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1  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Free Amazon $100 AWS Coupon on: August 17, 2014, 07:57:10 AM
Does anybody have an extra code and would be kind enough to pm me? Thanks! ...Signed up for this 6 days, but I haven't received anything, not even a confirmation for signing up...and I thought that these were 100% sure.
2  Economy / Digital goods / Re: (WTS) 2 amazon gift codes on: August 14, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
I'm running out of (figurative) popcorn...would anybody care to share their experience? Also with 2 relatively new accounts, what are the chances of running a ping pong scheme here, so that others could be sucked in at a later time?
3  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Amazon gift cards (up to $500 in the next few days) on: August 14, 2014, 08:08:04 PM
Due to the relentless wave of gift card scams, one should automatically assume that these cards have been obtained fraudulently and that they will be revoked/cancelled some time after taking delivery. Purchase at your own risk.

I believe that you are mostly right, but I'm willing to evaluate each case on its own merits
4  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Amazon gift cards (up to $500 in the next few days) on: August 14, 2014, 07:59:48 PM

Clearly you have not been a victim of chargeback then if you think PayPal actually checks IP logs. Unauthorized access doesn't always mean a guy from Thailand took access to your account, so IP logs can sometimes become irrelevant. To come on here with no deals (doesn't matter what alias you can claim on other sites), that poses risk. You really don't need to tell me how an account becomes limited, because it happens frequently, so it's not sensitive information there. I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm letting other know of dangers and perhaps provoke some thought before trading with anyone. Not cherry picking you out here nor attempting to call you a scammer. From what I have noticed, there has been an influx of users selling Amazon gift cards, including buying. Some are legitimate, some are not so it's best everyone keeps an open eye and mind. Myself as well not calling anyone out, just everyone be safe, and you too good luck on your search for Amazon. Me personally, I will end it here, and not cause clutter to your thread.  

Gyfts,with all due respect, you really do not know what you're talking about when it comes to PP and Amazon. Also you seem to put everything in the same pot: chargebacks, reversed transactions (initiated by PP alone) etc and even limited account activity. With a verified account, not a disposable one (like most of the people in the fraud business are using), even with a negligent PP approach to a particular claim, you simply can't get away with filing claims for whatever reasons. Every time someone files a claim even if it ends up being decided in their favour, their risk profile with PP is elevated and the next one becomes a much more difficult and so on, even if that user is actually the one being victimized. Stupid or dishonest at some point you'd be more of a liability than an asset. As far as "unauthorized access" goes, this is one of the most difficult to prove from a user standpoint, because involves a lot more than just an IP, and I will stop here because this is not common knowledge and a lot of less-than-genuine users would probably give up one finger to know it.
I appreciate your intention to stir up an "academic debate", but you know very little about PP, real-time monitoring (not just some after the fact logs) and the complex algorithms used in fraud and unauthorized access/use. What you seem to have is a very personal, less informed view of how Paypal operates and the risks associated with using it. Again, I do not endorse Paypal, Amazon or any other company, they are all a mix of good and bad apples, but to say that PP is a no-no it's just completely wrong. Also regardless of the payments platform, how you are doing a transaction and so on, you should keep in mind that at each end there is a human(-like) entity with more or less elastic morals, proclivity to behave in a certain way, really impossible to assess even based on previous experiences, so yes, every transactions has its own risk / reward profile and everybody should be very aware that nothing is 100% certain.
5  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Amazon Gift Cards - 15% off on: August 14, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
I would buy up to $400 today, but only PP (verified account) and I do not go first, but if you'd like to send me your phone # over pm, I could call you immediately, have a chat, we will do one card at time (if you have lower denominations your risk is minimal) and all payments will be made within 1 minute if we are doing it over the phone. Thanks
6  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Amazon gift cards (up to $500 in the next few days) on: August 14, 2014, 08:51:21 AM
Based on the amount I will pay up to 90% face value, but I need proof of being legit cards / e-cards. I would rather pay more and be safe than otherwise. Also I'm interested in an ongoing business for buying Amazon gcs.



