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1  Local / Бизнес / Re: [ANN] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 19, 2023, 09:40:18 PM
Не уверен, что вы пытаетесь сказать здесь. Но мы не имеем никакого отношения к этому застройщику. Его наняла другая компания, а не мы. У него есть нерешенная проблема с этой компанией, мы пытаемся медитировать изо всех сил.

Многие пользователи Bitcointalk пользуются нашими услугами без каких-либо затруднений, и мы обещаем, что в будущем будем предоставлять еще более качественные услуги.
2  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 18, 2023, 11:29:31 PM
As we said before we regret this situation, however we have not hired this dev but thru a 3rd party development company. Nevertheless we will do our best to resolve this matter, after which we will return to this forum. Thanks everybody for your support we received.
3  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 17, 2023, 04:52:44 PM
Before creating more ANN threads, care to respond on a scam accusation that you are allegedly trying to dodge the payment for the guy who created your website?

Here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470574.0

Hi, we have received several messages about his. Unfortunately, this is a dispute between the developer and the company he works with, not with us. We paid our dues.
But nevertheless we are trying to mediate.
4  Other / Archival / [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 17, 2023, 03:59:38 PM
   Hello fellow bitcoiners!
  
Welcome to the official PayWithAnon Bitcointalk Thread!
  


   Today we introduce the world to the Anon Virtual VisaŽ Card.
   The Anon virtual card lets you spend over 5+ cryptocurrencies like cash online, worldwide.

   Purchase an Anon Virtual VisaŽ Card with crypto to pay online worldwide anywhere VisaŽ cards are accepted,
   cards are immediately available to spend.



    Key Features:

    Private: We will never ask for any identification or personal information
    Unlimited: You can create as many Anon Virtual Cards you need to match your spending needs
    High load limit: Send funds or receive funds from other Anon users, instantly
    Send and Receive: You can load an Anon Card up to $1.000 USD each.


    How it works

    Create an account: Create an account with only your email, no additional information required.
    Fund your balance: Fund your credit balance with over 5+ cryptocurrencies, crypto will be automatically converted to USD.
    Create A Card & Pay: Create a card in one click, cards are immediately available to spend. Use Anon cards to pay everywhere Visa cards are accepted, worldwide.


   Check it out today: www.paywithanon.com
5  Local / Бизнес / Re: [ANN] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 17, 2023, 03:56:33 PM
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6  Local / Бизнес / Re: [ANN] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 12, 2023, 03:30:28 PM

Спасибо, меня больше интересует возможность расплачиваться через POS терминалы, а не онлайн. Поэтому вижу , что на данный момент ваша карточка не для меня.

 У меня есть и физическая и виртуальная карточка от Wirex. И та и другая добавляется в кошельки смартфонов  и это очень удобно. Я добавил только виртуальную и использую её во время шопинга. А физическую с собой не таскаю во избежание её потери.

Подумайте об ускорении интеграции своей виртуальной карточки в Apple Pay и Google Pay.

Мы делаем все возможное, чтобы Apple и Google Pay были доступны, однако это требует очень много времени и требует одобрения многих партнеров. Но мы работаем над этим.


А по какому курсу они проводят конвертацию криптовалюты в доллары? Нет ли там ещё каких-то дополнительных потерь при конвертации?

При конвертации криптовалюты в доллары комиссия не взимается. Вы получите точную сумму в долларах США, которую вы введете. Мы рассчитываем обменный курс в режиме реального времени без каких-либо спредов или маржи.

И ещё один вопрос. Правильно ли я понял, что учёт баланса ведётся в долларах, и если я совершу покупку в грузинских лари, то с баланса спишется ровно столько долларов, сколько указано в официальном калькуляторе Visa на соответствующую дату, без каких-либо дополнительных комиссий? (Под калькулятором Visa я понимаю вот это: https://www.visa.com.ge/en_GE/support/consumer/travel-support/exchange-rate-calculator.html )

Это верно. Курс обмена валюты рассчитывается по визе. Мы не контролируем это и не взимаем никаких дополнительных комиссий.
7  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 12, 2023, 03:19:16 PM
So if we load the card with $1000 we lose $100 off the top? Seems like a pretty high fee if ya ask me. Why wouldn't I just use an exchange and send the money to my bank? 10% fee just to avoid KYC? 10% everytime I load the card?

