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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bitcoin as a Sponsor for our School's Robotics Team on: August 27, 2011, 12:12:22 AM
I couldn't find the 2009 results mentioned above, but the 2010 results are damning enough by themselves. And I do have to second FAtlas' statement about the 50th percentile - it's sorta like trying to win points at the playground by saying that your dad washes the astronauts' suits, or saying your dad wouldn't lose too hard in a fight against another kid's dad. Adding dishonesty to the equation makes it even more of a bummer.  Sad

Here ya go my good bit-buddy: http://www.capitol-best.org/files/results/2009_scores.html

Good luck and godspeed!
or, as the robots would say, Beep boop, DESTROY ALL HUMANS

This is really disheartening... I guess in my heart of hearts I was holding out some hope that you were just trolling or trying to spread FUD; and that 2010 was just a fluke... but your link is completely accurate.  Undecided I think the worst part is that in the actual competition, where the Kings are crowned (so to speak), they finished an absolutely impotent 19th out of 25. Yeah, I really don't want the Bitcoin flag flying on the mast of such a mediocre ship - fly high like eagles, not in 19th place with the pigeons.

Besides, I think if Immanuel really liked Bitcoin so much, he'd be off spreading the word for free and not asking for handouts to do the honorable, heroic thing.  Sad
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bitcoin as a Sponsor for our School's Robotics Team on: August 26, 2011, 06:12:08 PM
Hey, so I checked that website you posted where you're always in the 50th percentile and this is what it said:

Out of 25 teams total

Overall - 23rd
Design Notebook - 24th
Spirit/Sportsmanship - 15th
Table Display/Interviews - did not participate
Head-to-Head - 19th
Website - did not participate

Unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't look like you were in the 50th percentile in a single category?  In your best category (sportsmanship), you were in the 40th percentile and overall you were in the 8th percentile.  Honestly, who brags about being in the 50th percentile to begin with.  

Please reconcile these concerns before I donate.

I have my doubts that this poster would ever donate, given his name, but he does raise a valid point. The 2010 results are posted at the Capitol Best site (as a sidenote, they could really use a decent web designer). There, Gateway High is listed as:
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13 62 Gateway High School 3.30 n/a 6.50 5.50 9.00 24.30
#13th overall, out of 24 schools. Interestingly, with only one exception, the teams below them did not participate in the Team Exhibit & Interview portion - if Gateway hadn't participated either, they would have dropped down to #17th overall (still ahead of the only other team ranked beneath them which also participated in the Team Exhibit portion). As far as their "Robot Performance" score, they were given the equivalent of a "C" grade - I guess that's technically right in the middle, but since there's no limit to the amount of "A" and "B" grades that can be attained, it seems pretty silly to use "percentile" to describe this. The official website describes their grade as resulting from performance in the "top 60%" of entrants - so theoretically you could be 60th out of 100 and still get this score.

Anyway, no matter how you cut it, 13th out of 24 is in no way the "50th percentile" overall. It's a sliver over the 45% mark. Very misleading.

What's even more alarming is that it seems like all teams are given the same "kit", and if this is like the high school Robotics competitions I'm aware of, all teams are expected to confine their designs to the parts supplied to them in the kit. So I'm not exactly sure what these donations are supposed to be going towards.  Huh

I couldn't find the 2009 results mentioned above, but the 2010 results are damning enough by themselves. And I do have to second FAtlas' statement about the 50th percentile - it's sorta like trying to win points at the playground by saying that your dad washes the astronauts' suits, or saying your dad wouldn't lose too hard in a fight against another kid's dad. Adding dishonesty to the equation makes it even more of a bummer.  Sad


The donations are for the Bitcoin banner placed above the table as the robot is being built. I think this is an excellent idea! Does anybody have a clue who the winner may be this year so we can approach them with this?



Please don't put a Bitcoin logo on the side of this robot. It would be so wrong. So please don't do it. If I had photoshop installed, I wouldn't do it. So please don't do it. OK? Thank you. I would truly hate to see it done. It's important to me that nobody does it. Good! With that said, although it would make me ROFLAO, it would be wrong. So let's move on, knowing that no one here will pick up the mantle and edit in a Bitcoin logo on this innocent looking robot, named Steve.


Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending


So basically, give money to Immanuel and a half-empty gymnasium full of mostly-bored parents and kids will see the word "BITCOIN" on a mid-tier robot by a slacker (16th out of 24 on "Notebook") school? And then the donated money is actually spent on... beer and candy bars or whatever?

Yeah, not really looking terribly attractive. Immanuel seems to be framing this as "your donations will help propel our entry towards the top", but in the end this is one of the rare few competitions that's truly about mental ingenuity and "intellectual Darwinism" rather than who has the most money or time to lift weights. The fact that this group regularly places below-average leads me to question its reputation amongst the other schools. I don't want the Bitcoin name tarnished by being associated with a mediocre laughingstock. Sad
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bitcoin as a Sponsor for our School's Robotics Team on: August 26, 2011, 04:41:27 PM
Hey, so I checked that website you posted where you're always in the 50th percentile and this is what it said:

Out of 25 teams total

Overall - 23rd
Design Notebook - 24th
Spirit/Sportsmanship - 15th
Table Display/Interviews - did not participate
Head-to-Head - 19th
Website - did not participate

Unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't look like you were in the 50th percentile in a single category?  In your best category (sportsmanship), you were in the 40th percentile and overall you were in the 8th percentile.  Honestly, who brags about being in the 50th percentile to begin with.  

Please reconcile these concerns before I donate.

I have my doubts that this poster would ever donate, given his name, but he does raise a valid point. The 2010 results are posted at the Capitol Best site (as a sidenote, they could really use a decent web designer). There, Gateway High is listed as:
Quote
13 62 Gateway High School 3.30 n/a 6.50 5.50 9.00 24.30
#13th overall, out of 24 schools. Interestingly, with only one exception, the teams below them did not participate in the Team Exhibit & Interview portion - if Gateway hadn't participated either, they would have dropped down to #17th overall (still ahead of the only other team ranked beneath them which also participated in the Team Exhibit portion). As far as their "Robot Performance" score, they were given the equivalent of a "C" grade - I guess that's technically right in the middle, but since there's no limit to the amount of "A" and "B" grades that can be attained, it seems pretty silly to use "percentile" to describe this. The official website describes their grade as resulting from performance in the "top 60%" of entrants - so theoretically you could be 60th out of 100 and still get this score.

Anyway, no matter how you cut it, 13th out of 24 is in no way the "50th percentile" overall. It's a sliver over the 45% mark. Very misleading.

What's even more alarming is that it seems like all teams are given the same "kit", and if this is like the high school Robotics competitions I'm aware of, all teams are expected to confine their designs to the parts supplied to them in the kit. So I'm not exactly sure what these donations are supposed to be going towards.  Huh

I couldn't find the 2009 results mentioned above, but the 2010 results are damning enough by themselves. And I do have to second FAtlas' statement about the 50th percentile - it's sorta like trying to win points at the playground by saying that your dad washes the astronauts' suits, or saying your dad wouldn't lose too hard in a fight against another kid's dad. Adding dishonesty to the equation makes it even more of a bummer.  Sad
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Questioning Satoshi Nakamoto's existence... on: August 19, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
If Satoshi mines a bitcoin and the network isn't around to see it, does it go in the blockchain?

Truly profound stuff  Huh Huh Huh
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Nice little game for Newbies on: August 19, 2011, 08:49:48 PM
While you wait to get free'd theres a game called minefeild where you gamble little amounts of bit coins by clicking on squares, the more squares you click on without setting off a mine, the more you win. The trick is really to cash out as soon as your up.

Here is a referal link, yes if you loose i will make 5%, http://goo.gl/yg5LC.

but i dont want people to think im spamming so heres an alternative with no referal info, minefield.bitcoinlab.org
I'm sure the speculators will love this  Grin
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie to this forum, Eager to PM a member! on: August 19, 2011, 08:48:56 PM
let me know what you guys want to PM to who and ill do it for you if you like, they finally accepted my membership here.
Within ten minutes of posting here, they'd be able to send the PM themselves.
Well, hey, every little bit helps, I guess!
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 19, 2011, 05:33:56 PM
Hi everyone, I am new to this Bitcoin things. I am Chinese coming from Hong Kong
Wow!  Shocked Bitcoin is very much a world-wide phenomena now. Smiley
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: August 19, 2011, 05:31:25 PM
Doesn't sound to unreasonable to me
It's spelled "too", mate.  Roll Eyes
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