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I would recommend people wind it down more than a few notches with the threats.
They're neither clever or smart. If anything, they're evidence, so do yourselves a favour and wait to see the outcome
... then, if its warranted, make a noise. If not, you should be more careful about what you say.
I am a big fan of my privacy and because of that I use tor for almost everything I do and even take additional steps beyond that. I have had many accounts here and elsewhere since I found the crypto world and don't mind ditching this one. With all that said, I am not in the same country and the amount I lost would not be enough for me personally to visit them. However, my loss and the disrespectful/bullshit nature of this situation makes the additional cost of hiring someone to find out everything possible about them well worth it. The satisfaction of posting all of their private information in a public forum for the world to see would be more than enough compensation for me. I do not care about "evidence" or what other people think about what I plan. I care about making a point to everyone that at least one person refuses to take any more of these thefts just lying down. This is a warning to every exchange owner/operator/developer.. If you fuck me I will find you and will dox every scrap of personal information I can find on you. |
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If they do gox us I will offer another 10btc to find the name, phone number, and close relatives of the management of mintpal.
I have been doing some research on London based private detective agencies and it is looking like it will only cost me a fraction of that to dox all of these assholes and their closest family members. |
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Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.
Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!! Are there any viable decenteralized alternatives? That is what the bitcoin/altcoin space really needs! We need an exchange where trust is not an issue! Not yet! Last I heard is that NXT is working on it's first decentralized NXT/BTC multigateway. It is already up and running but it is not yet fully decentralized. When finished and decentralized it will also support many altcoins. This is what they claim! I hope they deliver, because honestly after all these exchanges going down, you can't but wonder which one is next!!! I will keep an eye out for it for sure! I think this should be a call out to all of the developers in this space. They are spending a lot of their time working on shatcoins that may or may not(probably not) succeed. However, if they were to spend those same resources on the development of a truly decentralized exchange I bet they would see more than a modest return for their efforts. |
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Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.
Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!! Are there any viable decenteralized alternatives? That is what the bitcoin/altcoin space really needs! We need an exchange where trust is not an issue! |
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That is the same bullshit story. Why would they upgrade to a platform that doesn't work? What kind of professional development team would have pushed a new version live without it being fully unit tested? It really seems like classic delay tactics while they cashout their stolen coins. |
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I don't understand the mentality behind these thefts. These guys have to know that there is a decent portion of this community that comes from the darknet. On that darknet it is fairly easy(fairly cheap too) to get information on just about anyone. I imagine 1/3 of the stolen bitcoins so far would be more than enough to cement the point that stealing may cost your life.
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Just over 10btc(like 10.05xxxx) that failed to withdraw just before they went down. I have over 90 BTC worth of coins lost through Mintpal.
If I get scammed again I will be visiting that nerdy chubfuck in person, guaranteed. I did this with the last asshole who took my coins and he couldn't stop shaking, compensated me nicely.
I think someone should make an example of one of these gox-ing assholes. If one of them got beheaded I doubt many more would want to steal from the community in this way again. If they do gox us I will offer another 10btc to find the name, phone number, and close relatives of the management of mintpal. If I had that amount of money to throw around I would "take the law into my own hands". I'm not bothered about the amount I lost, you take your risk (although I would like it back obviously). It's the audacity that we will actually believe the bullshit excuses, delay tactics, and sit around and be bare-faced scammed that gets me. Exactly! If 10btc was going to really hurt me I would have never left it on the exchange in the first place. I find my self wishing I hadn't but meh. I am sick of these guys stealing huge amounts of wealth from this community and just getting away with it. Someone needs to teach them and the rest of the would-be assholes a lesson. A lesson that says we will no longer let these thefts just go without coming after them personally. |
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Just over 10btc(like 10.05xxxx) that failed to withdraw just before they went down. I have over 90 BTC worth of coins lost through Mintpal.
If I get scammed again I will be visiting that nerdy chubfuck in person, guaranteed. I did this with the last asshole who took my coins and he couldn't stop shaking, compensated me nicely.
I think someone should make an example of one of these gox-ing assholes. If one of them got beheaded I doubt many more would want to steal from the community in this way again. If they do gox us I will offer another 10btc to find the name, phone number, and close relatives of the management of mintpal. |
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anyone that bought that would be buying a brand new shiny turd of a domain name considering the recent bullshit with mintpal |
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I tried to withdraw earlier and the status was eventually updated to "ferror-failed" and my balance was not updated after it failed. I contacted their support and was told 4 hours ago that the migration team would be looking at it. This is ridiculous and unacceptable. If I get my coins back I will make damn sure not to put them back into anything hosted by moolah.
