Right now I'm only giving out free tokens to anyone who wants them. After that I will sell the rest.

Haha Ya they probably won't allow this. But Google doesn't seem to be much better at the moment. They have already taken it down.

Read the tech review:
https://techgrvh.blogspot.com/2018/08/krypton-p2p-decentralized-Marketplace.html

Well he is a member you know why not at least read what he has to say.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

maybe my project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4636317.msg41912379#msg41912379

It wasn't supposed to be an insult. I'm just saying that if your an armature maybe it would be better to join a project rather then make a new one.

I can't imaging the project being very good if everyone is an armature, unless it's porn maybe.

The good stuff is never advertised so you never see it. And the crap that is promoted is junk so I don't bother.

I would say somewhere between 1 and 10 years.

I feel like the quality of the people in crypto has gone down. I wasn't even in at the beginning but even when I started I remember everyone was giving out coins for free and donating to all kinds of charities, but now it's just everyone on exchanges trying to pump and dump before the next guy. I remember when ethereum came out and I thought it was a scam at the time, but even that was high class compared to the crap now.

Well bitcoin mining helps to prevent censorship of buying so that is a possibility.

I have described the pizza transaction many times to people with success. I'm not sure how to describe this.

Is this for individuals to use or developers?

That's a good idea I tried it and it doesn't work because the computer cannot run the Linux Tor application. Not sure if it will run on a Linux PC. If you leave the Full Node switch off the app will only take a few MB of your phones memory the full blockchain will not be downloaded. If you do try it out send me your address I'll send you some Tokens to test.

The reason other platforms have selling fees is because they have to run servers and people and equipment. Because this runs on each user's phone there is no need for anyone to pay a selling fee. However they do need to buy the token in the beginning, but they could sell it later after they are done selling something to get that money back.

To your other point of this project running slowly, I hope to make money from the sale of the tokens so that should pay for any development. If other progress is needed I'm sure someone will fork the code and improve it and then sell those tokens to pay for their work.

Mobile fork v1.2.5

1.2.5
UI updates.

Android

This is a mobile fork of my original Krypton system for PCs. This version runs only on user's Android phones with no servers and no other PC nodes in the system. The blockchain has been designed for mobile phones and is able to completely run on Android without the need for any desktop systems or servers at all. I am unaware of any other mobile blockchain systems, so I believe this to be the first. Let's be clear this is not a mobile version of Craigslist, this is a blockchain version of Craigslist.

Krypton P2P tokens - a decentralized bulletin board

Krypton is a decentralized bulletin board of products or posts. The program, like Bitcoin, runs on each user's mobile phone so there is no central server. The tokens only exist because of the other users on the system. You can view anyone’s tokens but can only edit the ones you own. The system is kind of like Craigslist but built as a blockchain system. There are a total of 25,000 tokens on the system for people to use. That number cannot be changed unless the users of the system choose to update the protocol.

Krypton token Features:

No selling fees.
Users all over the world can access your items for sale.
You can update your listings anytime using your private key.
Because no site is hosting the listings they cannot be taken down.
Tokens are not free so the quality of products should be high.
Tokens can be linked into other websites to become ad space.
Add search terms to your listings with others to create decentralized stores.

Why is this needed? Soon many websites will be forced to comply with government policies like in China and Russia.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/23/596460672/craigslist-shuts-down-personals-section-after-congress-passes-bill-on-traffickin

Home Screen

On the home screen you can see a display of the most recently updated listings that have a new title. If you go to the search feature at the bottom you can search for a specific item. If you are using a full node this will search your own database. If you are a "Lite Client" it will search the peer you are connected to. If you are not conned to any peers it will say "Tor isn't ready." The QR code on the right is your public key.

Tokens is the number of coins you have.
Unconfirmed is the number of blocks waiting to be confirmed and (0) is the updates you have made but have not been sent to the network yet.
Last Block Time is the time in seconds since the last block.


If you click on the SEND (>) button you will see the Send screen.
The green number on the top 100100 is the token you are going to transfer to another address. You can enter this manually if you want to transfer a specific ID or you can click GET ID and the program will choose an ID for you that you have. Each token has an ID unlike bitcoin so you have to choose which coin or (Token) you want to send. If you send more then one token the program will go though your list of tokens starting from the lowest number. Get QR code will open the camera so you can scan another user's public key.


