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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Double Your Bankroll Challenge: What’s Your Strategy? on: Today at 10:26:32 AM

GO to BAccarrat go all in at once.  just another option.
Baccarrat seems more like a slow grind game vs all in for 1 hand. If for nothing else I would probably rather grind it out for the entertainment value vs the adrenaline rush of the 1 hand. The goal is to double, not pray to get lucky right?
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: TabLeague - BBCode Football Tables on: Today at 07:15:10 AM
Do you think it makes sense for this topic to stay here on this board, or should I move it to another one? It's quite possible it could get lost here...
It does have to do with gambling so it needs to be on 1 of the boards, I would say this board as it's more a discussion than a website. You're right it could get lost here though as it takes less than 30 minutes and a thread can go from the top to page 2. Just bump it from time to time and should be fine as others will be posting and bumping who are interested.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does being overwhelmed in gambling worth it? on: Today at 05:00:58 AM
Yeah, this is what I am trying to say; there are people who stake (book) and after several moments the match goes of even at their loses the game was running til to running.
While gaming we should pick only the amount we can control whenever it's becoming too heavy for us to carry inside the community.
The post is kind of hard to understand, at least the 1st sentence. I assume you're talking about only gambling with an amount you can afford to lose? If betting becomes too stressful for you, take a break. Sports will always be there so it's not like you have to stay away forever, just take a break until you can mentally handle it again.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake stole $6500 from me on: Today at 03:51:33 AM
Would you mind sharing screenshots of your conversation with their support as evidence to back up your claims?

Just curious, did you use a VPN, use someone's internet, or did someone use your internet? I've seen cases before where the gambler was accused of multi-accounting because of using a VPN, using someone's internet or someone using their internet when gambling at the casino.

Also, their representative hasn't addressed issues posted here against their casino for a while now. I'd suggest also posting a complaint on casino.guru, they might respond there.
I can't recall the last time I seen a stake representative respond to a complaint. I'm not 100% sure but I think they prefer to handle things within their own support system/forum or through an official mediator like CG.

OP have you tried posting in their announcement thread and seeing if someone responds there?
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Double Your Bankroll Challenge: What’s Your Strategy? on: Today at 03:28:47 AM
Just curious how you guys would handle this one. Imagine you’re in a contest with $1,000 as your bankroll, and the only goal is to double it. If you manage to hit $2,000, you win $10k as the prize.

Now here’s the catch.. no hedging, no shortcuts. You gotta play it straight.

Would you just slam the whole $1,000 on one bet and hope it lands, or would you grind it out little by little, managing your bankroll like a pro?

I wanna see if people here are more “all-in or nothing” types or the careful, percentage bettors.
I'm headed to dice and looking for x100 multis with an increase on loss of 1.18% reset on win. Starting with a .1 base bet and letting it roll. Obviously not a guaranteed strat that will win, but I have had some good runs using this strat. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'd say better than a 50% chance of getting close to a double if I let the bot run. Maybe if I get halfway there I might start trying a few large live bets on football since the season is starting in college and the NFL.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: Today at 03:11:52 AM
OK, Guys I have thought of a solution !!!!

We draft on Yahoo as we have done every year.


And then We play the season On sleeper!


That way we have the best of both worlds, you guys can use the app to set your lineups and we can have a draft where we can setup pre draft lists and see the damn stats for the players!
Why is this becoming complicated? Should be as simple as setting it up and setting a draft shouldn't it? What does a pre draft list have to do with anything if you are there for the draft? Make a spreadsheet if you need to and mark off who's taken or am I missing something?

I have no plans on winning I just wanna play. I haven't finished better than 10th yet. Whether it's on yahoo or sleeper IDC and I really don't see the difference. Both can be accessed from the phone, both can be accessed from a computer right?
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 29, 2025, 06:38:54 AM
Okay Gents,

Here's what I have for votes so far.  It's getting critical for the selecting draft date, but so far it's looking like Sleeper, keeping PPFD, adding Point per Sack Yard, and keeping kickers are in the lead.  If you feel strongly about something, please submit your vote.

I'll be out in the woods (hunting wabbits) until Monday afternoon, but in a pinch I can drive to a spot to get reception and join the draft.  Regardless, I vote for Tuesday evening Pacific Time for the draft.


