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It sounds like you are looking for some sort of guarantee.
It seems as if you want to be sure every investor will be contacted personally, in their own language, fully explained everything, and given enough time for them to decide what they want to do on an individual basis.
Sorry, life doesn't work that way.
NRS puts out its public information (in english, as always). People bought their shares at their own risk knowing that fact.
If the Chinese community wants their information in Chinese, they can find the best translator that they trust to put up their own website, or create their own forum and talk about it there if they want.
This could be a good opportunity for a Chinese/English speaking person to get a website going (with advertisements, etc) and at the same time, providing a service to the chinese speaking community.
What if some person spoke Eskimo and is complaining they didn't know about the snapshot? Are we saying that all information should be sent to the North Pole for Eskimos too, because one person complained that when they bought NRS they didn't know the announcements wouldn't also be translated to Eskimo?
I know the Chinese community is much bigger than Eskimos. But that only reinforces the idea that maybe a Chinese person could volunteer or even charge for their service to send out a private chinese announcement newsletter to subscribers.
This is where the community can get involved. Barwizi is the developer of the technology. How people decide to invest their money is their risk. There are no guarantees of anything.
(If someone has a guarantee, please show one that says all announcements will be sent in Chinese. I did not see one)
People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin. This is the normal thing to do:
What people do not realize is that it should work like this instead:
But instead, we have hundreds of trolls on bitcointalk that like to blame everyone but themselves and are stuck at 3A instead, which wastes time. They learn nothing, and just complain, complain, complain. These people will always get tricked out of their money because they cannot see their own mistakes. They blame everyone but themselves.
You said it yourself:
Yes, I know. It wasn't fun to read, and I had to spend a lot of time passing by those troll posts. But you know what? The time I spent doing that rewarded me with knowing the snapshot was going to occur. So I did not lose my investment.
You, or people you know said "not all their says spend their days on the forum" because they did not like seeing the NRS scam posts. Well they had two choices:
1) get out of the investment
2) Find someone else who can read the forum to protect their investment.
OH, I see, you did this one:
3) Wait until something happens and complain "hey! I don't want to spend their days reading the forum. I believe the dev will figure this out very well."
Well.. The dev is not your babysitter. Sorry to be so rude. But people really need to start hearing the truth at this point.
NO ONE is going to hold your hand in your investments. It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL.
It seems as if you want to be sure every investor will be contacted personally, in their own language, fully explained everything, and given enough time for them to decide what they want to do on an individual basis.
Sorry, life doesn't work that way.
NRS puts out its public information (in english, as always). People bought their shares at their own risk knowing that fact.
If the Chinese community wants their information in Chinese, they can find the best translator that they trust to put up their own website, or create their own forum and talk about it there if they want.
This could be a good opportunity for a Chinese/English speaking person to get a website going (with advertisements, etc) and at the same time, providing a service to the chinese speaking community.
What if some person spoke Eskimo and is complaining they didn't know about the snapshot? Are we saying that all information should be sent to the North Pole for Eskimos too, because one person complained that when they bought NRS they didn't know the announcements wouldn't also be translated to Eskimo?
I know the Chinese community is much bigger than Eskimos. But that only reinforces the idea that maybe a Chinese person could volunteer or even charge for their service to send out a private chinese announcement newsletter to subscribers.
This is where the community can get involved. Barwizi is the developer of the technology. How people decide to invest their money is their risk. There are no guarantees of anything.
(If someone has a guarantee, please show one that says all announcements will be sent in Chinese. I did not see one)
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If this problem isn't solved. People will always attack NRS on this issue
People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin. This is the normal thing to do:
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1A. Invest in something
2A. Something happens that you do not like, and you lose money for any reason
3A. Attack the coin
2A. Something happens that you do not like, and you lose money for any reason
3A. Attack the coin
What people do not realize is that it should work like this instead:
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1B. Learn about what you are about to invest in
2B. Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too
3B. If something happens that you do not like, LEARN FROM IT
4B. After learning in step 3, try again and go back to step 1. You will have a greater chance of success.
2B. Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too
3B. If something happens that you do not like, LEARN FROM IT
4B. After learning in step 3, try again and go back to step 1. You will have a greater chance of success.