What proof would satisfy you? There no real way to tell wether these have been carded somewhere down the line. If you do buy these you should know the risks, but if you buy one create a new amazon account and spend them as fast as possible so you don't get burnt.

There are multiple ways in which someone can prove that their merchandise is legitimate. A very simple example that will get you 90% face value from me would be a cash receipt that matches your gc's unique # (not claim code). Again, I will pay one of the highest rates but that comes with strings attached, and if your stuff is legitimate why shouldn't you go for the highest price? For lower quality, depending of potential risks I will pay less, but still above the typical 70% (or less) face value around here.
7  Economy / Digital goods / Re: (WTS) 2 amazon gift codes on: August 14, 2014, 05:37:32 AM
Although I strongly disagree with Gyfts' "approximations", looks like s/he was onto something. Either way why would anyone take twice as much cut if they really knew their merchandise and didn't have anything to hide. Still not pointing any fingers yet, but putting my money on Gyfts' nose...
Enjoying my (figurative) popcorn while watching this unraveling...
8  Economy / Digital goods / Re: (WTS) 2 amazon gift codes on: August 14, 2014, 05:00:59 AM
not stolen man i got them for my birthday

If you can prove that these are legit and willing to send first after I'll present my credentials, plus you have a verified PP account, I could offer you right now 85% face value, w/ my payment due within 2 minutes of receiving and redeeming cards (we can do one at a time) AND I will also send you proof of funding source so your risk or chargeback is 0. If you want to do this over the phone in real time, you just pm me you phone # and I will call right away. Let's see who will beat this offer Smiley

9  Economy / Digital goods / Re: (WTS) 2 amazon gift codes on: August 14, 2014, 04:54:13 AM
Escrows can apply the Amazon to the account, or that isn't even needed. Or you can just hand the code over to the buyer. If you don't like this, then you send first to a trusted user.

The above statement shows that you @Gyfts know very little if anything about Amazon gift cards. And this comes from somebody who goes through serious amounts of Amazon gcs every month. Other than this, your fight is your own business, but I'm happy to watch and learn....


Funny you say "fight your own business" when you don't even know what is going on. He wants people to go first, and not use an escrow. If you don't want to use a 3rd party escrow, use a p2p escrow. Seems like you didn't respond to my earlier comment about chargebacks....because it is the fact and no one should use PayPal with strangers. So your experience seems to mean nothing.

What I said is that this is your own business..I don't know what's between you and what pms you've exchanged. What I wanted to point out is that you do not know how Amazon gcs work, and still you claim that escrow adds value to the transaction.
Also I actually responded to your other "approximate assumption" and you seem to frequently use these instead of actual knowledge, so you please check that thread first. I do know what I'm talking about, both in terms of Amazon and Paypal (this doesn't mean that I support the practices of either company) because I use them daily and also due to the nature of my work I had contact with their technology, so please let's just say that I know more than you do on this particular topic. Plus as I said it multiple times before I happen to have real credentials that would recommend me as a 100% trusted business partner, something that over 99% of the people around here can not say. This is not arrogance...just facts that can be proved easily.
10  Economy / Digital goods / Re: (WTS) 2 amazon gift codes on: August 14, 2014, 04:09:08 AM
Escrows can apply the Amazon to the account, or that isn't even needed. Or you can just hand the code over to the buyer. If you don't like this, then you send first to a trusted user.

The above statement shows that you @Gyfts know very little if anything about Amazon gift cards. And this comes from somebody who goes through serious amounts of Amazon gcs every month. Other than this, your fight is your own business, but I'm happy to watch and learn....
11  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Amazon Giftcards for sale [20 percent discount] on: August 14, 2014, 03:51:41 AM
use a trusted escrow next time to prevent scam.