Member || Commitment || Platform || PPFD || PPSY || Eliminate Kickers || Entry Fee || Draft Time
Hueristic || In || Yahoo || Yes || Yes ||Yes || 1.0mBTC ||Whatever is good for everyone
suchmoon || In || hates Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 500,000BTC ||
wheelz1200 || In || No Preference || || || || ||
nutildah || In || Yahoo! || Yes || Yes || No || ||
yahoo62278 || In || No Preference || || || || 0.5mBTC || Yesterday
bbc.reporter || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || This weekend
South Park || TBD || || || || || ||
Hhampuz || In || Sleeper || || || || ||
ChiBitCTy || In || Sleeper || No || || Yes || ||
morvillz7z || In || Not Temu || Yes || No || No || ||
DireWolfM14 || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || 2025.09.03 15:30EDT
seek3r || TBD || || || || || ||
|| || Result || Result || Result || Result || Result || Result
|| || || || || || ||




OK, guys we really need a draft time in stone soon so if anyone has a problem with accommodating DW's time then speak up otherwise I'm fine with it.

I think we need to make a deadline for checking in and I see no reason why it should not be Friday night 8/28 @ 9:pm EST.

IIRC in past years we have drafted on the Saturday before kickoff and that would normally be my vote but I have no problem holding off to accommodate anyone that can't make that time-frame.

So someone post the link to that sleeper league DW setup please, I'll check it out and make sure they have the stats correct this time.

EDIT: OK this does not give me the warm fuzzies I just went and tried to check sleeper out and recover my old account and after 10 frigging captchas it gave me this fucking ERROR. "Error: There’s an issue with your network. Please try again in 30 minutes."

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY MOTHER FUCKING NETWORK.

EVERYONE make sure you can get an account on that site, we need this done before hand as it looks like the majority is going to be to use it.
I clicked the link sent to me on here from my phone and got in the group with 0 issues. Hope you get it figured out.

So someone post the link to that sleeper league DW setup please, I'll check it out and make sure they have the stats correct this time.

EDIT: OK this does not give me the warm fuzzies I just went and tried to check sleeper out and recover my old account and after 10 frigging captchas it gave me this fucking ERROR. "Error: There’s an issue with your network. Please try again in 30 minutes."

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY MOTHER FUCKING NETWORK.

EVERYONE make sure you can get an account on that site, we need this done before hand as it looks like the majority is going to be to use it.

I just PM'd the link the group.  Click the link from a PC browser, and try logging in that way.  Sometimes phone app are finicky on rooted phones...  Yeah, I know how you are.

I agree that we should set a deadline for responding in the affirmative here, Friday night sounds good, so we can get our voting results in early.  @morvillz7z, can we count on you to set draft order again?
I sent a message in the discord as well so hopefully Seek logs on and sees it tonight.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: moneytree.games scam, steal 232 usdt on: August 29, 2025, 12:51:21 AM
The OP and his actions are not what I am really questioning here but rather the normal user. Me for example, if I see a game and decide to place a bet with no malicious intent, how am I supposed to know that I cannot or shouldn't bet on a certain match? If the provider offers it, it should be legal is where I am at.
Betting sites are obviously offering those games so that the user place bets on them. But they will consider your betting activity as suspicious if you place bets on those low tier matches only by skipping the major tournaments. Finally, they take action by doing some investigation of the users overall betting pattern.

So wouldn't it make more sense just to not offer those low tier games and avoid users taking advantage or being taken advantage of? I'm sure the OP is guilty so it's not that I am siding with him and your explanation makes sense if the user is only betting on the low tier games, but say they are betting on all tourneys/games, opens the platform up to be able to take a players money IMO.

IDK not the place for this discussion so I won't post again about it here, but I may open a thread later for discussion.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: El Salvador's bitcoin on: August 28, 2025, 01:05:08 PM
Not sure if this should be under bitcoin topic or here lol. But there have been platforms, namely kalshi's prediction market and polymarket, have listed similar bets about El Salvador's bitcoin holdings. Both platforms have listed that El Salvador will have a total of $1 Billion worth of bitcoin by the end of 2025. The odds are pretty interesting. Now Bukele has found out about this and seems to be hinting on social media. But do you genuinely believe El Salvador can magically get to a billion worth of bitcoin? They currently have over $700 Million. They would only need $300 million more. To me it seems a lot. To a country like El Salvador, that isn't easy money either. Would you bet on this?
Honestly seems like a slam dunk bet IMO. Already over 2/3rds of the way there and a little over 4 months left to get there. If they don't get there it'll be close as the country seems to be relying on bitcoin to save them. They're not gonna give up, they're motivated.
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: moneytree.games scam, steal 232 usdt on: August 28, 2025, 09:55:46 AM
~snip~ I was sure the OP was abusing the system in some way, but this seems a bit shady on your part IMO. How is the player at fault? How is the player at fault? I'm not saying he couldn't have been abusing or something but if you offer the game it shouldn't be the player who must know of the game is or can be rigged.
Odds provider covers the low tier tournaments by considering the demand of the users. All the matches of low-line tournaments aren't fixed. But fixing is a common thing at such tournaments. A group of people tries to take advantage of such events who get hints about the fixed matches from the match fixers.

