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This is my first post here, but I am not a "troll". I am a significant holder, accumulating over the last months, and you can tell by my twitter @indiemaps that I have supported Monero in the past. But I can't see how anybody can trust the socialist devs of this project after the revelations of the past few days. I will not dump b/c I believe there is more BTC to be made off this flavor of the season coin. But I have certainly lost my trust and faith in the coin and team.
The developers claim to want to separate the monetary system from the government, yet David Latapie also believes in socialist education, redistributionist schemes, and forced/violent taxation. How this is compatible with an anonymous cryptocurrency is beyond me.
I and I hope all the other anarchists who have supported this coin in the past need to move on....to a coin with nonviolent developers who do not wish to force their views of society on us.
Dear me, you seem to have forgotten to think before posting. They are forgetting that the coin is bound by mathematical reason rather than the reason of the developers. Unless they actively worked to make Monero unanonymous (and useless) I can't see what all this fuss is about, for sure, indiemaps is a troll. The coin is bound by the code that makes up its codebase. As I will not be auditing all of the code there is going to be some trust in the developers involved here. David Latapie's state socialist views are a stain on this project, and he cannot be trusted around the codebase of an anonymous coin. If he is not involved in actual coding then he would be even easier to replace. I believe I have provided enough evidence that I am not a "troll", but it doesn't really matter. I haven't and won't mention any other coins in this thread (and haven't posted in any others). In the end you owe me no satisfaction. I have and can drop the price....but only a little bit and the coin will recover or keep falling based on nothing related to me. I still hold significant amounts and will buy no more.....so I have no interest in trolling or creating that dread FUD. I am looking for a good exit, and will make sure I do so while turning a nice BTC profit. |
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In either case, micromanaging the beliefs of others is not a very libertarian activity. That's the biggest flaw of the Randroids and many anarchists.
I very much enjoyed your response....but I hope it's clear that I am doing no such micromanaging. Believe as you wish, and I will invest as I wish.... Live and let hodl. But we are talking about an anonymous cryptocurrency here, man! It needs to be free from backdoors, compromised developers, and any kind of state surveillance. David Latapie may be a brilliant developer....but I do not trust him for the task at hand. |
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I'm curious about indiemaps's anti-socialism prerequisities. If there's one socialist, does he automatically reject the open source project? Or does one free market-proponent and one socialist cancel out? Is there a weighting function? So many questions.
 ROFL Weighting function. But seriously folks... As posted above, I was told on twitter by @monerocurrency that "most people in our team have a similar opinion", and I assumed this included the "liking socialism" part they also tweeted. All views should be respected and you guys can do what you want, it's just that I don't have to hold your coin (free market of crypto....for the moment). What I want now is a good exit strategy... Edit: I see the twitter will be tightened up. Given his views, I don't trust a coin with the state socialist David Latapie as developer or promoter. This may seem extreme, but again, I don't have to hold your coin. But I shall for a while as I figure out what to do here... Edit 2: No teenager, I am a 30-something with unbelievable angst. |
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This is my first post here, but I am not a "troll". I am a significant holder, accumulating over the last months, and you can tell by my twitter @indiemaps that I have supported Monero in the past. But I can't see how anybody can trust the socialist devs of this project after the revelations of the past few days. I will not dump b/c I believe there is more BTC to be made off this flavor of the season coin. But I have certainly lost my trust and faith in the coin and team.
The developers claim to want to separate the monetary system from the government, yet David Latapie also believes in socialist education, redistributionist schemes, and forced/violent taxation. How this is compatible with an anonymous cryptocurrency is beyond me.
I and I hope all the other anarchists who have supported this coin in the past need to move on....to a coin with nonviolent developers who do not wish to force their views of society on us.
Decentralized development means different people will have different opinions, see Mike Hearn versus Peter Todd versus sipa in Bitcoin. If you can't handle other people having different opinions about the monetary systems of the world, you might be fascist. Nice try. I can handle other people having any opinion, just not force or violence. You can have your socialist views, and others will soon have my monero! |
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https://twitter.com/monerocurrency/status/505851422412636160And, Anon136: Yes, it is that I do not trust state socialists to develop the coin that is being described here and desired by the community here. Yes, I do believe that especially David Latapie would be willing to cooperate with any and all regulators to create backdoors/enable spying on transactions. Also, I love Hoppe.
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This is my first post here, but I am not a "troll". I am a significant holder, accumulating over the last months, and you can tell by my twitter @indiemaps that I have supported Monero in the past. But I can't see how anybody can trust the socialist devs of this project after the revelations of the past few days. I will not dump b/c I believe there is more BTC to be made off this flavor of the season coin. But I have certainly lost my trust and faith in the coin and team.
The developers claim to want to separate the monetary system from the government, yet David Latapie also believes in socialist education, redistributionist schemes, and forced/violent taxation. How this is compatible with an anonymous cryptocurrency is beyond me.
I and I hope all the other anarchists who have supported this coin in the past need to move on....to a coin with nonviolent developers who do not wish to force their views of society on us.
There is room for differing views in the developer team. In fact I consider that one our great strengths. I can also assure you that the full range of views is well represented. I was told specifically on twitter by @monerocurrency that "most people in our team have a similar opinion" |
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This is my first post here, but I am not a "troll". I am a significant holder, accumulating over the last months, and you can tell by my twitter @indiemaps that I have supported Monero in the past. But I can't see how anybody can trust the socialist devs of this project after the revelations of the past few days. I will not dump b/c I believe there is more BTC to be made off this flavor of the season coin. But I have certainly lost my trust and faith in the coin and team.
The developers claim to want to separate the monetary system from the government, yet David Latapie also believes in socialist education, redistributionist schemes, and forced/violent taxation. How this is compatible with an anonymous cryptocurrency is beyond me.
I and I hope all the other anarchists who have supported this coin in the past need to move on....to a coin with nonviolent developers who do not wish to force their views of society on us.
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