But instead, we have hundreds of trolls on bitcointalk that like to blame everyone but themselves and are stuck at 3A instead, which wastes time. They learn nothing, and just complain, complain, complain. These people will always get tricked out of their money because they cannot see their own mistakes. They blame everyone but themselves.
You said it yourself:
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not all investors spend their days on the forum when forum keeps changing its thread with bunch of trolls saying "NRS is a scam."
Yes, I know. It wasn't fun to read, and I had to spend a lot of time passing by those troll posts. But you know what? The time I spent doing that rewarded me with knowing the snapshot was going to occur. So I did not lose my investment.
You, or people you know said "not all their says spend their days on the forum" because they did not like seeing the NRS scam posts. Well they had two choices:
1) get out of the investment
2) Find someone else who can read the forum to protect their investment.
OH, I see, you did this one:
3) Wait until something happens and complain "hey! I don't want to spend their days reading the forum. I believe the dev will figure this out very well."
Well.. The dev is not your babysitter. Sorry to be so rude. But people really need to start hearing the truth at this point.
NO ONE is going to hold your hand in your investments. It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL.
I am not saying every developments and announcements should have been in every languages. I am saying that trading should have been blocked before the snapshot. I know it takes time for exchanges to respond, but it had to happen.
Exchanges announce when coins have wallet issues, deposit issues or when they kick the coins out. Most of investors look at the exchanges, not the forum.
Why are there still buy orders and trading volume in exchanges? Are you saying they are fully acknowledging the development but still are investing? Why let uninformed investors waste their money on dead coins? They have no idea what's going on! It is not just logical to me that you can just announce things on this forum and assume that everybody would know. Does noirshares website mention anything about snapshot? Is noirbittalk.org working? No
and your comments "People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin."
This is just wrong. If there was an issue, the issue has to be solved in mature, transparent manner. I'm not talking about those NRS trolls that are trolling because they lost money due to price dropped. I'm talking about people who didn't even realize their shares are destroyed completely.
And you said "Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too" " It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL."
Very true statement, but this doesn't apply here. It applies when NRS is on the market where people can bet on the future of NRS. It is 100% up to investors. but it doesn't apply when the shares are simply deleted by the development. Investors may assume that they might lose money by market not appreciating the value, but selected people's shares in their wallet are not supposed to be gone over night. If you are expecting every investors to go on the forum and read everything, and if that qualifies investors, NRS is not going to get big. Heavy investors with big cash in other alcoins or bitcoin 2.0 don't have to go on the forum and check everything out. They invest in coins that have intrinsic, technological values as a long term investment.
I'm not trying to talk bad about NRS. I have been investing since april quite a bit, and still a believer. I'm just pointing out the issue that might be a big problem in the future.
I'd like to point out that a developer does not control an exchange and its policies. My duty in that regard was to warn people here on the forum where i first made them aware of the software that there would be changes. After that i warned the exchanges, many times over and spoke with their personnel, after that there is little i can do.
I have looked at your issue and it will be addressed if the exchanges cooperate , however do not attempt to blame me over the issue. First and foremost I made as many people as possible aware of this and it has been going on for more than three weeks. And while most decent people do not spend their entire day on the forum, a simple weekly check on your investment would have showed you there were changes.
We live in a global world, and you are right, there should have been translations done , however the question becomes "done by whom?". I have always called on community members to participate and help with such issues with little or no response at all, as such there is little i can effect in that regard. Since you seem clearly invested and wish for there to be translations, would you like to lead by example?
I long ago asked for a Chinese translator since i intended to have a completely Chinese version of the wallet, NOONE responded to that. How then shall we proceed, am i to take classes in every language? And while i start working on language skills, Marketing and tech support....who will do the actual development?
I think it's unfair that you did not get the information on time and do not blame you, neither should you blame me, the situation will be addressed, but a realistic look at what i can control and cannot effect is required for us to find viable solutions. I value all of you and as a result i try to do things that are beneficial to the group, but I am only one man, and with our COO tied up trying to wade through the mess the last group of officers left, it leaves me little wiggle room and the work just piles up.
I just wished that it would've been more helpful if we waited longer until the exchanges respond and trading stopped before the snapshot, which would have led investors to find out why. Or at least noirds.com should've mentioned something.
I just expressed my concern about the this issue. I know how stressful coding is and I know you're doing your best