If you click on a listing you will see the LISTING Page which looks like the image below. Here you can see the details about the item as well as Contact details at the bottom. Each user will have to come up with the best contact system for them. Using email or some kind of messaging system.


If you click on the EDIT button (Looks like a pencil) from the home screen you will see the image below. Here you can edit any tokens that you have. Adding a picture link from an online image hosting service will allow your listing to have a picture. The Tor system does not have a good URL redirect DNS and so it's good to test your image link first to make sure it will be available for users to see. (Many URLs are not) This service seems to work well: postimg.cc

If you want one of those little icons to appear next to your listing on the home screen you can put one of these commands in the "search 1" field of your listing. If you don't it will just display the standard "coins" icon.

DISPLAY_BITCOIN
DISPLAY_COINS
DISPLAY_COMPUTER
DISPLAY_CONDO
DISPLAY_CONDOM
DISPLAY_DOWNLOAD
DISPLAY_ELECTRONICS
DISPLAY_ENGINE
DISPLAY_GAS
DISPLAY_GEARS
DISPLAY_GIFT
DISPLAY_JEWEL
DISPLAY_LAW
DISPLAY_MAP
DISPLAY_MEDAL
DISPLAY_OK
DISPLAY_PANTS
DISPLAY_PAPER
DISPLAY_PILL
DISPLAY_RING
DISPLAY_SCIFI
DISPLAY_SUPERMAN
DISPLAY_TICKET
DISPLAY_XXX


If you go to the SETTINGS (Wrench) button from the home screen you will see the settings screen.

Full Node Switch from the beginning this system was built for mobile so for many users who don't want to download the blockchain they can just use the "SPV" version. If Full node is on then your phone will have the whole blockchain if it's off you will only connect to other phones for the info.
Mining Switch if you are a Full node and have all the blocks and also have a minimum number of tokens (currently 50) you can be a miner. You will not gain any tokens for mining. It's only to support the system. Google took the app down from the app store because of this feature even though there are no crypto currencies in this app. So the Play Store version doesn't have this button but you can use it on the full version if you download from the link at the bottom of this post.
Server Switch if you are a Full Node and want to be a server you can become a Full Node Server which will allow other users to connect to your phone and download blocks from you, as well as view tokens from the blockchain. How does a phone allow for incoming connections? It uses Tor as a Tor hidden service.

Use one selected peer this will force the app to connect to only one peer that you choose in the field below. If unchecked then the program will connect to random peers in the database.
Peer address this is the address of the peer the program should connect to it should be a .onion address not an IP. It's possible to connect to an IP but this version of the program will not allow you to do so.
Insert .onion into the blockchain if you want to be a server then you can add your .onion address into a section of your listing this way other nodes can find you by looking you up in the database not by a separate IP list. This way only people who actually have listings become hosts not just random users.
Get new keys if you want to get a new public private account key you can do that here although if you haven't backed up your old key you will lose all your tokens.
Copy server address if your server is active you can copy the .onion address of your phone here.
Copy public key same as on the home screen this allows you to copy your account public key so others can send you tokens.
Get private key this copies your private key to the phone's clipboard so you can back it up in case of loss. Don't give this to anyone or they will steal your tokens.
Import private key if you want to import a private key you saved on paper or on another computer you can restore your account here. These are RSA 2048 bit key pairs not Elliptic curve keys like bitcoin.

These blockchain tools are mostly for testing and probably will never be needed by users.
Reset blockchain this will delete your blockchain history and you will have to re-download it.
Delete last block this will delete just the last block from the blockchain in case it has errors or is stale.
Delete unconfirmed this will delete the unconfirmed items you have pending to send to the network. This can be used if you made a mistake.
Print blocks if you are using an android studio system you can view the block history with a printout here. This will not show visually in the app.
Contact details (Public!) these are your contact details that will be inserted into each of your listings as you update them. You can post whatever details are needed for your buyers to contact you but remember they are public and so you should not put anything here that is sensitive.