OP was already limited on other sportsbooks with the same provider. He created an account on this platform to bypass his betting limit. So, it is double violation of the sportsbook rules. I believe you would have done the same thing if OP had done something on your sportsbook (if you had any). He will continue to take advantages on other sportsbook with Betby provider if he gets back his deposited funds and winnings everywhere.
The OP and his actions are not what I am really questioning here but rather the normal user. Me for example, if I see a game and decide to place a bet with no malicious intent, how am I supposed to know that I cannot or shouldn't bet on a certain match? If the provider offers it, it should be legal is where I am at.

If the site doesn't want users to bet on certain things then they or their provider should not offer the game IMO.

I was suspicious of the OP the whole time and he likely committed multiple violations against the site, I just don't like the reason they gave and find that sites can exploit that explanation and screw over legit players.
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BC.Game: Faulty Loss Limit Tools, Scammed Me Out of $1500, Outrageous Dishonesty on: August 28, 2025, 06:54:57 AM

 Is it not concerning

What I find concerning is the amount if time it takes to get replies. You posted this accusation August 21st and holydarkness starting getting in contact on the same day. We are now a week into this accusation and really not much further than we were a week ago. Someone asks a question, then we gotta wait for someone to get online and answer, and then again another question comes, and more wait time. It's comical honestly in this day and age. Almost like messenger services and telephones and faster communication of any sort never got invented. This case will be solved by December 2027 at this rate.

Obviously I know we will have answers faster possibly, but it does irritate me the amount of time it takes. @holydarkness no offense to you as you're doing a service to the community by using your time free of charge to help out, BC doesn't ever seem to be in a rush. I also realize that if you push too hard for answers, they may cease contact at all.

Need to find a faster way to communicate. Get the 2 parties online in the same message service and get to the bottom of things in a day vs 2 weeks.
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: moneytree.games scam, steal 232 usdt on: August 28, 2025, 05:00:00 AM
Hello, BitcoinTalk forum community!

Thanks to Albon for sending us a message. You said we confiscated the players' winnings without explaining anything. That is not correct. The support politely informed the reason.

The provider (Betby) flagged the player for low-line market betting (Something like a very low-line tournament, which can be rigged/manipulated) and instructed us to block the player. We followed the instructions. Usually, we do not disclose what our provider said. Sportsbook usually says the player was flagged by the provider, and they have violated some terms and conditions.

However, the player said he made several deposits, which is incorrect. He made a $30 deposit, and that's all.

The decision came from the provider and the team and cannot be reversed.
Thanks for your attention!

Max - MoneyTree Support!
I'll be honest here, I think that it's a shit reason to block someone as you offered the game. Seems like you would be the ones at fault here right? I have nothing against you or the site, but you cannot just make up reasons to ban/block a player. I was sure the OP was abusing the system in some way, but this seems a bit shady on your part IMO. How is the player at fault? I'm not saying he couldn't have been abusing or something but if you offer the game it shouldn't be the player who must know of the game is or can be rigged.

You guys could just come in and say this or that and the decision is final and noone can do anything about it.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 28, 2025, 02:39:44 AM
Okay Gents,

Here's what I have for votes so far.  It's getting critical for the selecting draft date, but so far it's looking like Sleeper, keeping PPFD, adding Point per Sack Yard, and keeping kickers are in the lead.  If you feel strongly about something, please submit your vote.

I'll be out in the woods (hunting wabbits) until Monday afternoon, but in a pinch I can drive to a spot to get reception and join the draft.  Regardless, I vote for Tuesday evening Pacific Time for the draft.


Member || Commitment || Platform || PPFD || PPSY || Eliminate Kickers || Entry Fee || Draft Time
Hueristic || In || || || || || ||
suchmoon || In || No Preference || Yes || Yes || No || 500,000BTC ||
wheelz1200 || In || No Preference || || || || ||
nutildah || In || Yahoo! || Yes || Yes || No || ||
yahoo62278 || In || No Preference || || || || ||
bbc.reporter || In || Sleeper || || || || ||
South Park || TBD || || || || || ||
Hhampuz || In || Sleeper || || || || ||
ChiBitCTy || In || Sleeper || No || || Yes || ||
morvillz7z || In || Not Temu || Yes || No || No || ||
DireWolfM14 || In || Sleeper || Yes || Yes || No || 0.5mBTC || 2025.09.02 15:00EDT
seek3r || TBD || || || || || ||
|| || Result || Result || Result || Result || Result || Result
|| || || || || || ||

We got 8 days til the season opens so SPEED IT UP!!! I vote for .0005btc fee, Draft now hahahaha(soon as possible), and everything else who cares. Send the link to join, and addy to send to, LET'S GO!
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: moneytree.games scam, steal 232 usdt on: August 27, 2025, 11:35:11 PM
I have tried sending a message to their representative’s account on the forum [moneytree.games], whose last activity was on July 30, 2025.

