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1  Economy / Reputation / Re: Likely low quality poster alts. on: May 03, 2024, 01:59:16 AM
Netral tag + report moderator = Case closed
2  Economy / Reputation / Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic on: May 02, 2024, 05:24:25 PM
That's an example of a DT who people say has a good reputation and can be trusted, but who commits stupid and anti-critical actions. So, is there still trust in people like that? I know not all DTs are like that, but Jolly has abused a lot of trust system

Making a thread like that and locking it isn't the worst crime in the world, and I think everyone is blowing that way out of proportion.  Yes, it was a breach of etiquette and the thread shouldn't have been locked, but it's not as though he stopped any discussion about BitcoinGirl.Club's trustworthiness.  He just made it impossible to discuss in his own thread.

If we talk about humanity then the worst crime is killing humans, if we talk about independence then the worst crime is colonialism, if bitcointalk is a discussion forum then the worst crime is prohibiting discussion (such as creating a controversial thread and locking it)

JollyGood has indeed shown a pattern of poor judgement when it comes to using the trust system, which is why I had him excluded way back before I wiped my trust list entirely.  In fact, I just realized that when I made a new trust list not too long ago, I forgot to exclude him from it--but that omission has now been corrected.  Last I knew, JG was trying to do some good on the forum and might still be; I haven't looked at any of the feedbacks he's handed out in probably a year or more, but though I don't think he ought to be on DT I don't think he's a malicious, evil motherfucker either.

And to those of you complaining about his wrongly-given trust, just ~ him in your trust list if you haven't already.  If enough members on DT do that, he won't be on DT anymore and his feedbacks won't carry nearly as much weight.  The whole DT system is a farce, but the inclusion/exclusion feature is a voting mechanism and problem DT members ideally should be weeded out through it.

For all these statements, I agree with you and as usuall you have a great view.
3  Economy / Reputation / Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: May 01, 2024, 10:37:38 PM
Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.

Very funny...  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Do you think the response is important? So you are giving OP advice on how to respond to yahoo62278? Then what do you do? you created a locked thread, you don't dare to argue with me in the thread I created. You always talk nonsense and are an arrogant braggart
Sometimes users know that it's a waste of time to respond to certain people.  There are some that like to engage in the arguments and those that don't want to argue unless they are arguing a point.

I wouldn't waste my time arguing on deaf ears in most cases.

Yes, I know about that and Jolly only comes to discussions where many members support him, or come to advise someone, without realizing the mistake he made.

I've tried to argue with him several times, but he always avoids it and doesn't want to admit his mistake. Members who don't want to admit their mistakes are the worst, that's what I know

I have tried to argue with him in a healthy way, but he doesn't respond well so I need to use harsher methods and make many people aware that Jolly is too selfish. I acknowledge you and your wise views, you are the best one in this forum
4  Economy / Reputation / Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic on: May 01, 2024, 10:29:13 PM
Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.

He is a controversial figure indeed but at this point in time I feel the positive contributions he added to the forum via his feedbacks outweigh the negatives, so he will remain in my trust list. Yes, you're still free to discuss what you want, nobody is going to argue with you about that.

Yes, it's your choice to trust him or not, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time until people's realize the mistake that Jolly made.

I acknowledge your abilities, lovesmyfamilies and several other members who have good abilities and views and are worthy of being DT. But for me it's still not for Jolly
5  Economy / Reputation / Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: May 01, 2024, 10:18:33 PM
Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.

Very funny...  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Do you think the response is important? So you are giving OP advice on how to respond to yahoo62278? Then what do you do? you created a locked thread, you don't dare to argue with me in the thread I created. You always talk nonsense and are an arrogant braggart
6  Economy / Reputation / Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic on: April 30, 2024, 03:28:46 AM
do you think Jolly's actions are correct and should be used as an example by other members?

Not always, no. But he was spot on when it came to his neutral feedback on you, the 1st left by anybody:

JollyGood    2023-07-05    Reference    This "PytagoraZ" account was created less than a month ago but seems to know a lot about the forum and members. I suspect a farm/alt-account trying to increase rank as fast as possible probably for signature campaign enrolment.

