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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 28, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
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I think that it is site strategy, with fake reason block players and do not pay.
I do not have any reason to make fake document, if i have real passport.

I know that this case has been solved and did not necessarily need further "resolution", but I'd really love if we can tie all loose end and straigthen every sides. Have you or can you tried getting back in touch with AskGamblers? Their verdict here is no longer correct and now actually rather misleading as the verdict has a tendency to cast an impression that you cheated TD while the fact is the opposite



One other thing that I found funny, though, is how TD very quick to jump to announce the verdict by AG that they're the right side for your case a month ago, but never bothered to straigthen the fact once the different final and ultimate ruling is made by CG

I do not want to have any discussio with askgamblers, then WANT and only TRY TO FIND the way to reject complaint and way how to fast closed it with "reject".
When i asked, i said, that i can make photo, make video with my passport, askgambers said that they do not need it, that casino alreasy sent them proof that my document are fake. Askgamblers only want to take money like affilate.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 28, 2023, 10:02:02 AM
Here's the case summary from CasinoGuru:
https://i.imgur.com/2CIhimf.png

Massive props to CG. This case was a trainwreck, but they did a great job.

In other words, TrustDice lied that OP submitted to them fake documents. I think people should take not of this.

And I saw similar cases of other people complaining that their accounts were blocked because they submitted "fake documents"

What are the chances that this might be an excuse to get hold of their money, like it was in OP's case. I don't think I can Trust this Trustdice casino. The risk management team need to stop making false claims.

The problem lies deeper than simply lying about OP submitting fake document, this said document were sent by TD to CG as per the mediator request and verified that it was fake, they probably not expecting the mediator to double verify by giving OP chance to prove the legitimacy of the document by sending another one, from OP's own side, which later proven to be untampered.

Question: who tampered the first document, then? The document received by CG from TD is proven to be tampered. I can't imagine OP would be so bored and have way too many free time at hand that he decided to send a fake document so he can take a lengthy and exhausting procedure.

The massive props is to the mediator, Nikolas who had the initiative to ask evidences from both sides.

If, by any chance you're reading this, Nikolas B. of Casino Guru, I tipped my hat to you.

I think that it is site strategy, with fake reason block players and do not pay.
I do not have any reason to make fake document, if i have real passport.
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 26, 2023, 08:44:39 AM
Today, after two months passed. Casino Returned my winnings.
Just think, to withdraw money you need to waste 2 months.
As if the deception do not happened. But to withdraw money from casino for 2 months through a complaint from a third party...
I do not thing that if someone will read this, he will choose to play this site.

I do not recomment to play TrustDice, to withdraw money i made notarised documents, video verification. And waiting 2 moths to get a conclusion and withdraw.

2 points  from 5
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 20, 2023, 08:28:38 AM
i provided them link with apostiled my passport details. More then month ago. So it is funny to make video call. I think everyone understand that this is time wasting

TrustDice is SCAM CASINO
After i made KYC and provided all documents. INCLUDING NOTARISED DOCUMENTS, this casino still not withdraw money.


DO NOT DEPOSIT MONEY TO TRUST DICE CASINO
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 20, 2023, 07:49:30 AM
I can see that CG took a wise step by encouraging TD to do another video call. I'd like to advise you to use this occasion to ask in details what things would TD want you to show during the video call and to arrange it to a time where you're free so you can provide things they want you to show. Ask that on CG so there's a written proof that you've asked in details about what they require, so if they sprung something else that you can't provide --I hope we don't have to reach this point-- and it wasn't on their list, you have a written statement backing you up.
Don't be surprised if the next thing they ask from OP is a blood or DNA sample. The casino or whoever is trying to "verify" OP are a big joke. Everything they are doing right now is just a delay tactic. It's over a month, and they are not showing any sign of ending the dispute just yet.

I gave up on them.

I am beginning to believe that most of the other negative ratings about them on Trustpilot might be true

Ye, this casino are epic scammers, and they know, i send them link with laws, that passport can not be notarised. But they still ask this Cheesy They found what can not be made, andd ask for this moment Cheesy When i already show them by link from latvijas notars site, like they asked.
So this was again fake, they asked something, i show it, but do not receive money, they again and again ask something Cheesy

TrustDice is FAKE CASINO, SCAM CASINO, do not made deposits there.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 18, 2023, 07:40:18 PM
If casino want video call, and want to see something at this call, it is logically that say what exactly. Take passport and approvment of adress to video call.
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 18, 2023, 07:24:29 PM
It is okay to make video call. But after i provided Notarised approvment of my passport, i do not knowed that i need to again show it. But it is not problem to show it. Why casino do not said what i need to have at video call?
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 18, 2023, 06:01:30 PM
point 3. You know, video call was at 15:00 or 16:00 and i was away from my home.

point 2. Of course had photo. And casino cleary can see that my passport photo are same with me. At video call they also can saw me. I think this tricky casino only find some fake reasons...


