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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: wallet recovery with 12 words seed phrase on: February 07, 2025, 10:32:09 AM
Thank you all for your kind help.

I will try out some derivation paths and passphrases as 13th word.

I also will try this tool for recovery.

The next time I will write down some more information about the seed generation...
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: wallet recovery with 12 words seed phrase on: February 04, 2025, 08:10:43 PM
Thank you guys for trying to help me!

I've never seen a datestamp for Electrum. Monero for instance uses those, to speed up synchronisation. Are you sure it's a Bitcoin seed?

Yes its for sure my old BTC wallet, i wrote it down next to the words.

That’s unlikely to be a timestamp, but more likely to be a derivation path.
Does it look something like this: m/84’/0'/0'?
If it does then it’s a derivation path and you will need it (along with the seed) to restore the correct wallet.

What you need to do, after typing the seed and selecting bip39 (assuming you are using electrum to restore your wallet), is to type that derivation path in the appropriate field then click Finish.

Dont think it is a derivation path, because I wrote "Datestamp: 1234/56". It is not 1234/56, just six random numbers, which are too big to be an actual date.

With that, it's safe to assume that it isn't an Electrum seed phrase.

If you pasted an Electrum seed there, the 'Next' button should be clickable without ticking any options, if it's not an Electrum seed, it will not be clickable.
And based from its age, a note saying "Seed type: old" should be displayed below it.

Also, if you tick "BIP39 seed" option, it should display "BIP39 checksum ok" for it to be a valid BIP39 seed.
So if it shows that it has the correct checksum, that's your first clue.
Otherwise it's something from a non-standard mnemonic seed implementation or has at least one wrong word or arrangement.
Continuing will just force Electrum to derive keys from it because the 'Next' button will be clickable whether it's a valid BIP39 seed or not since you ticked "BIP39 seed" option.

There is no hint about the correct checksum in Electrum. I triple checked every word and arrangement.

If you enter your seed phrase and you can only move forward if you check the BIP39, it means that:

1- it is not a standard electrum seed phrase.

2--it has typos, you are adding an incorrect symbol or letter or spelling mistakes.

3- you created a custom BIP39:

Custom BIP39 seeds do not have a specific format so you can write whatever you want, it is essentially a brainwallet.
In this case, make sure you choose the correct address type and derivation path, if "detect existing accounts" does not work.



Do you remember anything specific? Software color, address type...?
Do you remember if the password was to enter the software or was it part of the seed?.

Its not a custom BIP39, because every word is in the BIP39 word list. I cannot remember anything specific regarding the wallet. The password was just used to enter the software.

Is there a wallet, which supports a lot of different seed formats?
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: wallet recovery with 12 words seed phrase on: February 02, 2025, 07:36:27 PM
Thanks for your help! Smiley

You cannot use a seedphrase on Bitcoin core so you can eliminate that from the equation. Electrum does uses seedphrases but it's not a BIP39 as you mentioned, so if you restored while checking the BIP39 in the oltions, tey to restore again without doing so.

I also believe Electrum used to have different type of seed back in 2015 (before version 2.0 or something) but I think it should be supported still, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Okey, then I believe the seed was created with Electrum. When importing at Electrum I cannot select any other option than BIP39, otherwise I cannot click next.

When I recover it with Electrum, no balance and no transactions are shown. But there should be some.
Any chance you extended the seed with a passphrase (also called "13th word")? If you did, you'll need to add it again or you get a different wallet.

I also believe Electrum used to have different type of seed back in 2015 (before version 2.0 or something) but I think it should be supported still, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
As far as I know, Electrum seeds include the version number so they should always work correctly.

I dont think so, that a passphrase was used. In that case I would have written that one down. I did not wrote down a version number, but a Datestamp in the format of ****/**, which is not an actual date. Could this be a hint for something?
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / wallet recovery with 12 words seed phrase on: February 02, 2025, 06:42:11 PM
Hi everyone!

I have the 12 words seed phrase of a wallet I created back in 2015, which I now want to access again.

I cant remember with which software the seed was created, as far as I remember it must be Bitcoin Core or Electrum.

When I recover it with Electrum, no balance and no transactions are shown. But there should be some.

Recovery with Bitcoin Core is not preferred, because I dont want to sync for weeks.

Summarized: I have the wallet password, the datestamp and the BIP39 12 words seed phrase.

Are there any other options?

Thanks and best regards
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