This feedback will be edited after his motivations become known.

I don't think there is anything that needs to be explained further because there is already an explanation in your thread about what actually happened between me and komisariatku.

An explanation that nobody believes.

Our relationship has also improved and I have compensated for the losses caused by my mistakes.

Congratulations



I don't hate you and you are still on my trust list even though you don't trust me.

Good. I don't hate you either; I don't hate anyone on this forum - there's nothing here that's worth getting that upset over - but anyone who lands on my distrust list does so for a reason.



Thank you for not hating me. I don't like Jolly because of the abuse he does, and the worst thing is when he creates threads to ruin someone's reputation and locks the thread. His bad actions were even imitated by other members, very bad

If I hated JG because of the tag he gave me, then you should be the first person I hated, but I didn't.

I guess you also don't agree with what JG did, but you chose to play it safe. So I'm here to speak out about his terrible actions



Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.
7  Economy / Reputation / Re: To JollyGood and Icopress, on: April 30, 2024, 01:46:49 AM
Sorry guys, this forum discriminates against small level members, so your posts don't get attention from popular members.

Wrong.  Smiley

JG has left you neutral trust, which should not affect you.  You can't demand he changes the way he thinks; all you can do is try to convince him through actions. 

I caught an escrow scammer once.  I sent a message to the scammer, and his main account replied seconds later.   He left the forum after I caught him, but then came back during my hiatus.   

I'm not demand him for the tag he gave me. I just don't agree with his mindset and behavior on the forum, I've tried to invite him to debate and discuss, but he always avoids it. JG is not the type of member who should be trusted. Nutildah is a person who makes me have a negative tag, but I recognize her ability and dedication, I trust her and am not angry with her at all.
8  Economy / Reputation / Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 29, 2024, 04:44:13 PM
[...]
You'd better worry about why you've turned into a vengeful troll who lies at every turn.
His was a lost cause a long time ago. Do not waste your time engaging with him (and especially not by advising him).

This is the 44th post in this thread but an interesting statistic is that 9 posts in this thread (equates to over 20%) were made by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming puppeteer. Those are very interesting statistics.

I see some similarities between the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll and another account that ended up getting multiple tags therefore ended by giving up on that account. I hope the sooner the other accounts operated by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll are accidentally revealed by him and receive tags as a response, the better.

Lol  Cheesy

Don't you have any good discussion material? you always repeat the same thing. Similarity? Come on, show me where my posts are located that are similar to komisariatku

But I'm sure you can't prove it, and of course this is your 34th bullshit. I challenge you to find my posting habits the same as komisariatku. just prove it, if you can't then you are just a braggart.

If you thought I would abandon my account because I couldn't join the campaign, you were wrong. I will always be here, watching your ridiculous behavior  Wink
9  Economy / Reputation / Re: To JollyGood and Icopress, on: April 29, 2024, 04:33:48 PM
So it's about Jolly again?

Sorry guys, this forum discriminates against small level members, so your posts don't get attention from popular members. And as for Jolly, I will continue to attack him here for his logical stupidity
10  Economy / Reputation / Re: Standing Strong Against Unjust Attacks: A Call for Community Support on: April 28, 2024, 11:46:32 PM
Here I am returning to this thread after some time out and surprise surprise, nothing has changed. I cannot read the posts made by JackpotRacer because he is on my ignore lists (as are BitcoinGirl.Club and the komisariatku and PytagoraZ accunt farmers).

It seems as though the blackjack.fun forum representative is going to have to overcome several trolls if they are going to have any chance of getting their messages across.

Oh, I see. I am glad to hear it. So I can make any statement for you. Unfortunately, komisariatku does not want to carry out a campaign about your abuse.
11  Economy / Reputation / Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic on: April 28, 2024, 09:32:42 AM
By the way, in your new account, don’t be so noticeable so as not to arouse Jolly’s suspicion, as happened with this account.
Although I'm sorry about what happened to you.

