In case there is a bug or a glitch, which is possible but unlikely (read this Medium post https://medium.com/@nice2win/archived-nice2win-proxy-audit-analysis-ba48dedcd743), we will do something like:
1. Settle all remaining bets
2. Kill the smart contract
3. Fix the bug
4. Redeploy the fixed smart contract

2. There's no transaction fee to deposit or withdraw because you hold your funds in your own web3 wallet. However, there is a 1% fee for all bets and you also have to pay for gas fee on the respective blockchain. Right now, the gas fee on the Optimism blockchain would be around 0.05$ per transaction.

3. The current minimum amount of money to bet with is 0.001 ETH or 1 MATIC or 0.05 BNB.

4. Since you don't deposit/withdraw on nice2win, we don't offer swapping services, although we do recommend some on our FAQ (https://nice2win.com/faq)

Web3 gambling project recently launched in August 2022

nice2win.com


The project?

nice2win is a gambling platform running on smart contracts that allows to bet ETH, MATIC or BNB on games like:

• Coin Flip
• Roll a Dice
• Two Dice
• Etheroll
• Roulette

No signup required so you can stay anonymous. All you need is a web3 wallet. House edge is 1%.

Why play?

For now, the $N2W token, which is not officially launched, is what generates the most hype for nice2win. You receive $N2W on every bet, whether you win or lose a bet. The token will be spendable on the platform and will eventually be tradeable on DEXes like Uniswap for example.

Otherwise, playing on nice2win guarantees a verifiable fair experience. In contrast to what is done on web2 platforms (99% of sites advertising on this forum), it is impossible for nice2win to cheat its user or alter results because the backend part of the platform is visible to the world. Actually, gambling is actually one of the best use case for Dapps (web3 apps) on the blockchain because it is open-source.

Lastly, we are a team of talented devs offering fun games and an innovative experience to stack the gains and have fun.

Our specs?
nice2win is deployed on the following blockchain networks:

• Polygon
• Binance Smart Chain
• Optimism
• Arbitrum

With the help of smart contracts, we redefine the meaning of the expression provably fair commonly used in the community, with the following attributes:

• All bets are processed by hundreds of validators instead of one centralized database like the ones used on all popular web2 casinos
• Verify in real-time the code logic that processes your bet very unlike trusting a traditional black box casino
• Have access to all-time history results for all bets ever processed by nice2win on; do not rely on the good faith of the "house" to store your precious data

The site is now available on mobile, tablet and computer.

The proofs?

Medium : https://medium.com/@nice2win
Dune Analytics (for Optimism): https://dune.com/nice2win/nice2win-web3-casino
Twitter : https://twitter.com/nice2winDapp
Discord : https://discord.gg/GwuDax5RRW
Github: https://github.com/nice2win

Projet de gambling(casino) fait par des développeurs qui parlent Français notamment.

nice2win.com


Le projet?
nice2win est une plateforme de gambling qui fonctionne entièrement par "smart contract" en misant du ETH, MATIC ou BNB sur des jeux simples comme :

• Pile ou Face
• Tirer un Dé
• Etheroll
• La Roulette

Tout peut se faire de façon anonyme donc pas besoin de s’inscrire, juste besoin d’un portefeuille web3.

Pourquoi jouer?

Pour l’instant, le token $N2W qui n’est pas encore officiellement lancé est ce qui génère le plus de hype pour nice2win. En effet, vous gagnez des $N2W à chaque mise, que ce soit gagnant ou perdant. Le token va servir à dépenser sur la plateforme et va éventuellement être échangeable sur Uniswap par exemple.

Par ailleurs, jouer sur nice2win, c’est s’assurer que vous jouez sur un site de "gambling" juste. Contrairement à tout ce que se fait sur web2 (les sites qui ne fonctionnent pas avec des "smart contracts" comme Stake ou Roobet), on ne peut pas tricher car le backend est visible à tous. Les jeux du hasard sont une des meilleures applications de "Dapp" sur la blockchain car tout est open-source.

Finalement, nous pensons être un team talentueux qui présente des jeux amusants avec une expérience intéressante pour faire des gains et avoir du plaisir.

Nos spécifications?

nice2win est déployé sur les blockchains suivantes:

• Polygon
• Binance Smart Chain
• Optimism
• Arbitrum

En raison de la technologie utilisée alimenté par les "smart contracts", notre jeu est "provably fair", ce qui veut dire que vous pouvez vérifier vous-même les probabilités pour gagner sur chaque jeu. Le "house edge" pour nice2win est de 1%, ce qui extrêmement bas.

La plateforme est compatible sur mobile, tablette et ordinateur. De plus, le site sera bientôt traduit en français et chinois.



Les preuves?

Medium : https://medium.com/@nice2win
Dune Analytics (pour Optimism): https://dune.com/nice2win/nice2win-web3-casino
Twitter : https://twitter.com/nice2winDapp
Discord : https://discord.gg/GwuDax5RRW
Github: https://github.com/nice2win

Je met la roadmap ici pour les curieux: