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1  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ELI5 on taxes in Croatia please? on: March 23, 2024, 09:58:16 AM
I can give you contacts if you decide for Rijeka region.
Please do!
But what Trofo is saying is pretty much the best advice you can get. All of us here are serious people and not some kids that will fool you around. But if I were you, I would probably hire an agency to help me.
Well, I've worked with 3 real estate agencies last time when I spent 2 weeks searching. They were showing me absolute horrible shit while trying to sell it like castles. There was even once an absolutely ridiculous situation when an owner was batshit crazy and wanted to give us a questionnaire to fill in (it wasn't like "how much do you earn" or something, more like "what's your favorite color"), but this super bulky muscular guy which was our agent stood between us, took the slip of paper from the owner's hand and said "ALL COMMUNICATION GOES THROUGH ME" lmao
In the end we found an apartment on one of the real estate websites and it was the best that we looked at. So yeah I don't trust agencies to do any better than us, all they do is repost the ads with their logo.
2  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ELI5 on taxes in Croatia please? on: March 18, 2024, 11:31:12 AM
Is it similar in other places, e.g. Pula or Zadar, or is it even worse there as they're also touristy? I wouldn't mind renting something for 1000 EUR/month as long as I can skip paying the taxes on crypto. I just need some certainty which I don't know where to get. :/

For 1000 EUR/month, you can get a good-looking, 2-room apartment (at least) 60 m2 or more in all cities in Croatia, including tourist destinations (except maybe Dubrovnik). It all depends on what you're looking for. It is generally worth avoiding urban centers and attractive locations, and looking for quieter, residential neighborhoods to find the best deals. You might even find smaller houses with gardens in these areas for the same price. Since you likely won't be working here, a daily commute won't be a factor.


Right, but it would be a problem to communicate/get papers/etc. when not in a bigger city. For example, in other countries residence permits and taxes are handled by local municipality, and I don't think I'll be able to successfully navigate that without Croatian, don't you think?
Also I am looking at the rental website and there's barely anything to rent. I don't own a car, so just logistically it's a bit impossible to come to Zagreb -> find a listing in a village nearby -> spend a few hours going there to see one house -> day wasted -> hotel price keeps piling up
It's frustrating to rent as it is in big cities with hundreds of rental ads (had to spend 2 weeks in 1mil+ cities), I expect it to be impossible when there's even less ads
3  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ELI5 on taxes in Croatia please? on: March 17, 2024, 04:00:44 PM
Nije nista bolja situacija ni u Hrvatskoj, cak mislim da je i gora kad se uzme u obzir razlika u primanjima te opcenito ekonomska situacija. U Zagrebu je postalo skoro pa nemoguce iznajmiti pristojan stan na nekoj normalnoj lokaciji koja nije vukojebina ispod 700-800 eura.

Ako Bog da bitcoin napravi ono sto se svi nadamo da hoce, s gustom odoh zivjeti na selo a u gradu nek zivi ko mora raditi.  Grin

Is it similar in other places, e.g. Pula or Zadar, or is it even worse there as they're also touristy? I wouldn't mind renting something for 1000 EUR/month as long as I can skip paying the taxes on crypto. I just need some certainty which I don't know where to get. :/
4  Local / Polski / Slovakian taxes on: March 13, 2024, 11:17:50 AM
Hello friends,
I've learned that Slovakia only taxes crypto at 7% since this year, compared to Poland's 19%. Has anyone considered moving to Slovakia to withdraw?
I'm looking for a tax advisor that could help with this, but I'm having troubles finding one.
Cheers.