Alt account? Good advice, I don't have any at the moment. but maybe one day I will have it. lol

C'mon man, give it up. Its so completely obvious what happened with your komisariatku account. You (he) posted as komisariatku not just once but twice on accident, and you even told shasan that the accounts didn't know each other. LOL. I do not think you're in any type of position to call anyone a narcissist given how brazen (and annoying) you were as a "newbie," and as you refuse to admit you got caught slippin. That's a classic sign of a narcissist: the inability to admit when one was wrong.

Next time (and I have no doubt you've started a new account already), try to be more humble, and don't interject yourself in reputational matters that don't concern you... That's a dead giveaway that a newbie is an alt... Among other things, which I won't disclose as they are "proprietary trade secrets."

Of course there is no prohibition for me having an opinion in this forum, and do you think Jolly's actions are correct and should be used as an example by other members?

I don't think there is anything that needs to be explained further because there is already an explanation in your thread about what actually happened between me and komisariatku. Our relationship has also improved and I have compensated for the losses caused by my mistakes.

I don't hate you and you are still on my trust list even though you don't trust me. I don't care about other people's views because I have my own views. But for jolly? even he didn't dare to come here and comment because he knew his actions were something inappropriate
12  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: tolong aku on: April 24, 2024, 12:39:50 PM
Hei bro..

Ini forum diskusi, jadi yang perlu ente lakukan adalah berdiskusi. Semoga berhasil  Wink
13  Economy / Reputation / Re: Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 24, 2024, 12:19:27 PM
As a DT, replying because of a netral tag given to you is ridiculous, almost like abuse.
The neutral was not given to him but to icopress.

Really? really an overreaction. But actually that's normal, because logically it's better to support icopress because they get campaigns from him.
14  Economy / Reputation / Re: Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 24, 2024, 09:23:23 AM
I’m not following you. Which negative tag was given to me?
Please ignore this troll, this is textbook example of when to use magical ignore button in forum.
It is so stupid to assume that I am angry about anything for simply answering lies from other members (that also involved me).
I am not going to waste my time debating or answering anything with cheating liars, but everyone else can find more information about him in link below:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489102.0

Yes, you always had bad taste in arguing. Can you explain how neutral tags become negative tags? A ridiculous statement made by a member with 7000 merits.

I think everyone already knows about my case, do I need to bump thread nutildah for you?

This is my mistake. komisariatku and I come from the same city and we meet occasionally. I used his laptop when I met at the cafe and read many threads there, I didn't realize I was replying using komisariatku account. He scolded me for this, if you want to give a tag, please give it to me and don't give it to komisariatku
Do you also use each other old underwear and toothbrushes by any chance?
With silly statements and stupid pretending when talking to yourself like this you are only digging deeper hole for yourself.
Congrats on ruining your accounts, and I can't wait to see other alt accounts you used for cheating Tongue

Look at your comments, just useless nonsense. If komisariatku had not told me not to comment there, I would have argued with you for your faulty logic.
15  Economy / Reputation / Re: Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 24, 2024, 07:34:06 AM
As a DT, replying because of a negative tag given to you is ridiculous, almost like abuse. So the DT power you have is only used for personal gain.

I'm surprised a member like you went that far because you defended icopress, maybe because he always includes you in his campaigns. I respected you before and did not expect you to do such a reckless thing
I’m not following you. Which negative tag was given to me?

I think I made myself very clear and you are trying to pull me into more unnecessary drama (your signature and personal text tells me you are/have turned into a drama-based member), which I’m not really interested… good luck.

No, it's not about neg tag. But for your overreaction to the neutral tag you got.

Jollygood? Yes, he DT is the most abuse and has used unhealthy methods to destroy someone's reputation and it is inappropriate for such methods to be used. Someone needs to fight, if you don't dare, it's no problem. I am here and will fight to the death

I also don't drag you in drama, I respect you with the ninjastics you have, you are a member who contributes a lot to the forum
16  Economy / Reputation / Re: Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 24, 2024, 07:10:09 AM
Then why are you listing all the members who don't trust your judgment anymore, any why deceive people that icopress ordered everyone to do this?
That ''neutral'' post you wrote to him was actually negative in reality, as you directly blamed him that he mismanaged jambler campaign Tongue


Icopress got a neutral tag but you're the one who's angry? Come on, is this how you can continue to use in Icopress campaigns? Impressive way

Since when did the neutral tag become negative? Come on, you are a member of 7000 merits, don't be silly just to defend other people. @loyceV, I think you have explained the thread of trust systems very clearly, Looks like there are members who need to read it again

It seems like you were so angry about getting a neutral tag
I didn't? It wasn't me.

