True the odd are not great on Directbet. The worse odds you can find on Betvip.

And you believe that or are you naive? Take a look at the results on delicatetips on the day you did not receive tips from them.



After the losing days they showing 2 wins exactly on the day no one received their tips. That is how the sites of Water_kel doing it all the time on losing periods. Changing losing tips in winning tips, not sending tips but showing them as wins on their sites. Not showing losing tips and sending second mystery tips on Sunday, something the fixedmatches site normally never do, that no one except Water_kel has ever received.

Betterscocer tips did not update their stats for the last 4 days. They had to many losing days so that doesn't look good on their "80% win rate page". At the time they will update it, 15 December can show any results they want.

There will be winning days. Not even the worse predictor can lose every day and on the wining days everything will be fine. The stats will be real on those days and Water_kel will show up with the same arguments how good his picking sites are.

This site will be the number one.

PSV and Manchester United were the winnings yesterday. Tell me the 3rd one. I guess all the subscribers will happy to agree when you are right.

You still saying that Lille is the 3rd genuine winning tip? When are you done with this nonsenses?

You trying to say that you received messages from me asking you for money or do I misunderstand you here? Be clear about this.



How do you mean you respect your subscribers and changed it like they like it? The tips they received yesterday were 5 losses and 2 winnings. No more and no less. There is nothing to change about that in their favor or how they like it.

The only thing they like are real winnings from real tips. They don't like to pay and discover after their payment that you and all those picks sites of yours misleading them.

The first unedited post.


After comments from buyers with the real results.


Nice try to change a 2 win and 5 lose into a 3 win and 4 lose. That makes a lot of difference. 1 stake lost versus 3 stakes lost.

You added Lille “the mystery second tip of the day” to the winnings and with a vague statement you did not count Juan Aurich to the lost ones. That same game that still not shows up as a lost on their site.


Why can't we see the losing Udinese tip on the site?
How come that fixed matches offered a second tip on the same day? They offering one tip a day on the weekends as long as the history is telling us on their site
Why did the payers only received the losing tip?

You know the answers right? The second "mystery tip" did not exist at all or was not give away until the game was played and was a winner. The first losing tip just vanished from their site.


Two pick tipsters of Betbit are already busted with evidence and Water_Kel tried to do the same but was busted today.

Fixed matches with their 85% hit rate changing losing games in mystery never delivered winning games whenever they want or need.

DelicateTips shows a history of 5 years with winrates from 65% even to 89% but the domain exists for only a few months. The last weeks since they had real buyers of their tips, and therefore it is harder to fake the results, the losses are significant.

Looking to the third source.
bettersoccertips.com

They have two kind of tips. They call it white and ice tips. They showing results from April 2012. Again with insane win rates with more than 70%. Win rates that are impossible on the long term with 1.9 odds.

Look what happens when the subscription of this thread started on 10 December and everyone who paid following the real results, so it is harder to fake the stats.
Ice picks 1-4


white picks 1-3 and one draw.


2 wins and 7 losses.

For the insane results of the past take a look of the history.
http://www.bettersoccertips.com/white.html
http://www.bettersoccertips.com/ice.html

Same question. This sounds not good at all.

Thank you very much.

That’s not relevant what the old domain was. The old domain is a website with no content.

The new domain exists a few months but they showing a visitor their results of the tips for the last 5 years. They call it even “proven results”. The results of these so called “proven results” showing 52 months insane profits. Month in month out between 65% and 89% win rates. Not even famous professional sports betters can come even close to that.

Only one month out of these 52 months was a small losing month. That was 2 years ago with a win rate of 49%. Here is a screenshot as example for the insane so called “proven results” of 2013. You can check all the other years and months yourself. http://www.delicatetips.com/overall-performance.html



Since the last weeks they, and you, can’t fake the results anymore because now there are real buyers of the tips who following the results. And what happens? The dropping of the results are significant. The last week of November shows 10 loses and only 4 wins. December shows again disappointing results with only a 50% hit rate so far.

Your tips results are besides one small exception of a tiny profit only losing days and we don't even know what the results were of yesterday. The loses adds up on high speed.

Normally you show up on the forum all the time. Trying to be the nice with some offers to buy 2 tips for "only" 0.1 BTC or giving away some free tips. Although every day it will be harder to convince the readers of your profitable predictions. Predictions that makes it worth to invest 0.8 BTC or 280 dollars for a month. You call that cheap but all the other pickers on this forum asking at most 10% of that amount, doing it for free or giving free months to everyone with decent results.

You were online a few hours ago after the games, but you didn’t say anything. Not surprising when you had another losing day. You can't lose every day so we can expect that you have some winning days, like every guy who bets on sports or flipping a coin. Maybe you going to celebrate these days on the forum. However, the overall results will never be even close to that impossible 65-85% win rate.