In the longrun if you are looking to avoid taxes you would save money, but we still gotta trust you aren't going to take off with our money.


You have to pay 10% every time you load card with coins, this is what their website support told me.
Way to expensive for me.

Our fee of 10% is still a lot cheaper than our competitors like ezzo-card. They charge between 17 and 30%. As the volume rise, we will definitely be able to lower our fees in the future.


I've noticed many similarities between this product and PayWithMoon. Similar domain name, same brand colors, nearly identical terms & conditions with some slight rewording. Even the area where you show the logos of various stores accepting your card has the same logos as PayWithMoon's website. You only changed their order and have 5 logos instead of 6.

Why should anybody believe you are legitimate and not some copycat scammer ripping off an established brand?

Our platform is similar to PayWithMoon, however we offer more features. The terms are generic for this type of service and most of the time it's up-to the banks what should be included in the Terms of Service and approved by the banks. That said, our text, logo and platform are unique and are not similar to PayWithMoon.
8  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 06, 2023, 08:29:57 PM
We would love to waive the card creation fees for a couple of trusted members, let me know if you can suggest any members (our maybe yourself).
Thanks, but no thanks.
I won't suggest anyone to test your product, this is your job, and I see to many risks to test it myself with my own money.
After talking with support on your website I noticed a lot of typing errors, looks like one man ''team'' doesn't speak English very well.  

Can you tell us where your financial technology company is registered and located exactly?



Hi dkbit98,

I'm really struggling to find your point here. You don't suggest people to try using our service, you don't want to try our product and in the same sentence you tell us to try our own product.

Spelling errors happen, nothing wrong with it. Especially with our descent support team that is handling a much bigger volume than we expected.  (You yourself made some spelling errors)
We are based in Amsterdam, but the PayWithAnon service is brought to you by: Anon Services, Inc. (Located in the U.S.)
9  Local / Бизнес / Re: [ANN] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 05, 2023, 02:34:32 PM

Возникли несколько  вопросов.

Эта виртуальная карточка добавляется к   кошелькам  смартфонов Apple Pay и Google Pay? Если да, то какие тут ньюансы? Если нет, то это крупный на мой взгляд недостаток, над которым нужно работать для того, чтобы карточка получила признание ( например у меня  Smiley)

Почему выбран такой короткий период в 60 дней для её использования? Потом что , нужно новую карточку заводить? Очень неудобно на мой взгляд. Почему бы с вашей стороны  не расширить период использования хотя бы до одного года?

Hi satscraper ,

В настоящее время интеграция Apple Pay и Google Pay не поддерживается для наших виртуальных карт. Мы планируем добавить эту функцию в будущем, но у нас нет конкретного срока. В то время как вы можете использовать наши виртуальные карты для онлайн-транзакций там, где принимают карты Visa.

Срок использования в 60 дней устанавливается нашим банковским эмитентом для анонимных виртуальных карт и не может быть изменен. Мы благодарим вас за ваши отзывы о возможном продлении этого срока, но мы должны следовать политике нашего эмитента.

После истечения 60 дней вы можете удалить виртуальную карту, и любой оставшийся баланс немедленно становится доступным для создания новой карты, что предоставляет гибкость в управлении использованием вашей виртуальной карты.
10  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 03, 2023, 12:54:24 PM
As for the trials, that depends on what the rules set in place by the site are (even tho just being against TOS wont make it illegal).
As for deactivating the card, that will not do much as the damage will already be done at that point. Your only hope is that the abuse does not become wide enough that the card identifying numbers dont get banned.

To be honest, we don't expect to have any trials issue. If in a case we see an influx of trail fraud with a certain merchant, we will disable trails from that merchant so you can still shop at that merchant.
We don't think it will go that far. 9/10 we will receive notice from Visa when such thing occurs. 
11  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Spend Sats on: October 02, 2023, 08:15:31 PM
Love to share some tips, I would change the logo a bit to make it more "Modern" look at bitcoinwide. I would also change the font and try using bold fonts on titles. The current font looks a bit messy (could be my browser)
Also, nobody wants to sign-in with their wallet on a brand-new service. It does not matter that you can't access it, bitcoin is meant to be private, so users don't even want to share their bitcoin address.