As a DT, replying because of a netral tag given to you is ridiculous, almost like abuse. So the DT power you have is only used for personal gain.

I'm surprised a member like you went that far because you defended icopress, maybe because he always includes you in his campaigns. I respected you before and did not expect you to do such a reckless thing
17  Economy / Reputation / Re: josephvname is a science hating fraudster. on: April 24, 2024, 02:02:49 AM
Good to know you are alive. I was missing you 😍
You mean his gibberish sense of writing? Hasn't it been smeared around enough that even a grail reader would ignore his ass? What an irony, Lmao! I never knew Bitcoingirl has such a good sense of humor  Tongue
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Idiots like this need to be banned from this site.
Says a user with 3 red fine tags that says nothing really different about his adversary.
I don't really think it's a good idea to become an imposter, Mr name -- for whatever reasons that's happening, Do you really think anyone takes y'all seriously??

He is a person who likes to debate and discuss, even though I don't agree with his thoughts, I always like people who like to discuss because this is a discussion forum.

There aren't many people like that on this forum.
18  Economy / Reputation / Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 23, 2024, 05:18:37 PM
What really bothers me is how some users thoughtlessly, seemingly without even thinking updated their default trustlist. First openly[1] and then in PM, icopress told everyone [that are in his campaigns, targeting those who are effected by Jambler's ban] to distrust BitcoinGirl.Club and they did. Why icopress did that? Because he did not like my detailed documentation for his lie on my face and the neutral feedback I left for him & Jambler team
Btw, Jamber is not a mixer.

I think I have missed a lot. Where did icopress openly told people to distrust you? Or you open indirectly told people to distrust you.

I was in Jambler campaign and icopress did not tell me to do anything. I do not believe icopress can even do anything like that. Because some users in Jambler distrust you, do not think icopress send them PM to distruct you. Some people do not think Jambler is a mixer and that you intentionally looked for ways to bring it down and you have succeeded in what could have been helpful for some members on this forum. It is like you alleged that icopress did something, bit if it comes out that it is not true, what trust should we give you? That should deserve a neutral or negative trust.

It looks like icopress supporters are starting to arrive. So you blame bitcoingrils for banning jambler? Where do you and several members get their income from? even though it violates the forum rules?

So what trust should we give you? ignoring forum rules about mixers for personal gain. That should deserve a neutral or negative trust.



If drug trafficking is prohibited, who will receive the harshest punishment in court, are the drug dealers or drug factory owners? Jambler is a mixer factory  Wink
19  Economy / Reputation / Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 23, 2024, 04:43:15 PM
I very disagree with your most recent neutral trust feedbacks, so I added you to my ~DT list. That's all.

It seems like you were so angry about getting a neutral tag that you went that far. Let's toast and Please, keep talking...

You got a *neutral* trust feedback from someone?



Please, keep talking...
20  Economy / Reputation / Re: BitcoinGirl.Club: How a condescending attitude equates to trust exclusion on: April 23, 2024, 02:00:43 PM
What really bothers me is how some users thoughtlessly, seemingly without even thinking updated their default trustlist. First openly[1] and then in PM, icopress told everyone [that are in his campaigns, targeting those who are effected by Jambler's ban] to distrust BitcoinGirl.Club and they did.

From what I understand, it seems you are trying to insinuate that icopress PMed members telling them to distrust you following the incident. That's a huge accusation, do you have proof of this?
According to what I understood from his post, he was trying to inform them that they will receive a PM from him informing them that they had been moved to different campaigns, after which they would change signatures.

I saw different members get enrolled in other campaigns without applying. It makes sense the PM was more of an alert to the concerned members that they had been accepted in other campaigns rather than asking them to distrust you. I stand to be corrected.

I don't think you or I can clarify anything, so there's no need to speculate. However, icopress did not deny the accusation. Let's see how this problem goes
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