Hopefully, he will see my message, review your topic, and come here to clarify the reason for their actions more clearly, by providing specific reasons and evidence, and also try to help as you mentioned that Roobet or BC.Game have the same provider and you never had any issues with them.

By the way, since you used to play on Roobet and BC.Game without problems, what made you decide to try moneytree.games instead?

Hello!
They limit after some time on sports like everybody else
This right here tells me that I am correct in my assessment. You have left the reputable platforms because you got limited but what you fail to consider is that other platforms use the same odds providers and you are actually limited on all platforms that use that odds provider. You can't just switch sites and everything is ok. They know who you are.

Now while I don't think that players finding value or protecting(arbitrage betting) their money is exactly illegal, sites disagree and are looking to take the edge away, so you risk your money by betting in a way they disagree with. Sportsbetting doesn't seem to be your unlimited money glitch, just gonna find yourself constantly banned.

15  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: moneytree.games scam, steal 232 usdt on: August 27, 2025, 12:44:51 PM
I have tried sending a message to their representative’s account on the forum [moneytree.games], whose last activity was on July 30, 2025.

Hopefully, he will see my message, review your topic, and come here to clarify the reason for their actions more clearly, by providing specific reasons and evidence, and also try to help as you mentioned that Roobet or BC.Game have the same provider and you never had any issues with them.

By the way, since you used to play on Roobet and BC.Game without problems, what made you decide to try moneytree.games instead?
He probably got limited and started looking for a new site to play on. Not saying he cheated or whatnot but why else go from reputable or semi reputable sites to basically unknown?  Just look at his post history, huge history of scam accusations against many casinos. Kinda like the boy who cried wolf at this point.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Active Casino/Gambling Forum on: August 27, 2025, 09:18:16 AM
What are some of the other active casino/gambling forums, like Bitcointalk? Feel free to share them here.
There is already a similar TOPIC being discussed in Meta. Might take a look there and get some forum leads. Not sure any other forum is really half as big as this 1 though and likely everyone with accounts here has probably made accounts on the other forum, so marketing opportunities that would be good for clients are very small. Just my 2 cents.
The thread on meta is about other crypto forums like Bitcointalk but this thread is about other gambling forums like Bitcointalk, that makes them to be different. Also from the discussion, you will notice that you can see some strictly gamblings forums listed here than the other thread that you referred Little Mouse to.

But I agree with the part that you said if comparing Bitcointalk with Altcoinstalks, Bitcointalk is far better because Bitcointalk has the highest traffic that is far higher than Altcoinstalks. The forum was trash before people on this forum teleported their account there. So people here makes the place good.
Pay attention to the bolded word. I didn't say the thread was the same or anywhere close to it!
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling and divorce on: August 27, 2025, 08:26:22 AM
is there a connection between gambling and divorce rate?

Research from the National Gambling Impact Study Commission and the Gambling Impact and Behavior Study indicates that divorce rates for those dealing with gambling issues are estimated to be around 40% for problem gamblers and approximately 54% for pathological gamblers.

i think the moment we hide our gambling habits from our partners that is the moment we will get in trouble because that is when trust crumbles and when you get in trouble in gambling and have to tell your partner you will be surprising them

not to mention some people also spend money from money that both the partners contributed in

so aside from gambling responsibly, will you agree that we should disclose our gambling habits or is it not the business of our spouses? does gambling really have the capacity to break up a marriage or a family?
Why would you feel the need to hide your gambling? The only people that are hiding it are losing their asses, very religious and going against beliefs, or just retarded. People need to be open and honest and find a partner that accepts them. Your actions directly affect everyone in your household, so your significant other needs to be aware so they're not blindsided.
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: Active Casino/Gambling Forum on: August 27, 2025, 06:32:18 AM
What are some of the other active casino/gambling forums, like Bitcointalk? Feel free to share them here.
There is already a similarTOPIC being discussed in Meta. Might take a look there and get some forum leads. Not sure any other forum is really half as big as this 1 though and likely everyone with accounts here has probably made accounts on the other forum, so marketing opportunities that would be good for clients are very small. Just my 2 cents.
19  Economy / Services / Re: EVO.io Signature & Avatar Campaign (FULL)(New Rates) on: August 26, 2025, 12:15:27 AM
Payments for the week were sent, no open spots currently. Not taking anymore applications at this time.
20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Winz.io confiscated my deposits and winnings in violation of their own terms on: August 25, 2025, 08:09:03 AM
Thank you for that, I really appreciate it.
I did receive a reply from the owner and he is having support take a look at this. Again, no guarantees of anything just keepin you in the loop.
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