Ok, thank you for the answer.

So to sum it up, the current situation is TD argue that the notarized document is probably not yours and someone else's instead because there's no photo on the certificate that could connect the passport to you, while there's actually abundant reference on that certificate that ties the issued certificate to the passport, and a photo of you on the passport file you previously sent as KYC that they can use to match and validate the ownership of the passport and the notarized document to... "the attendee". You might want to point this out to CG to invalidate the argument below,

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Also note, the Latvijas Notars certification papers do not have a person's photo on it. So here we can't rule out the possibility that the certified passport belongs to another person, other than the attendee, and that the photo there is an entirely different person, not this attendee. On this, we have a specific suspicion and we have sent the details to your email.

Second, and I should have start with this, you might want to make it clear that instead of didn't have the passport, you simply didn't bring it during the video call because they didn't tell you the purpose of the video call and what to bring, so you left it, not knowing they'll asking you to show it again. There is a fine difference between "doesn't have the passport" and "doesn't bring the passport" that could lead to a major misinterpretation.

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During the video call, the attendee claimed now he doesn't have the passport certified by Latvijas Notars with him and failed to present that passport.

So I am afraid we can't establish a direct relationship between the attendee and the passport certified by Latvijas Notars. Since the certified passport is absent in the video call, we can't rule out the possibility that it was another person's passport certified and given to the attendee or/and TrustDice account holder for this ticket.

If I may suggest, you could perhaps made a post on CG explaining this situation as above, so the mediator can get a better grasp of what's currently, and actually, happen, and ask for another video call, this time they specify what do they need from you.

i already asnwered, that if they want to see passport, make another video call. But they ddo not want to make another call. They say that i need to find "plausible explanation" why i do not had passport.

TrustDice is scam casino
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 18, 2023, 02:07:31 PM
i sent passport, selfie, passport video. notarised approvment that passport details are real. but TRUSTDICE SCAM CASINO again found some fake reason to waste time and confuse situation

Before I made a lengthy post to share my insight on the current situation, I'd appreciate if you could clarify further by answering my previous questions; (1) is there something on the notarized certificate that ties the document with your passport, (2) is there a photo of you on the passport, and (3) why can't you show your passport on the video call?

1. Of course, all visible data on passport, name surname, date of birth, passport number and other.
2. Photo of passprt can not be notarised.
3. I can not show my passport because casino do not said before. The date was set without my consent, after a very short time. I was not told that I needed to have something with me. I didn’t have a passport, the one who conducted the video verification said okay, but can you give me a document confirming the address? since I had a phone from which I can confirm the entrance to the bank, such a document was provided.

Also, after casino said that i "failed" to show passport, i answered, that ok, make new call i will bring it. Then ignore ...

Sorry for being unclear on point number 2. I was asking about your passport, not the notarized document. The original passport, that one you give to immigration officer when you board a plane. Does it has a photo of you on it? Pretty much sure it has because... which country doesn't? But I'd like to cover every ground. If it has, TD's claim that they can't be sure the notarized document is indeed belong to you is not valid since all they need to do is match the passport number written on the notarized document with the KYC file they had on you and the photo on that file with the person sitting in front of the camera during video call. From that point, it's very easy to make a connection that those files belong to the same owner or not.

As for point number 3, I assume correctly you had your video call somewhere away from your home so you can't just do a quick run to your bedroom and grab the passport?
point 3. You know, video call was at 15:00 or 16:00 and i was away from my home.

point 2. Of course had photo. And casino cleary can see that my passport photo are same with me. At video call they also can saw me. I think this tricky casino only find some fake reasons...
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 18, 2023, 11:26:22 AM
i sent passport, selfie, passport video. notarised approvment that passport details are real. but TRUSTDICE SCAM CASINO again found some fake reason to waste time and confuse situation

Before I made a lengthy post to share my insight on the current situation, I'd appreciate if you could clarify further by answering my previous questions; (1) is there something on the notarized certificate that ties the document with your passport, (2) is there a photo of you on the passport, and (3) why can't you show your passport on the video call?

