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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Wallet on: January 28, 2023, 08:41:52 PM
> To Aanuoluwatofunmi :

I agree with you 100%, and I see nothing wrong with people doing what they want with their fund. But what bothers me is the fact that to get it in the beginning, it seems like you had to be part of PoW protocol, in order to be rewarded for your work of verification and security, in other words, to be a dev or to know one.
Of course I know the existence of the SHA-256 hash function.
I also understand the fact that you can't realize what you're doing at any given time, and that "some dont even know that their keys lies in the hands of the CEX, while others may know but never care because they believe in their reputation, while some never understand why they were into such at all". But it also seems that it was possible to buy bitcoins online on specialized platforms (CEX ?), physical terminals or in exchange for any good or service with a person who already had it.

And that's my whole problem: how would I have held my Bitcoins, without any computer skills, without any desire to sell it, loan it or trade it, ONLY wanted to exchange my fiat in BTC, WITHOUT any third party ?

(trust me, I know where I'm going, I know it takes several questions and messages, but you should never rush into your conclusions, but rather confirm them)
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Wallet on: January 28, 2023, 02:31:44 PM
> To Welsh : Big thank ! This is what i wanted to talk. Of course, as long the magical things don't exist, He probably just did what he did, step by step, like any other programmers.
If people starded to use this P2P System, why do others people started to go outside of the original way planned by satoshi ? ( Ethereum, MtGox, Bitinstant, QuadrigaCX )

> To Bettercrypto :
What is the theme of your story? What you want to convey is that to anyone who wants to own bitcoin, you advise that it is better to buy or hold it on decentralized platforms.

Yes, exactly. But i know that i'm not the only one to be saying that. But unfortunaly this is something I must explain to my surrounding everytime they want to know more about Bitcoin. Wink

3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Wallet on: January 28, 2023, 10:26:34 AM
> To solosanz : thank you for Bisq, i will take a look ! And i agree with you , CEX are quite defeating the Bitcoin fundamentals. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater tho.



> To Pooya87 : as i see, you seem to not understand what i ask.
I said that so many people have been stolen because they gave money to someone in the idea of profit. There is nothing new about it. Cupidity always existed.

My question is : How Satoshi planned the way you hold your bitcoin, while not being a dev or someone without technical capacity ?

More ,you're saying the same as me : "The adoption is increasing and that means more demand". Means no one can touch bitcoin, but everyone can exchange.
Im new to Bitcoin and if i only knew guys like you, i would cerainly never discovered Bitcoin.

All i asked is a link that could explain more RELIABLE infos (as you did finally).I seriousy thank you for your explications tho, and next time be kind, and keep in mind that people do what they can with what they found. Not everyone know as much as you Wink .
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Wallet on: January 27, 2023, 11:35:02 PM
N.B. : I am not a dev

Hello everyone, I’m just a random guy doing some research about Bitcoin. I ask some help for one thing :

If Satoshi did a “ Peer to Peer Electronic Cash System “, based on a decentralized system “ which provides strong control of ownership “, it certainly comes with a way to keep your bitcoin safe INCLUDED in the Bitcoin protocol/Bitcoin Core ? (N.B.).

What makes me think that, is :
First, he had to detain some Bitcoins. Same for the first miners and receivers.
From there :
Satoshi only wanted to build this P2P ECS, and the economy/detention was not a question for him/her/them/Cypherpunk(s) ?
I know that if you have your key, you have access to your Bitcoin. But something is wrong for me….
How was it possible to have bitcoin, except from mining or receiving  ?
I read a lot that the only way to have some, in the early era (and still), was to buy them on a CEX.
How and why did people start to give their keys ?

I mean, I can't sleep anymore since the moment I understood that all the first “ Crypto GODS “, after research,  had certainly understood that they can’t touch/manipulate Bitcoin, but can manipulate people's minds. Telling them, send me $, i'll buy and keep your funds to make some profit of it, until the day you ask me for it. ( it sounds like an old song).

I also tried to find something that could allow me to not only own my BTC, but to send/hodl/buy/sell it by my OWN way. Very often I found that you must have to give your keys at a moment, and then, still have trust... (N.B.)

I know that I have a lot of questions, so I spend all my daytime to know more about Bitcoin. Maybe someone can send me a link, a book or anything that could help me.

Thank you to everyone for your time.

scio me nihil scire.
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