I would also like to know how would that "trusted escrow" work for a seller if the buyer reports the Amazon gcs as not working? What exactly is the escrow going to do to protect the seller from a fraudulent "buyer"? Or somebody's just paying that escrow fee for a false peace of mind / ticket to scam the other party?
12  Economy / Digital goods / Re: (WTS) 2 amazon gift codes on: August 14, 2014, 03:32:31 AM
that leaves a open gap for the buyer to lie and say the card does not wrk and ripps the card off and received bitcoins back...duh man think about stuff before you go around accusing and posting shit , just cuz alot of people scam doesnt mean imm trying to scam. i have 2 giftcards from my birthday and was told this was a good forum to maybe sell them. geeesh

This may be a good place to buy them (but most people want to trust them without showing any credentials whatsoever), but I'm not sure that from a seller's pov the same can be said. There may be other better places to sell them if you know your merchandise. I will buy and offer up to 90% face value as long as I'm satisfied with seller's credentials and proof of legitimacy and if they beat mine I will also pay first.
13  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Amazon gift cards (up to $500 in the next few days) on: August 14, 2014, 03:14:30 AM

You're so wrong. No justification to use PayPal here. You go online and file as "unauthorized access" and they'll refund you 100 percent of the time.

And PP will take my word for it and not do any checks, right? And don't give me the "proxy story", because I can tell you how you could have your account limited in under 2 minutes guaranteed. Plus there are multiple other elements that I would rather not mention that define an "access" and Paypal just happens to have one of the most advanced real-time fraud and unauthorized access detection systems in the industry. You are just making assumptions. If you want to hear what I have to say about "irreversible" transactions, I could just say this (and I'm neither pointing fingers nor accusing anybody of anything) - I believe that a lot of people prefer these for one or more very obvious reasons only and we all know what I'm talking about.
14  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Amazon gift cards (up to $500 in the next few days) on: August 14, 2014, 02:49:10 AM
Without being disrespectful, I believe that a lot of people around here do not understand what chargebacks are when it comes to PP. A CB is when a when a bank sends PP a notice that a CC was either used w/o authorization or the buyer filed an INR or SNAD claim through their CC company. I will not use a CC and for each transaction I will be able to show a proof of that. Plus I'm going to use the personal transfer option, so there is virtually 0 chance of a claim either, since there is no sale to begin with. Plus PP per their User Agreement does NOT offer any kind of protection for gift cards, prepaid cards, coins, gold, intangible items and so on, which means that from a technical and legal standpoint even the sale of a gift card is not going to be eligible for either a claim or a CB originating from a bank, unless a CC was used w/o authorization. Plus I do have some solid credentials that would beat what most of people around here can show (especially since a lot of the accounts apparently are sold and resold and who knows what else), that is why I do no pay first, but I'm willing offer proof of my credentials, also to call the seller and within seconds of redeeming that gift card to make sure that the funds are in their PP account. I do have experience doing this as I am a regular purchaser of Amazon gift cards.
If anyone is interested, send me a pm with what you have, what you want and we'll take it from there. Thanks
15  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Amazon gift cards (up to $500 in the next few days) on: August 13, 2014, 08:48:41 AM
Added some #s, hopefully more people will start taking a look at this. Thanks!
16  Economy / Digital goods / WTB Amazon gift cards (up to $500 in the next few days) on: August 12, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm interested in buying Amazon gift cards. I need up to $500 in the next few days.
Payment methods:
BTC or any other digital coins (will be purchased on demand)
Paypal (ideal for me)
other prepaid digital gift cards (PSN, XBOX, zeevex, etc)
other suggestions?

Also if you have lower denominations $20, $25 and up to $50 it would be ideal, so we can set up a way to do it.
I know that I'm new and have 0 reputation in this marketplace, but I have great credentials elsewhere and I can prove it, so the safety of the transaction(s) will be the least of your concerns.

Based on the amount I will pay up to 90% face value, but I need proof of being legit cards / e-cards. I would rather pay more and be safe than otherwise. Also I'm interested in an ongoing business for buying Amazon gcs.

Please pm with any offers.

Thanks
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