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1  Other / Meta / Re: Who do you ignore? on: September 14, 2011, 08:46:44 PM
Synaptic
the joint
Surawit
FreeMonies

Probably more in the future as my tolerance for bullshit is getting lower all the time
WHAT THE FLIP? Welcome to my ignore list, geek-lamer

seriously you are missing out, my posts are best thing about these boards. Possibly the best thing about bitcoins in general, too. And you know it deep down. That's why when you see this post you're going to be curious and click the "show post" toggle.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A GIFT TO THE COMMUNITY on: September 14, 2011, 03:21:59 PM
Someone running a bitcoin business being........ dishonest ??!??!

I'll get CNN on the line, this is breaking news
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What I have spent my 40.5 BTC Bitlotto winnings on so far... on: September 14, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
Um... It seems you actually bought ~one hundred and fifty pounds sterling. Why didn't you spend the bitcoins directly? You could have bought slim jims or something.
4  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Bitcoin + บรู๊ซ ว๊ากเนอร์ + พัทยา = ดราม่าาาาา (Thai thread) on: September 14, 2011, 01:12:41 AM
Maybe you should print something out and stick it up around the place, y'know for if he comes back?

5  Other / Meta / Re: Proposition: Forum Entry Should Cost 1 Bitcoin (about $10) on: September 14, 2011, 01:01:57 AM
People suggesting a reddit/metafilter/slashdot style meta-moderating system are making the dangerous assumption that 'legitimate users' outnumber the trolls
6  Other / Meta / Proposition: More moderators on: September 13, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
There are too many trolls posting in the forum. They say these crazy, totally unbelievable things... "Bitcoin isn't worthless", "I just got scammed" etc. I propose that I am made a global moderator immediately to fix this situation.

i just want to bbe a moderator
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tulip industry now worth over $1 billion dollars per annum on: September 13, 2011, 04:30:25 PM
The moons were just rising in the Summer sky, Clotho almost full, Atropos gibbous, Lachesis still below the horizon, the evening light blueing the sunset red and gold. When Jack Palin took him aside, Toby wondered for a moment what it was about, until Jack took the print of an email from his pocket and showed it to him. Ah - Bitcoin Conference 2012!

"Toby, what do you know about this?"

"Bitcoin" said Toby. Jack nodded, mute. "Dave told me about it when he came home last year. What he said, it's some sort of peer-to-peer cryptocurrency"

Jack's face was a picture. "You're not joshing me?"

Toby shook his head. "Nope. It's the real thing, apparently."

"Did you get an invitation to this conference thing?"

Toby nodded, and grinned at his friend. "Yep, sure did."

"You going?"

"I am. Look, Jack, you're a normal, red-blooded, male, right?" Jack nodded. "Bitcoin offers you the guarantee of meeting a guy every week, and the knowledge that the meeting is so that you both can get laid. What's not to like?"

Jack grinned. "When you put it like that, nothing. I'm not ready for commitment, anyway, but I surely do like the idea of getting laid."

"Come on, we only have ten more minutes until class. We'll go to the conference together, okay?"

*

Toby looked around, wondering if he was doing the right thing, or a little out of his mind. From the looks on some of the faces, others were wondering the same thing. At the front of the room, Bruce Wagner stood up, waiting a moment for the hubbub of conversation to die. He looked around at the expectant faces, and grinned.

"Welcome to Pattaya. More particularly, welcome to BitCon 2012," he said, "perhaps better known to a lot of us as The Sex Society." He waited a moment to let the cheer die away. "I'd just like to remind you of what it's all about. About ten months ago, two bitcoin supporters were discussing sex on IRC. As we all know, sex is the forbidden fruit for bitcoin proponents. Cryptocurrency projects comes a poor second to their repressed, unsatisfied carnal lusts. Yeah, right. Calm down. Anyway, they were discussing sex. Our founder had remarked to his friend, in bed, just after they'd been enjoying each other, asking why couldn't things be simplified? Why couldn't everyone on the blockchain just admit they were just as horny as everyone else?"

"It took a few more conversations before they came up with the idea of random pairing. Peer A is linked with peer J, peer C with peer A, and so on, for a night of sex. No strings, no recriminations, just two guys having fun with each others bodies. Next week, a different partner. Whether any of the couples got together at other times was up to them, but on a Friday night, with no conference bookings on a Saturday, the men would link up with that days allocation, and both of them would know that the other expected sex."