I would also create an info page for each listing with additional information.
12  Local / Бизнес / Re: [Объявление] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 02, 2023, 05:58:52 PM

Так укажите это в своем FAQ чтобы люди не шугались когда видят такое. Я вот видите хотел десятку на карту а в итоге шиш в виде 1 доллара.. Да я понимаю что редко наверное кто то пополняет свой счет на такую мизерную сумму. Но вот видите попался такой человек Smiley Я просто хотел протестировать и не более.

Как так? Я ж не от фонаря взял эти цифры. Это картинки с вашего сайта. Если вы говорите, что в FAQ правильная цифра, то надо бы исправить в окошке при открытии карты 30 на 60, чтобы для людей это не стало неприятной новостью.


Привет, light_warrior,
Извините за путаницу, мы уже исправляем текст.




Большое спасибо за эти предложения, мы сразу же изменили текст. Вы крутые!
13  Local / Бизнес / Re: [Объявление] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 02, 2023, 04:56:08 PM
Абсолютно любим ваш краткий обзор, и спасибо за обнаружение этих проблем. Мы сразу их исправляем.

Вот некоторая информация для уточнения:

    Плата за создание карты составляет 10% с минимальной платой в размере $10 (для покрытия операционных расходов).
    Все карты истекают через 60 дней, а не через 30 дней.

Еще раз спасибо за выявление ошибок, и пожалуйста, дайте нам знать, если у вас остались какие-либо вопросы.
14  Local / Бизнес / Re: [Объявление] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 02, 2023, 03:17:39 PM
Reserved
15  Local / Бизнес / [ANN] Анонимная виртуальная карта on: October 02, 2023, 03:07:37 PM
    (Примечание: Этот текст переведен с английского на русский.)

   Привет, уважаемые биткоинеры!
  
Добро пожаловать на официальную тему PayWithAnon на форуме Bitcointalk!  


   Сегодня мы представляем миру Anon карту VisaŽ.
   Anon виртуальная карта позволяет вам тратить более 5+ криптовалют онлайн, как наличные, в любой точке мира.

   Приобретите Anon Виртуальную карту VisaŽ за криптовалюту, чтобы оплачивать покупки онлайн в любой точке мира, где принимают карты VisaŽ,
   карты моментально готовы к использованию.



    Главные особенности:

    Конфиденциальность: Мы никогда не попросим вас предоставить какую-либо идентификацию или личную информацию.
    Без ограничений: Вы можете создавать столько Анонимных Виртуальных карт, сколько вам нужно, чтобы соответствовать вашим потребностям в расходах.
    Высокий лимит пополнения: Переводите средства или получайте их от других пользователей Анон мгновенно.
    Отправка и Получение: Вы можете пополнять до $1000 каждую Anon карту

    Как это работает:

    Создайте аккаунт: Создайте аккаунт, указав только ваш адрес электронной почты, дополнительная информация не требуется.
    Пополните баланс: Пополните ваш кредитный баланс более чем 5+ криптовалютами, криптовалюта автоматически будет конвертирована в USD.
    Создайте карту и оплачивайте: Создайте карту одним кликом, карты моментально готовы к использованию. Используйте Анон Карты для оплаты везде, где принимают карты Visa, в любой точке мира.

   Посетите наш сайт сегодня:: www.paywithanon.com
16  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 02, 2023, 01:40:35 PM

1. What exactly does "Create/Load Card - 10%" mean?

2. Is it really legal to change and apply ToS immediately? Few past news[1] says it's not legal to do so.


1. That the fees for creating an Anon card.
2. I don't really know policy around the terms, however I know if they term change in a way that will affect you negatively they cannot be change immediately.


You assume that this is a registered/legal company that is doing this. (this is my assumption, if you are, feel free to correct me). Usually cards like this are used for connecting to random ad networks, and then running it till it gets charged. Another option is these are used to get several free trials that require a card submit. (such as canva etc) or then straight up to scam the CPA boards that pay you per action.
Pretty much always illegal.

If any user uses a card in a way that is violating our Terms of Service, these cards will be automatically deactivated. I must say, creating a card exclusively to sign up to a dozen of free trails is in no way illegal. However, we don't accept abuse and volition of the terms of service of other merchants, so in a case that happens the card will be deactivated in order to protect the merchants and other anon users.  

17  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: October 01, 2023, 02:31:18 PM

This means absolutely nothing (unfortunately), because it does not prevent you from performing an exit scam at any time. However, everyone is the master of their own money and reputation, but I personally would never vouch for something like this.