Edit: nevermind, I talked to a Slovakian accountant and they cancelled the bill a few weeks before it coming into effect. They're paying 34%. Fuck Fico.
5  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ELI5 on taxes in Croatia please? on: March 13, 2024, 11:04:32 AM
Well, that what you are saying (12% tax on crypto-to-fiat and 0% tax for a two year hold) is true. But (and that's a big BUT) the problem is not paying the taxes. The biggest problem (at least for me, but I think for a lot of people) is what to do when Croatian IRS asks for FIFO list. I don't have it and I have no idea on how to do it. I tried several times, but there is no way to list all transactions that I made in the past few years.
I am imagining (at least in my case) all you need is to show all the purchases you've made (e.g. CEX transactions/bank transfers) and then all the sales (from CEX). I don't know of course if in Croatia they would want to see crypto-to-crypto too, or if you would be selling more than you had bought, but at least here in Poland that's how it's done

If by surtax you mean "prirez", there is no such thing in Croatia after 1.1.2024. At least that's what I heard of. Croatian government decided to remove surtax, but some cities like Zagreb increased their taxes to overcome less money flowing into their account.
Huh, I was only able to find information with this prirez. So you're saying that right now in Croatia you either pay 10% if you've held for less than 2 years, or you pay 0% if you've held for more? And that's it? No gotchas? What about crypto-to-crypto transactions?
Does anyone know of a tax advisor in Croatia that could help navigate this? In my case, I would be selling crypto for USDC (not taxed in Poland) and then moving to Croatia to withdraw fiat. Would I have to keep USDC for 2 years before I sold it for 0 tax?
6  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ELI5 on taxes in Croatia please? on: March 13, 2024, 10:56:29 AM
Germany comes to my mind as there you have to hold crypto only for 1 year in order to avoid paying tax. Then again, I have no idea how complicated their laws are.


The problem with Germany is that it's very hard to find an apartment there - some people search for months and longer, and those apartments come unfurnished. I would ideally like to move without such hassle, sell the crypto, live for a few years and leave.
There is also Slovenia, but there I am currently finding it hard to find a tax advisor or just about any confirmation about how it works. I don't want to be deemed a professional trader and be on hook for higher taxes just because I have used my non-custodial wallet extensively (and earned from it)
How is real estate market in Croatia? Could you advise on the best city to rent? As in, don't want to spend a month looking for an apartment in some touristy area...
7  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ELI5 on taxes in Croatia please? on: March 08, 2024, 08:11:58 PM
@tratatanga, like SirJohn mentioned, a bit more detail in your question would be helpful. Are you curious about crypto taxes specifically?

In Croatia, there are no specific laws or regulations related solely to the taxation of cryptocurrencies. However, there are regulations within the EU, of which Croatia is a member, that apply. In short, cryptocurrencies constitute a form of digital property in Croatia. This means that all gains or losses from buying, selling, or trading digital assets are subject to a capital gains tax of 10%. There is also a local surtax depending on your place of residence.

For example, if you bought cryptocurrencies worth €500.00 and later sold them all for €1,000.00, you are required to report and pay capital gains tax which is calculated as the difference between the purchase and sale price, which means: (1,000-500)*10% = €50 (plus surtax).

There are some exceptions to capital gains tax, such as owning the property for more than two years. However, this exemption does not apply to other taxes you may owe depending on how you acquired the property, such as additional income tax.


Well, I'm not sure how more specific I can be? But okay, I'll try. Basically, I don't have any other property, stocks, assets, nothing except for crypto. I am looking for a country to move to, to pay least amount of tax. I was reading here https://cms.law/en/int/expert-guides/cms-expert-guide-on-taxation-of-crypto-assets/croatia that you pay 12% on crypto-to-fiat transactions, and 0% if you hold for 2+ years. Is this not true for crypto? That's not the only place that mentions this sort of taxation.
8  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Slovenija (Slovenia) on: March 08, 2024, 08:04:09 PM
Is it true that you don't pay taxes on crypto in Slovenia?

No, it isn't. In addition to the original tax, Slovenia also levies a transaction tax on cryptoassets . The transaction tax is set at a rate of 0.25% and applies to all crypto asset transactions. In case of losses on crypto assets, Slovenia allows taxpayers to use the losses against taxes on other income.

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"Original tax"? What are you saying? Are you from Slovenia?
9  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / ELI5 on taxes in Croatia please? on: March 07, 2024, 12:06:48 PM
It's hard to find any reliable information in English. Thanks Smiley
10  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Slovenija (Slovenia) on: March 07, 2024, 12:00:01 PM
Is it true that you don't pay taxes on crypto in Slovenia? No wealth tax, no social contributions, nothing?
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