Please send 1 BTC to the address below and I will continue to write Bitcoin slash fiction. Or alternatively send me 2 BTC, and I will cease to write Bitcoin slash fiction.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tulip industry now worth over $1 billion dollars per annum on: September 13, 2011, 04:08:26 PM
VERY MISLEADING.

You can use tulips to get a girlfriend. Nobody is wooing anyone with bitcoins.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2011, 02:44:16 PM
Let's face it, chances are "Satoshi Nakamoto" is the handle of an anime-obsessed otaku Japanophile white american nerd too. He has never written anything in Japanese. Nothing about him points to Japan except his pseudonym. So pointing to him does seem a little hollow
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2011, 12:37:20 PM
I'm quite surprised this thread even exists among this community. Out of all the people in the world i though you guys would know that race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
err yes, race is social construct. and?
racism is still a powerful and pervasive force in our societies, we are one generation from

but apparently now it's no longer  a problem and hey if we all bury our heads in the sand and pretend that white privelege no longer exists everything will be A-OK

Again, I'm not complaining that there are few black people here. I recognise that the techie nature makes the landscape more like northern canada (although presumably there are women in northern canada. whats your excuse for the gender imbalance?)... It's a natural consequence of the territory. However, it being 'natural' doesn't make it positive. And we can't stay in northern canada forever. At some point, bitcoin needs to expand to the rest of the world.

But does nobody else think it is a bad thing that bitcoin is dominated by white dudes? You idiots mock the idea of even pausing for a second to analyse the consequences of that.
I think there should be a concerned effort increase the diversity of the bitcoin  userbase, because the bitcoin economy will only succeed when it is true representative of wider legacy-currency using society. We need everyone to use bitcoins, not just white nerds... An economy cannot sustain itself on slim jims, mountain dew and RAM upgrades alone. And by it's nature there is a risk of moving bitcoin into a 'niche' in which we control the wealth. Once we are in there it's going to be difficult to move out of.
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 09:45:15 PM
More subtle next time please, this is no fun at all.
Yeah, I agree, there are some gullible idiots on this forum (imagine that? it's almost as if bitcoin attracts them somehow)... But a black Iowan? Please.

BitcoinPorn, your powers of observation amaze me to no end. I have indeed been ignoring your posts after telling you to fuck off. This is entirely intentional; you have demonstrated your racism clear enough, and I do not wish to derail this topic arguing against that. Furthermore it seems foolish to argue about matters such as equality and ethics with a pornographer... Oh, sorry, I'm the one trolling.
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 09:18:15 PM
It's the same systemic bias lots of nerdy computer projects have. Please excuse the following potentially racist speculation: black people have more trouble acquiring the money, encouragement, and time to be a computer hobbyist. Bitcoin is still a luxury.

It's a problem. In fact, a group of people frequently abused by cops, voters, and regressive inflation taxes might have a lot to gain from Bitcoin. So what can we do to counter this bias?
A. Nothing. If/when Bitcoin goes mainstream, everyone will use it anyways.
B. Focus on projects which will benefit black people.
C. Inform blacks in your community about Bitcoin.
D. Donate Bitcoins or Bitcoin-related USD profits to black charities. That will get their attention! :-)

Probably more I didn't think of. The main benefit is of course that the internet is post-racial, and the efforts of racists here will inevitably fail. In not kept down, blacks will rise up.
Thanks for this response, it was the sort of thing I was expecting: More people with a positive attitude towards improving the situation, rather than just flat-out denying a problem exists
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
you people have no idea what trolling is, do you? As soon as I actually stopped trolling on this forum, I am accused of it with every post. sigh.

I mean, I make a thread about literally printing the blockchain in a series of books and nobody bats an eye.  But you make one thread discussing the wider societal implications of the success of bitcoin... and suddenly everyone is crying out because of the nasty troll. Get a clue.

It's kindof predictable though: such decrying tactics are typical responses from those who are yet to confront their own privileges. They are simple deflections, to avoid and delegitimise awkward questions about equality and race...
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 08:49:49 PM
No it would not be. Nobody is barring non-white people from Bitcoin. There is no oppression. There is no far-right neo-nazi agenda. It's just a matter of culture. African-Americans predominantly don't have an interest in open-source P2P currency projects. Society is not going to crumble into a Caucasian-driven tyranny because of this. Cultures may change, adapt, stagnate and so forth but nobody is going to be "oppressed" because of predominate interests among them.
Historically for much of the time voting was not restricted to whites or males, just to landowners. It just so happened that almost all the landowners were white males.