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The withdraw I just attempted ended up with the status "error-failed" and was canceled but now my balance doesn't reflect the amount that was to be withdrawn. Nice man. Nice
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From a end user's perspective:
First: They just shut down for days
Second: Login issues for days after coming back online
Third: Withdraws are taking forever.
I can't get my coins out of there fast enough!
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I wouldn't call my self an anarchist or liberal per say but I do tend towards individualism. I have never voted(US Resident) because I do not feel that I am truly represented by the system that is in place. Some of my friends say that it is surrender but I say it is my refusal to be ignorant of how that system really works and my refusal to take part in that system in any way. I do not pay taxes, receive social welfare in anyway and basically have as little to do with the system as possible. I basically do what I want when I want as long as it doesn't harm another individual or put my freedom in direct jeopardy. I see wealth as being happy and healthy not as having an abundance of material possessions. "Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy"
"Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association and the primacy of individual judgment."
Socialism and libertarianism are not necessarily opposites. That's the problem with arguing about these ideological dogmas that place people into separating boxes. Start thinking what the values we want to promote are, and develop a deeper political philosophy. These labels are not addressing the root causes. From Wikipedia article on Anarchism:
"As a subtle and anti-dogmatic philosophy, anarchism draws on many currents of thought and strategy. Anarchism does not offer a fixed body of doctrine from a single particular world view, instead fluxing and flowing as a philosophy. There are many types and traditions of anarchism, not all of which are mutually exclusive."
Freedom starts with "I am my own master" but ends before "I am slave to no man". Liberty is the possession of agency, the power to fulfil your own potential. It's important in this modern day and age of mass criminalisation, and of stolen liberties, to understand that the only path to preservation of spirit is through preservation of action.
To preserve our human spirit, we must look not to surrogate father figures, or the great grand institutions but instead to each other, directly from one humble person to another. The Darkness becomes our protective cloak for this nascent perspective.
Very well said. |
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I love the basic idea of btcjam(providing capital directly from those with it to those who need it) but I think the implementation is really lacking a lot. As I said previously I doubt that most of these loans are within the usury limits(at least for US residents) and if that is the case there is some case law examples which would make me really nervous as an investor investing in high interest loans like that.
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after comparing it with bitcoinwisdom I see that they display the 24 hour volume. I wish they had decent(any?) documentation for the public api methods.
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The following is a ticker response from the v2 api and for the ppc_btc pair. {u'ticker': {u'sell': 0.00277, u'updated': 1413213963, u'buy': 0.00278, u'last': 0.00278, u'vol': 61.7349, u'vol_cur': 21718.61916, u'high': 0.00295, u'low': 0.00275, u'server_time': 1413213964, u'avg': 0.00285}}
Shows the btc volume being 61.7349 but I suspect that number is not since the last update Here is another ticker from about a minute later {u'ticker': {u'sell': 0.00276, u'updated': 1413214149, u'buy': 0.00278, u'last': 0.00278, u'vol': 61.68669, u'vol_cur': 21706.22291, u'high': 0.00295, u'low': 0.00275, u'server_time': 1413214149, u'avg': 0.00285}}
Are vol and vol_cur some accumulated number or are they the actual volume between ticker updates? |
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I trade Bitcoin, Robert. I don't touch gold.
Depending on the country you live in I would reconsider that. If not gold checkout silver, copper, or nearly anything that would have actual use in production. There are a lot of "what if" situations where all-in bag holding of bitcoin could seriously leave you in a bad spot but far fewer of those potential situations when talking about precious or industrial metals. |
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From those charts it is fairly obvious that a dip is coming and a large one at that. I wouldn't really start worrying until the pullback dips below the long term upward trend(i.e. breaking the long upward trend ~1.2k or so). At that point I would say it is officially okay to don our tinfoil hats and scream about bitcoin in the streets.
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I don't think they will recover from this as in getting back old customers.
I have never seen a site, service or shop being not available this long when doing migration.
They have lost me for sure. I have maybe 10btc in various altcoins spread out across several accounts. They have some sort of emergency cashout thing going on but that would be a major pain in the ass for me as I am not 100% sure exactly what coin balances are in which accounts, just the overall. I know that was stupid on my part and I wont be making that mistake again. |
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