I am going in the path of patenting this. The Dutch lawyers were much more encouraging than the French ones. I have deposited my paper on i-depot (boip.int) number 148286. So I don’t know if this thread is still relevant.
Once the patent application is filed, I think more people will be interested to take a free look now that they no longer have to commit to anything unless after seeing my system.

Again, thank you for @shield132 for the idea.

I am going in the path of patenting this. The Dutch lawyers were much more encouraging than the French ones. I have deposited my paper on i-depot (boip.int) number 148286. So I don’t know if this thread is still relevant. I’ll post this info on my other thread where I was offering money.

These are real questions, and the only one who can answer them would be the owner who would be interested in this.
Although, it’s just common sense that the complexity involved in provably fair is a real problem for many users, and in some cases where it is badly implemented favors cheaters. By solving this problem my system would make players flee the cheaters and use a simpler form, with casinos who already weren’t cheating.


Thank you my friend.

I got an appointment with a lawyer from Curaçao. We’ll see, if I can really patent it in Curaçao, I’ve hit the jackpot. I’ll ask her that question about what can I do if not possible.

Edit 24/08: funny that, she gave me same advice as you, consulting a lawyer from the Netherlands.

Nice suggestion. I will try to consult a Curaçao lawyer.



Why not, the offer was basically for the businesses who are already in the casino industry, but I am open to discussions if he has ideas, he can send me a pm here or on telegram.

Are you sure just a user? I think they are many.


Do you think you’ve solved that user problem by giving him a third party tool that he should trust to verify his bets, and he doesn’t even understand how provably fair even works? If you answer no, then you need my system.

Thanks for coming in and for the advice, I’ve answered on telegram



For example, below is a problem my system solves. With my system, you’d need 10x more ignorance to say such a thing:

I’ve checked your link, pretty cool stuff. I’m not a businessman though (at least not yet), I’m not sure I want to start and operate an online casino, or to reveal my system for everyone to see.

I am increasing the reward for the time spent to draft the agreement to 5000 dollars. The wallet in the OP will receive an additional 2501 USDT by next Wednesday august 21st. Nothing changes elsewhere in the process.

I received no response from the contacts of the online casinos I sent messages to, I’ll update them once I add the money.

I wouldn’t do this except if it’s the only way, but I hope this works though, @Stalker22 answered on this. The 2500 is not to impress the executives, it’s to show seriousness and to distinguish myself from the masses. What average person is willing to throw 2500 just to get someone to draft an agreement with no further commitment if the product is not used?

Pretty interesting and useful posts in the last day! @Stalker22, you are correct on everything you said, you’ve carefully followed my thread!




I’ve consulted many lawyers in my country, I’ve searched it and thought about it big and large, and I can’t do #2, so #1 falls apart and everything else. No one should know about my system without prior agreement. I doubt in Curaçao it would be different, but if the casino somehow manages to patent it I’ll get additional benefits though.

« a) » is the problem my system solves. The respected casinos correctly implementing the provably fair games do not distinguish themselves very clearly from those who don’t. I know for a fact that if you’re careful enough you can’t be cheated on Stake, but that requires coding knowledge and some work to understand the system. I’ve also checked Rollbit, and that was not the case, since they were showing game hash only after result, I’m not sure if they fixed this since I checked, but you get the point.

And no problem I decide I am working on trust, if the casino takes the 2500 without drafting the agreement, I would be mad but wouldn’t lose sleep over it, and will start again! This would be very unlikely though since I am expecting large offers small casinos won’t be likely to make, and no big casino would damage their reputation for 2500.

Yes I posted here before transferring the money to prove the wallet is mine. Most posts here though are useless I just ignore them.

Thank you. You also have my telegram as well (I sent you a message). The funny part is that I think they probably don’t believe me. But no problem, from my side I’ll do my best, and even if I got a deal and at the end the casino wasn’t interested, I think it will be worth the 2500 usd, at least I’ll make peace with this (but unlikely to happen).

Try though to contact big casinos, more likely that I’ll be accepting their offer, but I’m open to any suggestions anyway.

Yes, my system is so simple it can be provably fair by exchanging some messages.

Please PM your telegram (checked your profile and couldn’t find it)

Hello,
It’s been a while I claimed to have discovered a new way for implementing provably fair system, that is both easier for the player to understand and to verify. I believe my system solves big problems, the biggest one being the doubt a high rollers can have about being cheated, especially for their biggest bets.