Tor System

To run on mobile phones two main changes had to be made to the bitcoin system. One is a different type of blockchain and the other is the use of Tor. Tor is necessary for phones to communicate between each other. Since setting up a server on a phone is pretty much impossible for most users. Using Tor allows for all phones to become clients and servers. In addition to communication, Tor allows for two other main benefits. First, it hides users from some threats and is a good fit for a system like this. But also Tor allows each phone to become a server that can be accessed from regular Tor browsers all over the world. So having the app on your phone is not necessary, just a Tor browser can suffice. However, if you want to update tokens or transfer them you would need the app. The server in this app can distinguish between requests from other nodes and browsers by the header field. If there is no header it's a node, if there is a header it's a browser. If you connect as a node it's JSON if you connect as a browser it's HTML.

If users want to connect to the system but they don't have the app they can just connect to the phone by going to the phone's .onion address like this: http://md4kofpseowoo2hp.onion this allows for anyone anywhere in the world to view the status of the system from a regular PC without using the app. This could become much more valuable later on in building decentralized community websites.

Blockchain

The blockchain has been converted into more of a "worm chain" it moves along though time but it doesn't get any longer. Each block from the back is moved to the front, moving it along kind of like how they used to move heavy blocks ages ago with logs. The block moves along the logs and when it gets to far the log from the back is moved to the front. That's pretty much how this works. The blockchain will complete it's run about every month. At that time if any node hasn't updated they would be left out and they wouldn't be able to verity the blocks on their own any longer. That's why Bitcoin doesn't do this, it needs more security. But in this case the database is just information and thus not as important as monetary transactions. I think this is a worthwhile trade off for the benefits it brings to a system like this. But if in the future storage isn't an issue with phones it would be possible to save all the transactions like Bitcoin and have the same security. By just a few changes to the code.

FAQ
Any relation to Craigslist the site?: None.
What is the mining algorithm: SHA256 same as Bitcoin.
Are there any mining pools: no the mining system is designed to be mined on phones no tokens are given out though mining so there's no need for a pool.
Is this going to be on any exchanges: I don't think so it's not a currency and so I don't think anyone would want to trade it as such. If anyone wanted to buy or sell a token they could just use the system itself. Why pay fees?
What's the coin limit: 25,000 KRC
Why so few coins?: the blockchain system for this grows as the number of tokens goes up so the more tokens there are the bigger the database will be and for a phone it's better to keep it as small as possible. In this system the blockchain should be less then 1GB total forever.
Are you asking for money to build this system?: no it's already done. But some large scale testing hasn't been done yet.
Are there tokens for sale: yes I'm going to give away the first 1,000 for free and the next 1,000 for $1 and so on. If you want free tokens send me a message.
Are there any other ways to get tokens: I will give away free tokens to people who want to be servers and testers.
Is this on iphone?: no I don't know anything about iphone programming I'm not sure if the tor libraries are available for iphone but I would guess they are.
Does it work on ARC Welder?: no I think because the app needs Linux for Tor it doesn't work.

Timeline
Limited testing release: (July 12, 2018) You can download the APK here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/enx6e68sxgadsn6/Krypton_1.2.5.apk/file
Public app release: (August 19, 2018) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.play.app.krypton
Code release: TBA.
Token sale: Happening now, 1 USD equivalent of any coin per 1 KRC. I'll take BTC LTC ETH...

Media
Instruction video 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BkRNx8ZHaQ
Article review 1: https://techgrvh.blogspot.com/2018/08/krypton-p2p-decentralized-Marketplace.html
SubReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/KryptonMarketplace/

If you would like to help make instruction videos and advertising I can pay you for your time. Send me a message. Thanks.

Each time I put a new version of the program up I put a coin in there as well so anyone who downloads the new version first can get some coins.

No it's active give it a try.

http://foomfoumyoi37qly.onion/item/100102

This paper is an explanation of the attempt to link a digital asset to an underling commodity without any physical tie to that commodity. Use cases would include digital assets that matched the price of say Gold or Oil without any need to hold that commodity in a physical sense. The solution proposed here is the link between the digital currency issuance (mining) and the underlying asset price.