1. Of course, all visible data on passport, name surname, date of birth, passport number and other.
2. Photo of passprt can not be notarised.
3. I can not show my passport because casino do not said before. The date was set without my consent, after a very short time. I was not told that I needed to have something with me. I didn’t have a passport, the one who conducted the video verification said okay, but can you give me a document confirming the address? since I had a phone from which I can confirm the entrance to the bank, such a document was provided.

Also, after casino said that i "failed" to show passport, i answered, that ok, make new call i will bring it. Then ignore ...
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: TRUSTDICE: up to $25 FREE BONUS [NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED] Forum EXCLUSIVE! on: April 18, 2023, 09:02:19 AM
This casino are TOTAL SCAM

I made deposit here. And won about 1500 eur more than month ago.

Casino asked for KYC. I sent all documents they asked. Then they write FAKE reason to block me, "Edited photos". Then casino FULLY IGNORED ME.
I wrote complaint at Casino Guru, where casino started to sent blackmarket site, and ssaying that i bought documents for 100 usd.
Then i sent notarised approvment that my passport are real.

Now casino still trying to find some fake reason to do not pay. TRUSTDICE is SCAM.

Casino have a lot of FAKE reviews at trustpilot. You can easy check it. 95% of reviews are from USA. Where people write that this is perfect casino, momentally withdraw. BUT IN REALITY: USD is restricted territory, and when REAL GAMBLERS try to withdraw money from "restricted territories" casino BLOCK them andd steal all money with deposits.

Also you can check, that REAL PLAYERS write a lot of complains. A lot with same reason are blocked. EDITED DOCUMENTS.

This casino WILL SCAM YOU.
DO NOT play here.
TRUSTDICE = SCAM
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 18, 2023, 08:56:53 AM
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Apparently, they are "Re-opening" KYC verification according to this screenshot

If I remember clearly, the trustdice team vehemently refused the suggestion of a video verification to prove if OP has forged the documents or not and now here were are even after proof was sent through the process they wanted

People should pay attention to how these folks are handling the situation.

I waited for CG to made their posts public and was hoping that it told us that the video conference went and serve a purpose like what I thought it would be: to have an interactive dialog with OP and clear things up. Should have known to grab my popcorn because the drama is far from end.

For anyone who won't bother looking at the dispute page on CG, this is their reply:

Hi [...],

During the video call, the attendee claimed now he doesn't have the passport certified by Latvijas Notars with him and failed to present that passport.

So I am afraid we can't establish a direct relationship between the attendee and the passport certified by Latvijas Notars. Since the certified passport is absent in the video call, we can't rule out the possibility that it was another person's passport certified and given to the attendee or/and TrustDice account holder for this ticket.

As a result, we have to consider this video verification as having failed. The recording of this video call has been sent over to you via email.

Also note, the Latvijas Notars certification papers do not have a person's photo on it. So here we can't rule out the possibility that the certified passport belongs to another person, other than the attendee, and that the photo there is an entirely different person, not this attendee. On this, we have a specific suspicion and we have sent the details to your email.

Thank you

TrustDice Team

OP, before I make any assumption, can you please tell us several things:

1. Does the notarized certification paper specify passport number or detailed ID like full name, DoB, address, etc. or other aspect that can tie the certificate to certain passport and to certain citizen?
2. Does the passport you sent to TD at the very first time --and later on, to CG-- has a nice photo of you on it?

If the answer for both question is yes, I can't understand how is it so difficult for their security team to calculate 1 + 1. All they need to do is matching the passport ID --or whatever identifier-- on the certification paper with the old passport file they had from your very first KYC.

The passport has your picture on it, they made a video call with you and can see your face. They have all the ingredients needed. If necessary, they could just simply open three simultaneous windows on their screen: the current video call, the old KYC file, and the notarized documents to match details on the passport. I think it's not that diffucult to find a string that connect the three data and draw a conclusion, whatever conclusion, from it.

But, for the sake of being fair, allow me to treat you with "guilty until proven innocent", is there a reason why you can't show your passport? I assume the video call happened at your home where you can leave the screen for couple of minutes to take your passport?