The initial discussion is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464581.msg62748057#msg62748057

Now, I am deciding I am paying the casino who is interested 5000 dollars (upfront) for the time that it could spend to draft our agreement. Afterwards, the casino gets a free look at my system, and then either decides to implement it, in which case our agreement should be executed, either they decide not, and nothing binds them further.

My wallet, that has  0  2503 USDT now, will receive 2503 2501 USDT at most in 2 days so by wednesday 21st of August: https://etherscan.io/address/0x2fbfb67dcb312faaf94788891a4c1a545dc5cf5b#tokentxns

No contract is required to pay that 5000 dollars, I’ll just keep it on trust. No strings attached. Although, before doing so, I’d like to only exchange a few words about what type of agreement we should have beforehand, because it wouldn’t be possible for me to send 5000 USD to everyone, and discover later that they wouldn’t give me a penny for using my system.

That’s it, don’t hesitate to contact me by pm or post here for any questions. Have a nice week.

Edit 24/08/24:
I am moving from USDT to PAXG, better to have them in ounces of gold, the usd is losing value fast. The wallet has 0 now but will receive 2 PAXG (= 2 ounces) by tomorrow or at most on Monday august 26.

Edit 29/08/24: My coins got stuck at phemex trying to buy PaxG, but they’ll pay back the money to my wallet within 15 working days. For the time being also, exploring the possibility of patent, so I am suspending this campaign. If I come back, I’ll be adding more money, for the current offer I only received one uninteresting suggestion

I’ve read the replies since my last message. I find these (surprisingly) not to be shitposting, people have actually (in most cases) taken the time to understand the subject.

It is rather logical to think that well they trust their employees who worked hard for years on this rather than a « beginner » like me. Or others who say well there’s a small chance I discovered something, or that I should expose my system for free without any expectation of getting any reward from it.

All of these ignore that once I expose my system no one needs me anymore to implement it, and that such systems can’t be patented, and that all I ask for is some sort of agreement with the casino before exposing my system for free. My system solves a real world problem where a lot of (especially big gamblers) will no longer believe or have doubts they’re being cheated.

Anyway, I’ll still come here from time to time, who knows, someone might actually take me seriously at some point!

Here’s something new: I will pay the casino’s legal team their time to draft the agreement, up to 2500 dollars, payment upfront. I will soon create a new thread with the link to my wallet containing 2500 USDT, up for payment.

Still available. My provably fair paper has been sitting on my computer for a few months now.

Nobody should be afraid as long as they get a free look at my system without any prior engagement of implementing it.

I think the main reason for them not being interested is that for most they don’t even believe that such a thing is possible, or how can I come up with it and not their specialized teams.

Hey there. That is not true, you only have to define a Client Seed once, that is truly random, and you’re good to go practically forever. You’ll only have to verify that your current game matches the nonce for your game round, which is easy to do, though not very practical for those who make very large number of bets, but easy to do for those who want to place large bets and make sure they’re not being cheated for any of those bets.

I’ve read what has been said since my last post, and I can say this about getting a « no ». The most weird thing about this « no » is that I am not trying to get any money to sell my system, but will reveal it for free, and only get paid s pedefined amount agreed upon, ONLY IF the casino decides to implement it. It shouldn’t take their legal team more than a few hours to send the contract. I had some hopes when an executive from BC.Game was interested in this but he ended up shrugging me off. And I am a very highly qualified person, it’s not like you’re talking to some idiot or something. It is what it is, at this point I pretty much can’t do anything about it, unless if at some point I open my own casino and become successful.

Yes I saw Nftfi. Weirdly enough, my sportsbots didn’t appear for collateral as a loan! But you know what, better be it. Who knows something might happen (I hope not) to the lender and I might never get them back.

The funny thing is, just before I reply here, I got refund from taxes, 777 of the currency of my country, same number as one of my 2 NFTs.

My salary

Hey there FatFork, thank you very much this answers my question! Unfortunately I don’t have any merits to give.

Hello,

At the time I got into crypto, there was only ledger and trezor as hardware wallets. Veterans explained to me that the most secure way to store crypto was to use a cold machine and use usb keys to sign those transactions. I figured out a better way. Here’s a telegram message dated back from 14th of September 2020 that I wrote:


Now can anyone tell me of an earlier use of this method?