The need for this technology comes out of the fact that many people would like to have digital assets that match commodities. We see all the time, examples of companies trying to issue digital currencies related to some kind of commodity. But these assets are soon attacked by either Bitcoin users, who understand that linking anything to a physical item is dangerous, or by the company themselves not being able to protect the physical goods. Therefore up until this point, it has been seen as impossible to link anything to a digital currency or vise versa. The power of digital currencies comes from the fact that they are not tied to anything physical, that's what gives them the ability to fly. And those who have tried to link these two things together have met with resistance from governments as well as digital currency users. But what if you could link a digital currency to an asset without actually holding the asset in any shape or form?

As we have seen from the Bitcoin block mining system it is possible to artificially create a price increase from limiting currency issuance. Each time the Bitcoin block reword goes down, there has been a related increase in the Bitcoin price. I propose using a modified mining system to tie a currency to a underlying asset. If the price of the currency is lower then the asset then the block reword is cut off until the price comes back up to meet the asset. And if the currency is higher then the asset, then more coins will be minted each block until the price comes back down. Some might say this price system is too slow to meet the demands of the market. The price will go up and down too fast for the currency issuance to keep up. But I believe that users on the system will attempt to keep the currency matched to the asset as long as they know in the long term the system is designed to reword them for that goal. The price stability system is not really about the mining. The price control comes from the fact that the traders will be keeping the system stable. Because they know what the system is designed to do. They will know that buying coins higher then the asset price is a bad plan and buying coins cheaper then the asset price should reword them in the long run.

How the system works in the long run is of course not known. How traders actually approach such a system in the real world may not reflect what is expected. But that doesn't mean that the system doesn't have value. Perhaps it will be shown that a divergence in currency price compared to the asset price is a sign of something to come. Or a breakdown in agreement. But there should still be some kind of relation in the two assets even if that relationship is not known at this point. The potential of this system not working is contained within a failed coin. And the potential of the system working could result in a wide range of new digital assets and markets.

There are two changes that would need to be added to the Bitcoin or Litecoin program to create this new currency. Let's take a USD tie system as the first example. So the digital currency in this case would be tied to a USD asset. The first change would need to be an API link to a USD feed. This is not really necessary for the USD asset but it should be added non the less for future asset ties, when two different assets are being linked together. The most important tie will have to be linked to an exchange. There needs to be some kind of market oracle that is feeding these miners with info. And as any smart reader will realize this could be open to misuse. However, I think that this can be mitigated by the simple use of a democracy between the miners. The miners will need to agree upon the right info to pull in. And if there is a disagreement, it will be solved by a majority of miners choosing a feed. Once a reliable feed is chosen the problem of the oracle is simply how up to date the market is. If successful, such a coin could allow for new and better decentralized market feeds to evolve in the future to allow more of these digital assets to flourish. Once you have a reliable market feed it's simply a matter of liking the coin's currency issuance to the feed. If the USD price is higher then the coin price, the next block will release no new coins. If the market price of the currency is higher then the asset price, then new coins will be released to the miners in the next system block. The transaction fees in the system should prevent miners from holding back a block to wait for the asset price to be more favorable. Centralized mining systems could hold much more weight over a system like this because they may be able to wait longer for prices to change then say Bitcoin that is not tied to a price.

Known problems can be seen in the areas that are different then that in already running digital currencies. Such as feed issues with the market. Miners having more power in the system. And also dealing with large market swings. For example, if the price of the currency goes way up in the beginning and tons of coins are release into the system, and that is fallowed by a massive market downtrend there would be no way to remove coins from the market the only hope would be a slow rebound in the system back to the asset price. This might result in a environment of very quick uptrend followed by prolonged periods of slow recoveries.

Absolutely, and I chose that article specifically with the intention of finding one from a perspective like you have. That is doesn't work. Unfortunately you missed the important sections of the article.


However, I don't hold it against you. I wouldn't expect you to show the stuff that doesn't support you. Anyway the whole point was to show you that 90% mining loss is a stupid statement. I agree with you overall the loss is 5% - 20% which is what I said originally. And at that rate I still think the idea is a good one.

For example you could buy all your food in bulk and save 10% but you probably go to the store because it spreads the cost out overtime. In this case the mining is serving a purpose. Not only getting new coins but also putting those new coins in the hands of people that might believe in the system, and are going to spend them. There are so many benefits that can come from mining for a website like wikileaks and yeah maybe there is a money burn of 10% at the current time but so what. If you don't want to do it you just send your donation this is only for the people that want to. No one gets hurt.