Yes, i totally agree with you, but they still want to confuse situation and waste the time. This Scam casino do not want to play 1500 eur. It is very small amount in our days. Small fake casino with fake reviews on trustpilot.
I think, casino asked notarised document, then they received it, if casino is fair, they received notarised documents, it is time to pay winnings, but they still want to find something to waste time.

Good that casino already have BAD REPUTATION at casino guru. I hope Casino Guru will not change something, may be decrease more. Because now we can cleary ssee that Trust Dice is total scam

Do not registred and make deposits at Trust Dice they will scam you
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 18, 2023, 08:50:03 AM
[...]
Apparently, they are "Re-opening" KYC verification according to this screenshot

If I remember clearly, the trustdice team vehemently refused the suggestion of a video verification to prove if OP has forged the documents or not and now here were are even after proof was sent through the process they wanted

People should pay attention to how these folks are handling the situation.

I waited for CG to made their posts public and was hoping that it told us that the video conference went and serve a purpose like what I thought it would be: to have an interactive dialog with OP and clear things up. Should have known to grab my popcorn because the drama is far from end.

For anyone who won't bother looking at the dispute page on CG, this is their reply:

Hi [...],

During the video call, the attendee claimed now he doesn't have the passport certified by Latvijas Notars with him and failed to present that passport.

So I am afraid we can't establish a direct relationship between the attendee and the passport certified by Latvijas Notars. Since the certified passport is absent in the video call, we can't rule out the possibility that it was another person's passport certified and given to the attendee or/and TrustDice account holder for this ticket.

As a result, we have to consider this video verification as having failed. The recording of this video call has been sent over to you via email.

Also note, the Latvijas Notars certification papers do not have a person's photo on it. So here we can't rule out the possibility that the certified passport belongs to another person, other than the attendee, and that the photo there is an entirely different person, not this attendee. On this, we have a specific suspicion and we have sent the details to your email.

Thank you

TrustDice Team

OP, before I make any assumption, can you please tell us several things:

1. Does the notarized certification paper specify passport number or detailed ID like full name, DoB, address, etc. or other aspect that can tie the certificate to certain passport and to certain citizen?
2. Does the passport you sent to TD at the very first time --and later on, to CG-- has a nice photo of you on it?

If the answer for both question is yes, I can't understand how is it so difficult for their security team to calculate 1 + 1. All they need to do is matching the passport ID --or whatever identifier-- on the certification paper with the old passport file they had from your very first KYC.

The passport has your picture on it, they made a video call with you and can see your face. They have all the ingredients needed. If necessary, they could just simply open three simultaneous windows on their screen: the current video call, the old KYC file, and the notarized documents to match details on the passport. I think it's not that diffucult to find a string that connect the three data and draw a conclusion, whatever conclusion, from it.

But, for the sake of being fair, allow me to treat you with "guilty until proven innocent", is there a reason why you can't show your passport? I assume the video call happened at your home where you can leave the screen for couple of minutes to take your passport?

i sent passport, selfie, passport video. notarised approvment that passport details are real. but TRUSTDICE SCAM CASINO again found some fake reason to waste time and confuse situation
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 12, 2023, 07:37:12 AM
After all kyc passed with notarised documents. Scam Casino TrustDice asked for video verification.

Everyone need to know that this casino will waste the time and find any way to do not withdraw money.
Kyc passed what inforamtion casino want to know after 40 days passed from my gaming expirience? Of course trying to find any fake reason to do not withdraw.

TRUSTDICE CASINO = SCAM
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: TRUSTDICE: up to $25 FREE BONUS [NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED] Forum EXCLUSIVE! on: April 08, 2023, 09:57:42 AM
Welcome on board!

Now I am close to the minimum deposit requirement of 0.001 BTC.
Forgive me but we don't have a minimum deposit requirement at all


Thank you for your answer! I apologize for not being specific with my previous question earlier. What I meant to ask was : what is the minimum deposit required in order to make a withdrawal? I attempted to withdraw funds but my request was declined and I now understand that I need to deposit at least 0.0005 BTC in order to withdraw normally? I hope I’m right. Beside that I would like to know if it is possible to withdraw my balance while keeping my deposit given that you require 5x wagering.
 I am sorry for asking so many questions, but I need to be clear on these matters and some things aren’t that clear.



