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1  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: 'Local' transaction, yet can be found on a block explorer on: February 16, 2024, 05:42:24 PM
The transaction eventually went through.

Thank you all a lot for your help. I learnt a lot. Thank you.
2  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: 'Local' inbound transaction, yet can be found on a block explorer on: January 21, 2024, 06:33:42 PM
Since the re-send can't be found on block explorers it could mean that your original transaction didn't have RBF enabled and nodes still have it in their mempool. This will result in the new transaction getting rejected because it conflicts with the original.

I think that is the case. I read on the forum on the exchange that it does not support RBF.

Your best option is to connect to an Electrum server that is able to see the original and use CPFP to bump the fee.

That's what I will do.

That local transaction is saved in your wallet file but not in all bitcoin nodes, if you want to keep a backup of it;
you either create a backup of wallet or create a backup the transaction by opening it (RClick->Details) and use the "Share" options (via "save to file" recommended).

Thank you. I did not know. I backed up the local transaction file.

I am now waiting for a response on the forum of the exchange. Earlier, I had resynced the SPV file of the decentralized exchange to try re-sending (in vain). But now, the interface of the exchange still has that re-send transaction pending. I imagine I have to restore the backup folder of the decentralized exchange I made before resyncing the SPV file, but I am not sure. I am thinking I want to clarify the exchange part before I return to Electrum to broadcast and CPFP the 'Local' transaction.
3  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: 'Local' transaction, yet can be found on a block explorer on: January 20, 2024, 04:36:43 PM
Thank you all.

Although, it will get dropped for good once any of its input is spent by another transaction.

I can't get my head around why the transaction would get "dropped for good once any of its input is spent by another transaction."

I am the sender, and I've tried re-sending that UTXO(?), after resyncing the SPV of the decentralized exchange I am withdrawing from. This attempt to re-send is pending (on the interface of the exchange), and can't be found on mempool.space. I imagine that the attempt to re-send is pending because the previous transaction (the one in question, that is inbound to the Electrum wallet) is still "in the network". That is why I struggle to understand how the transaction would get "dropped for good once its input is spent by another transaction".

I'm curious to understand what I am missing here.


Unfortunately, since it's inbound, you can't do anything to it but to contact the sender to increase the fee if it's possible in his wallet;

I am the sender and I can't increase the fee from the wallet of the exchange.

Or wait for it to be able to broadcast again then use CPFP to the transaction to bump its fee (right-click->"Child pays for parent"),

That's what I am most comfortable doing. I will try changing server now and then until the inbound transaction get "picked up" again, and CPFP.

I have a couple of precautionary questions: is it safe to:
- update Electrum
- receive and send other transactions
while I have this 'Local' transaction hanging?

4  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: 'Local' transaction, yet can be found on a block explorer on: January 19, 2024, 06:32:50 PM
That means your transaction has not yet been rejected by some nodes and the explorer where you check this transaction is still on their nodes.
I suggest try to copy the TXID of this transaction and paste it to another explorer check the list below

- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_chain_browser

If you can't find this TXID on some blockchain explorer it means it's already rejected by some nodes you should now be able to re-send it.



Thank you. I tried all the explorers.

The transaction was not found apparently on:

https://btc.cryptoid.info "no matching results"
https://www.blockonomics.co "transaction not found"

However, I could find it on:

https://mempool.space
https://bitaps.com
https://blockstream.info/
https://www.blockchain.com
https://blockchair.com
https://btc.com
https://chain.so
https://bitpay.com
https://live.blockcypher.com

Is 2 enough to assume that the transaction was dropped by the network? I am asking, however I must say, I actually tried to re-send the UTXO (not sure I am using the term correctly) 9 days ago. To do so, I resynced the SPV of the wallet of the exchange following a conversation there: https://bisq.community/t/2-month-old-btc-withdraw-shows-as-local-in-electrum/12517/2?u=cks. The re-send though is still pending (as of now) for confirmation in the wallet of the exchange. The interpretation of a user of that exchange is that the previous transaction is still "traveling through the network" https://bisq.community/t/2-month-old-btc-withdraw-shows-as-local-in-electrum/12517/10?u=cks.

I noted the comment of BitMaxz, who wrote "if you can't find this TXID on some blockchain explorer it means it's already rejected by some nodes you should now be able to re-send it." - but the transaction was not found on 2 explorers, however the re-send is still "not found" by mempool.space.

I am thinking then I should try to change server, and see if a server can pick up the transaction again, but I am not sure.

What do you think?


5  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: 'Local' transaction, yet can be found on a block explorer on: January 19, 2024, 05:13:47 PM
Thank you both for the clarification.

I looked at https://electrum.readthedocs.io but could not see any information on how to change server. In the wallet I see Tools > Network > Overview. Shall I un-tick "Select server automatically" and select a server from below "Other known servers"? Is that the right way to change server?

Also, I am wondering, since the fee of the transaction is so low,  14.0/vB: is there any chance at all that a server  would "pick up" this transaction?

PS the explorer I was looking at was mempool.space.
6  Bitcoin / Electrum / 'Local' transaction, yet can be found on a block explorer on: January 19, 2024, 04:36:18 PM
I have a receiving transaction showing as "Local" in Electrum, so, I understand no longer on the network. Yet, when I right-click on the transaction > View on block explorer, the tx page loads. It says the transaction is "Unconfirmed".

Could you possibly enlighten me on the confusion over Electrum telling me the transaction is 'Local', yet, showing up on a block explorer as 'Unconfirmed'?

I initiated the transaction myself 2 months ago (I read that transactions are dropped after 1-2 weeks - that's another point of confusion for me), from an exchange to this wallet in question.

I imagine the issue stem from the fee rate that is/was too low: 14.0/vB.

FYI:

When I right-click on the transaction > Details then click on the button 'Broadcast', I get the following message:
Quote
"The server returned an error when broadcasting the transaction.
Consider trying to connect to a different server, or updating Electrum.

mempool min fee not met
Your transaction is paying a fee that is so low that the bitcoin node cannot fit it into its mempool. The mempool is already full of hundreds of megabytes of transactions that all pay higher fees. Try to increase the fee."

I hesitate taking further step e.g. trying to connect to a different server, since I am confused about the Local-tx-yet-can-be-found-on-a-block-explorer question.
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