Done,

Yes, very true. Not sure, UK laws "The Insolvency Act 2016", I don't have my own counsel in this matter. They refuse to release dividends however, must treat all Creditors equally, etc. It's messed up.

I thought they calculate BTC debt but the Estate has sold the assets already. So it's pro-rata on the sold assets, it was valuated at. 12 btc = $150k. Ouch ouch but well.

It was naive to believe I can sell on bitcointalk because you need to be a professional. I am more informed now. Buyers need do due diligence of course before purchasing. The deal I offered is no longer available due to a misconception I had about what it was worth. Sorry about this and sorry to hear you were scammed.

Re: Selling the Claim: Yeah X-claim sorts that legality out for me. Re: waiting it's institutional buyers who can wait.

I agree: to quote John Maynard Keynes "in the long run we're all dead".

I got $150k valuation and its being auctioned off at $30-50k. For 12 BTC initially. SoFA analysis by X-claim. I'll take it because I retire from crypto, moving onto other things

Initial offer off-table as its being listed later this week. I get a little less than expected, $30-50k auction range, $150k valuation by X-claim.

Yeah I message you on telegram I am rarely on this forum

We're listing it this week and the price is a bit lower, will post in this forum when listing is open.

Ah didn't know. They contact Buyers in their network beforehand the listing. Next, the evaluate the Estate. Then it's math for these finance guys a/k/a Buyers as to how much they are willing to pay for the debt and wait an presumably 18-24 months. It will have an fair estimate after x-claim do their due diligence.

I will update the thread, the listing is planned for next week. And the Mintpal group on telegram has only 20 members, so we are indeed very few. The amount of total Creditors in this mess according to Annual Reports is about 100 guys.

Hi Condoras

Loan Amount: $1000 in BTC
Loan Purpose: Contingencies, Re: Selling 12 BTC Mintpal debt
Loan Repay Amount: $1200 in BTC
Loan Repay Date: 2 months (6/9/2025) latest
Escrow profile link: None
Bitcoin Address (BTC network): 1FpEw1ZhwLVZyRKVFBPDmSf79viVhu8DSH


Cross-posting from shasan thread where I was rejected.

Thank you condoras. X-claim.com is a brokerage, they take commission from the sale. I think we're listing it this week or next. So x-claim.com has been pretty quick. If it was FTX, Celsius etc, it would've been even quicker, since they already had customers from those bankruptcies.


Yea it has been ~11 years in Liquidation, I am tired of waiting so I am selling 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08920347/filing-history

All Annual Reports are there, the Liquidator is Liam Short

TLDR: I found a better avenue to list it on, an auction site x-claim.com. They sort all the legal papers of transferring it to another person or entity.
TLDR: Mintpal was shut down, and years later the Liquidator found £15 million of assets, but only 100 Claimants of which I am 1. The Liquidator anticipate a dividend to all Creditors, plus statutory interest where applicable.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510127/

Accept only altcoins I read after I posted this. But you can sell Claims on x-claim.com, which is what I am trying to do now.

Loan Amount: 0.1 BTC
Loan Purpose: Personal
Loan Repay Amount: 0.2 BTC
Loan Repay Date: 2 years (6/1/2027) latest
Type of Collateral: Mintpal Claim
Escrow profile link: None
Bitcoin Address (BTC network): 1FpEw1ZhwLVZyRKVFBPDmSf79viVhu8DSH


Also PM'd on Telegram.

Hi

I have a 12 BTC Claim in Mintpal.com (a former cryptocurrency exchange) bankruptcy as a Creditor.

1) I will provide all legal documents such as Proof-of-Debt, including in the last Annual Report and on the Creditor's Portal, the estimated time to retrieve funds is presumably 18-24 months, according to the Liquidator
2) I will provide my proof of identity
3) I will provide my contact info etc.
4) I am selling 1 BTC of this debt for 0.2 BTC (5x BTC return in presumably ~2 years).


If interested, shoot me a DM here or on Telegram https://t.me/bmcarl1994

I submitted a Claim for 12 BTC. Since 2021 they recovered some BTC as well.

Jag är här, försöker sälja min Claim i Mintpal bankruptcy. Inte helt lätt.

Doesn't help.

What was the company name of Havelock? I found Havelock Investments Ltd was forcefully dissolved in UK and all remaining assets donated to the crown (but I am unsure if this is the correct company). But I doubt they resided in UK offering unregistered securities, I heard Panama and Hong Kong and such places.

Unsure whatever happened to them, no news articles no nothing.

Had an account balance there, I e-mailed Contact@HavelockInvestments.com

Please refund. Thank you.

I like real wealth: gold, stocks, hard currencies, cash, over cryptocurrency [as a store of wealth]. I am interesting in cryptocurrencies due to cryptography.

In stocks I find that I outperform index every year, by a statistically significant margin, but I do spend a lot of time.

I don't trade with leverage or loans, never small cap companies. Still my portfolio has increased by an average of 25% each year for the last decennium.

I won't become ultra-rich like George Soros. That is almost impossible. You need windfall profits and lots of luck (be in the right place for you).

Anyone interested in buying 1252 NEO&BEE shares book value 5.2287 BTC; I sell them for 2500 USD. Essentially you need to sue or deal with the CEO Danny Brewster 'cryptocyprus' or wait for creditors to be repaid. It went defunct in 2014 and sold on Havelock Investments. It was a "bitcoin bank".  According to his last post on bitcointalk, some coins are locked up in MtGox so things might change soon.

Thoughts on this?

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