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1  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can anyone tell me if this scenario is a scam. ASAP My wife has started this on: December 16, 2023, 05:01:03 PM
I confirm that she never once used a link from the other person.
She went to crypto.com list any of us and registered. She has the crypto.com defi wallet. She has Tether.
The crazy high profit from 3 transactions within 2 hours is a red flag.
The other is how they are wanting 20% of the entire $111K temporarily held only to be released in two days back to all parties.
It seems she gave 500 more yesterday so they extended the deadline to pay or lose until next Thursday.
I had no idea until last night this was happening. I think I convinced her to shut down. She's out of funds anyway.
I will not allow my financials that support the lion's share of the household's expenses to be threatened. I told her scam from day one
but she had already done a few smaller successful trades and the hook was set.
You all confirmed my suspicions. How are they making money with her legit accounts? That still nags me.
I cannot share anything off her computer because she's helping her parents across town. I have a copy of the websites
from her on my phone because she wanted to show me how legit it is.
It's like watching a slow motion train wreck. I'm just glad she did not have access to a lot money or something really stupid like a title loan on her car.
2  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can anyone tell me if this scenario is a scam. ASAP My wife has started this on: December 16, 2023, 02:35:14 AM
To Potato Chips

Yes, the funds are sitting in a crypto.com defi wallet. She showed it to me.
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can anyone tell me if this scenario is a scam. ASAP My wife has started this on: December 16, 2023, 02:12:49 AM
To Potato Chips

She did not ever click on a link directing her to a site.

She never shared any of her account sign-on details.

She went to crypto.com, got screened and was given an account.

She does not have very much invested. He contacted her as a potential real estate buyer.

Realtors qualify prospects by asking questions. He was a cash buyer and has been trading crypto with a team that
searches for trends. He did not solicit her to make trades.
I never have thought this is not a scam. Just making sure. But if she has legit accounts, how can she get scammed?
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can anyone tell me if this scenario is a scam. ASAP My wife has started this on: December 15, 2023, 10:07:26 PM
I am not a scammer. What would I be scamming?

My wife has been conned and I know nothing about crypto trading and am looking for expertise.

It's my household under attack behind my back.
Yes, the crypto.com uses Defi wallet? Not DIFI as I wrote incorrectly. My wife is so soaked in this she will not help on this forum, so
I am forced to try am learn and explain the details for the first time. I want nothing from anyone but advice.
So far you all agree with what I have been saying to her all along. Scam.
She thinks because she enrolled in her legit accounts all on her own that she is not in trouble. I disagree.
All I wanted to know is if anyone ever heard of legit practices regardless of the profit or loss? The greater the profit the greater the fraud chances. Agreed.

unless I misread, I believe two responders to this thread accused me of being a scammer.
What does it take to prove otherwise? I am new and born at night. Not last night.
5  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can anyone tell me if this scenario is a scam. ASAP My wife has started this on: December 15, 2023, 08:28:05 PM
Thanks to all who have responded so quickly. I am told that some of my information is incorrect or not included. I am not convinced it makes a difference. I ask you to consider the following and a quick word if it changes anything:
 - The trading platform is crypto.com.
- The money has been transferred from my crypto.com account that I originated personally to my crypto.com DIFI account(security account).
She went thru a screening process in order get an approved crypto account to begin with.
- She purchased Tether type of coin.
- He guided her thru several trades within 2 hours and each trade made money. This was a teaching opportunity with small investment example.
The investment was $44K. The final number was $111K
With such a large profit in a short time, the DIFI people held the funds. They tell her they need a risk factor of 20% ($22K) because of the large sum that was made on her trades in one day. They will release all in 48 hours.

She created all of her own accounts. Nobody directed her to any of them. I think crypto.com, Tether, and DIFI are known in the industry, right?
She believes that due to the above, the situation is legit.

Does any of this change thoughts? I hope experienced people that know the mechanics of trading have more to say either way. Thank you for the support.
6  Economy / Trading Discussion / Can anyone tell me if this scenario is a scam. ASAP My wife has started this on: December 15, 2023, 05:56:57 PM
My wife was contacted from out of the blue. She is a Realtor. The person claims to be shopping for a 4 million dollar house. He later raises the amount to 6 million. My wife learns he earns his living trading bitcoin. He calls himself Mr Li. Over a few months the relationship continues but Mr Li lives in LA. We are in Scottsdale, AZ. He has spken by phone once and shares an email. He only wants to communicate by using snap chat. A month or so ago my wife got into a trade of say $500 and made profit. She did this a few times with Mr Li helping. He tells her the exact time to deposit or whatever they do to transact a deal. Weeks later he tells he she should increase the size of her investment. My wife has a bitcoin account. She tells me the process is to deposit US currency that converts to coin. Then trade. Then convert from coin to US currency. I guess Mr Li co-invests with her. The most recent time the initial investment was valued at $44K. Three trades were made on a specific date and time. Mr Li would send screen shots with markups from him as directions of what to do.
It really does not matter how much of these details I remember (I can get them cleaned up later), it's the process I want to validate. Apparently this trade event was so successful that when the money was deposited into the account, it was help by the conversion company under suspicion of fraud because there was nearly $77K profit made above a smaller beginning amount. NEXT- The party holding the funds until verified says that Mr Li and my wife need to deposit another $22,200 into the account to equal 20% of the balance for 3 days, then all money will be restored to the original account for withdrawal. With this, I am telling her no way. Scam alert. So Mr li deposits all but the last $3500 with over $42K of his personal money investment at rsik for loss by today. Original deadline was 6 days ago. Do any of these proceedures make sense? Wife claims all is done by her alone as far as creating proper crypto accounts, Tether accounts. The emails from the holding company are not grammatically correct and without a signature or contact line. Advice to my innocent but well meaning wife would be?.....
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