This is fair and absolutely true, there are many legit websites that ended-up being an exit scam. However, we must say we have put a lot of resource, funds and work into building this platform. Time will give us the bitcoin and crypto community trust. The only thing we can do is building a prefect platform to show that we can be trusted, it's a long road ahead for us but nevertheless a road we expect to be on when created Anon.



It will never be clear to me how someone can even create a business based on this kind of business model, which, from the perspective of the legal framework, cannot possibly succeed. VISA is not some nonsense company through which money can be "transferred" in this way without the users being identified.
I've seen similar claims a few times, and it always ended badly.
There's no way VISA allows some anonymous new website to sell anonymous credit cards.

Well it's not easy we work directly with issuing bank, there is a lot of back and forth with the banks and a lot of trust involved. For example, the BIN numbers for the card we issue are unique and only issued by us. Thus, every agency knows that we have issued these cards, and they are directly linked to us. When any issues arrive, we will be held accountable. All funds are going directly to the issuing bank for the issuing and top-up of our cards.

There are a couple of platforms that do the same like, ezzo-card, pay-with-moon (stopped), bitcoin-company, bit-refill. Our fees are lower than those services, and because or BIN's are unique and clean our cards can be used at more merchants worldwide, than just generic BIN's they provide.  

Also, our cards cannot be reloaded and can only have a max balance of $1K well within the legal framework for cards that are not linked to anybody identity. It's also important to understand that VISA is just a card network, license banks and EMI's have the ability to issue card how they like within their legal jurisdictions . You can buy anonymous visa/MasterCard cards in grocery shops, it's a bit like that. However, we provide a more easy way to obtain an anonymous card with our platform. And as I said above, it's a long road to trust and success, but we are prepared for that road.

Best,
18  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: September 30, 2023, 08:15:48 PM
Today we introduce the world to the Anon Virtual VisaŽ Card.
Can you show us some proof that you are official registered company working with Visa?
I would love to see your office and Anon team behind this project.

This looks like another scam like we saw before several times with cards like this, maybe even made by the same people who made PST.NET cards or coinpaycard.net.
Design is similar and domain is recently registered, so I would be very careful before sending any coins to this website.

Quote
Domain:paywithanon.com
Registrar:Key-Systems GmbH
Registered On:2023-09-15
Expires On:2024-09-15
Updated On:2023-09-15
https://www.whois.com/whois/paywithanon.com

Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20230930195203/https://paywithanon.com/

Maybe I am wrong about this, maybe Anon team is willing to give few cards for testing to trusted forum members.



Hi dkbit98,

It's correct that the domain is 15 days old, however we have worked hard for a couple of months on this project. We just recently settled on a good name. (We hope)
We have no affiliation or any knowledge about the companies you describe above.

Anon is NOT a bank, so we don't have a direct partnership with Visa as described on our website our cards are issued by our partner Financial Institutions, pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc.

We would love to waive the card creation fees for a couple of trusted members, let me know if you can suggest any members (our maybe yourself).

Love to hear more feedback!
19  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Anon virtual card, No personal information needed. on: September 29, 2023, 09:14:54 PM
Reserved for updates.
20  Economy / Service Announcements / [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. on: September 29, 2023, 09:06:58 PM
   Hello fellow bitcoiners!
  
Welcome to the official PayWithAnon Bitcointalk Thread!
  


   Today we introduce the world to the Anon Virtual VisaŽ Card.
   The Anon virtual card lets you spend over 5+ cryptocurrencies like cash online, worldwide.

   Purchase an Anon Virtual VisaŽ Card with crypto to pay online worldwide anywhere VisaŽ cards are accepted,
   cards are immediately available to spend.



    Key Features:

    Private: We will never ask for any identification or personal information
    Unlimited: You can create as many Anon Virtual Cards you need to match your spending needs
    High load limit: Send funds or receive funds from other Anon users, instantly
    Send and Receive: You can load an Anon Card up to $1.000 USD each.


    How it works

    Create an account: Create an account with only your email, no additional information required.
    Fund your balance: Fund your credit balance with over 5+ cryptocurrencies, crypto will be automatically converted to USD.
    Create A Card & Pay: Create a card in one click, cards are immediately available to spend. Use Anon cards to pay everywhere Visa cards are accepted, worldwide.


   Check it out today: www.paywithanon.com
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