You're doing well.

What is the best place to buy clams with Bitcoins or dollars for the best price?

To begin with one of these "tipsters". Delicatetips.com is a proven scam.

http://www.who.is/whois/delicatetips.com/
Expires On July 05, 2015
Registered On July 05, 2014
Updated On July 05, 2014

Their stats are fake. The website exists since July 2014 and not for 5 years as they claimed. The 5 years of games history is fake. You're saying that no fake stats were found on all of your tipsters. You were wrong. You or "your team" paying hundreds or thousands of dollars per month for the tips and you didn't know this? Hard to believe.

Read the review on http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/2973741-delicatetips.html
You will understand why the profits of this websites dropped since the last weeks. Since they exists only for a few months they recently found some buyers of their picks so they can’t fake the stats no longer. If you are too lazy to read that thread here is a screenshot of a guy that did some research. He posted this less than 2 weeks ago.




Your other tipster the Fixed Archive Matches "the hidden website" you can find on many websites. Good reasons for you to hide the website. You don't need be that smart to understand that there is something wrong with it.


Examples of the same websites are here http://mozzart1x2.blogspot.nl/2014/09/sms-tip-of-day-2330-santos-goias-1-1.html and here http://jovanpfc.blogspot.nl/2014/09/sms-tip-of-day-2330-santos-goias-1-1.html.
Same games as your screenshot and the smiles or v's on the wins and the last postponed game. The only difference is the price on each website. On the websites you find tons of glimmering banners restricting to other vague websites that using the same concept.


This concept of selling "great tipsters" for "a low price" is made up by shady vague companies. Most of them are Asian companies. They offer a loan to people like this guy of this thread to sell the concept on forums or websites or whatever how they can sell it. This guy is just an employee for that company. Requirements are that you can write and understand English and when you have no issues knowing that you selling fake products, you have the job. They have a lot of concepts. Sport-betting is booming business so this is one of them. All of the tipster websites are owned by the same companies. They have hundreds of those websites.

They promise you winrates of 70% or higher like 80%. Everyone who knows a little bit about sports-betting knows that 70%-80% long term with spread odds of decimal 1.90 or USA -110 is impossible. The best punters out there are happy with 54-56%. Only a few highly experienced people can make that.

People who paid for the tips will from now on watching the real results on the tipster websites so they simply kicking out one or more of their own tipster websites of the tipster package when the tips are not profitable. They replace it for another one of their owned websites with fake stats. The stats will be real from the day that the buyers will follow the results.

The websites that failed the last period now with the real results stays online for the crazy ones that buying the tips directly from the website. There is always somewhere out there with some cash and highly believes.



They aiming for at least finding subscribers for the first month and when they are lucky and the tips give some profit they can continue with second month and so on. Lucky as like more than 50-50 of winnings. The tips are not professional and on the long term they have a maximum of 50-50 winrate like all the other free tips you can find on the internet. In most cases it is less than 50-50. Even with that maximum of 50-50 you will lose a lot of money because you pay a spread to the bookmakers. You can flip a coin for free and safe your money.

When the first month is a lucky month the thread will attract more followers. The price will be higher for new and current subscribers to make sure to make a fast profit for the second month before the losing month occurs. On a losing month some subscribers will stay some longer even when the tips are losing or less profitable than was claimed. They get a discount or something to make sure that they try it for another month and seeing that "new and better tipsters" replaced the old ones. They still hoping for that skyrocket 70% to 80% winrate that no one on this earth can make with the spread 1.90 odds.

Nitrogensports 4.5
Overall a good website with nice odds. Not having the 0.25/0.75 handicap is the only thing I don't like.

Gobetgo 4.5
Nice odds and a lot of options to bet on but withdraws are process manually so it takes a while.

Directbet 4
Fast and easy but the odds are not the best.

Betcoinsports.com 3.5
Same looks as Gobetgo but a slower website, more bugs, less games and lower overall odds. You can check this yourself.

Casinobitco.in 2.5
Homepage looks promising but the sportsbook interface is bad and browsing is a pain. There are not many bet options per game. Odds are not bad, but not the best.

Cloudbet 2
Nice design but impossible to make profit on longer term because the overall odds are bad. 4-6% lower than average.

Betvip 1
The overall odds are the lowest I ever seen. It is shameless and I consider this as a scam. Check the odds yourself when reading this. 8-15+% lower odds than average. Don't go here if you like your money. Even the best professional punters will lose their money. To the owner of this website: you can make enough money with normal odds. Your greediness is stunning, shame on you.