I was surprised to receive a message when I tried to log into my account again tonight i have got this message "Login failed. Your account has been banned. Possible reasons: duplicate accounts, fraud, cheating." At first I thought that I may have had an old account that possibly caused the issue but I checked my other email addresses and did not find any previous accounts. Could you please clarify the reason for this ban? My username is Gxstxv. Im Pretty sure that i didn’t break any of your rules at least not in purpose.

YOU was SCAMMED by this casino.

Fake block reasons which are used by this casino, now are proven.
My expirience they blocked my account with reason FAKE DOCUMENTS.
Now i proved my documents are notarised. And they ignore situation.

Trust Dice is SCAM CASINO 100% PROVEN
16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 08, 2023, 05:14:41 AM
One more casino SCAM casino defender.

This Scam casino banned me with reason FAKE DOCUMENTS.

now are 100% proven that documents are not FAKE.

SO NOW CLEARLY CAN SEE THAT CASINO USE FAKE REASONS.

Of course they will now create new facts about cheating or something like that. But BAD REPUTATIO at CASINO GURU. AND FAKE REASONS NOW IS 100% VISIBLE FACTS.

TRUSTDICE CASINO = SCAM
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 07, 2023, 11:40:51 AM
When i approved my documents you think they will withdraw winning? Of course NO. They will try to create another "fact" why not to withdraw.

TrustDice Casino SCAM
There is now a 3rd-party with CasinoGuru that is looking into the provided documents as well. They have a say, and will comment on the authenticity of what you gave them.

In the first instance, the ruling didn't go your way. Both CasinoGuru and AskGamblers ruled in the casino's favor. I think it was CG that mentioned that they think the provided KYC documents were edited. Two things could have happened:
1) You edited and submitted fake documents
2) TrustDice manipulated and altered the documents themselves

This isn't something a neutral party can possibly know. Only you and TrustDice know what you did and didn't do.

If TrustDice continues to claim that an (allegedly) authenticated document by an official notary is fake, but CasinoGuru says it's real, and the notary has verified it with his signature and stamp, then the casino is the guilty party here. However, if both sides come to a conclusion that you presented a false document, you will lose the benefit of the doubt.

As someone who has tagged this casino in the past for lying and taking money that doesn't belong to them, I have no problem doing it again.

Uhh, I think the current situation here is that OP already had the documents notarized and thus proven to be legitimate, hence their reply that OP "quoted"; TD had also --now-- acknowledged that the document is legitimate, and they will try to reach OP personally. Emphasize on "personally", as in taking the case away from CG's supervision. I wonder why.





OP, have you got in touch with them as per their last statement on CG?



Casino TRUSTDICE do not contacted me. Account still closed. Another fake reason coming soon Cheesy

Trust Casino is SCAM casino.
Now 100% proven that reasson about FAKE DOCUMENTS ARE TOTAL FAKE REASON.

Go away and do not deposit your money here.
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: TRUSTDICE: up to $25 FREE BONUS [NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED] Forum EXCLUSIVE! on: April 05, 2023, 03:31:02 PM
https://casino.guru/trustdice-casino-review

This casino already have BAD REPUTATION at casino guru.
Fake reason to steal money from players.
Fake reviews on TRUSTPILOT site. 95% reviews from USA. WHICH ARE RESTRICTED TERRITORY TO PLAY.

Do not play here

TrustDice scam casino
Avoid this casino and play recommended casino by Casino Guru.
19  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: my expirience on site Trustdice.com SCAM on: April 05, 2023, 03:23:21 PM
OK, the CasinoGuru website is up and running again and I can see the latest updates. All parties have confirmed they have the needed documents and TrustDice now has 7 days to respond and make a decision. I doubt the OP would have jumped through all these hoops if he wasn't telling the truth. But that's my subjective interpretation of the whole incident. Let's see.
 

Casino already watched my documents. And answered:

YESTERDAY
Hello everyone,



We are glad that the player has provided an official verification by Latvijas Notars.

Our Risk Management department will be in touch with the player for the further steps.



Thank you.

TrustDice Team


Thiss is theirs answer. When i approved my documents you think they will withdraw winning? Of course NO. They will try to create another "fact" why not to withdraw.

TrustDice Casino SCAM
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: TRUSTDICE: up to $25 FREE BONUS [NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED] Forum EXCLUSIVE! on: April 05, 2023, 02:21:46 PM
fragoso21

You are scammed like me. Next steps, you will provide Documents and casino will say that documents are fake. Same situation with me, i provided notirised documents and now they find another way to scam me.

TrustDice casino is SCAM casino
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