A Bitcoin economy would be the same: The people with power would be the early adopters (that's us! woo!), who are overwhelmingly white and male.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 08:39:10 PM
Thanks for reading the topic beyond the title guys, I can see why people complain about this forum  Roll Eyes

I know why black people don't use bitcoins, its because bitcoiners are almost exclusively nerdy white guys. What I'm asking: In the future when bitcoin is in everyday use (and each coin is therefore massively valuable), the early adopters holding lots of currency are going to wield tremendous power in society. Would the lack of diversity amongst this group not be dangerous for wider society? It would be like only allowing white males to vote.

Even if it isn't going to be dangerous, will it be percieved to be dangerous? In this age of unparalled equality of opportunity, will the rest of the world happily accept a new economic order in which (surprise!) white guys are right at the top again? These are legitimate questions.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
Only if you allow it to be with bullshit old school way of thoughts like this.

I bet you support things holding back society like Black History Month too?

Such a shit thread.     Less racism, less sexism, was already existing in Bitcoin.  Only old school ways of thoughts will keep it from progressing further imo.
AND WHERE IS OUR WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION?

Fuck off back to stormfront please, this topic is for serious discussion.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 08:03:35 PM
Simple question: I'd like to discuss the demographics of the bitcoin community.

Why are there no people of color promoting bitcoin? What is it about bitcoin that disproportionately attracts white males? Could this extreme lack of diversity be ultimately harmful to bitcoin?

I've been following the bitcoin phenomenon for several months now. I've watched hundreds of youtube videos, read the blogs, seen the posts here, seen the conference footage from NYC... and until Bill Cosby I don't think I've seen a single African-American. OK that's not entirely true, I once spotted a dude who was in the onlyonetv studios once between broadcasts and he didn't speak at all.

From my perspective at the moment it seems the bitcoin proponents are almost entirely rich, white males with the occasional bored-looking female hanging around... Bitcoin, in a sense, could be viewed as a mechanism for prolonging the economic and social dominance of white males at the expense of everyone else. As we move towards a less racist, less sexist, more egalitarian society... Will bitcoin be a step backwards? [Well obviously it'll be a step forwards for us, but its going to be worse for everyone else]
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legitimization and Inevitability of Bitcoin on: September 12, 2011, 03:49:26 AM
i'll bet its per post isn't it?
Yeah. I'm freelancing atm, but I've heard there are a couple of salaried trolling positions opening up soon... they really don't like bitcoins! The pay is definitely nothing special but the benefits are great (full health+dental). Way better than my last gig trolling homeopathic forums on behalf of pfizer
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legitimization and Inevitability of Bitcoin on: September 12, 2011, 03:42:21 AM
yes it is.  how much do they pay you to troll, Surawit?  is it worth it given the shellacking you're taking?  it must be hourly b/c you sure are wasting a lot of valuable time trying to discredit something you despise so much.  don't you have anything better to do?
Sorry, I find it horribly vulgar to discuss wages, and I don't think the guys at the lodge would be too happy with me if I did either lol
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: High-resolution images of physical bitcoins on: September 12, 2011, 03:38:58 AM
It's really funny, isn't it?  It's as if everything built on top of it has been given the exact opposite amount of care originally put into the bitcoin concept.

Proof of work?  The double-spending problem solved?  A distributed P2P ledger?  Brilliant!  Now please tell me the quickest way I can give money to a stranger to hold them somewhere in the cloud for me...

Shit, they got stolen.  Well, I guess the whole point is to keep them on my _own_ machine, so that I'm in control of my own financial destiny.  Fuck Bernanke!  It's like I keep telling my friend Steve...

Shit, they got stolen.  Ooh, shiny physical Bitcoins!  See, just read the number right here where it says, "Casascius"-- I mean, "Casacius"-- wait...
This leads me to think the whole thing is an elaborate social experiment. "Satoshi" whoever she/he/they may be, released bitcoin and have just sat back and watched events unfold. If she/he/they were still participating I'd expect to see an ounce of brilliance shining somewhere from the last two years.

I'm sure he's a straight-up guy, but hypothetically what is to stop casascicus storing all the private keys? At any point in the future - tomorrow, five years, thirty years... he could transfer some or all of the value of the unredeemed coins into an address controlled by him. It would take a while - maybe years - for anyone to even notice, you'd have to try and redeem it yourself. And even if you did notice, how could you prove it was him and not someone else who had access to your coin in the intervening time? You couldn't even prove that you hadn't already redeemed it yourself. The whole concept is taking everything that is good and secure about bitcoin and shitting all over it.

That said, great idea for a novelty memento, I'm sure they will sell like hot cakes for that reason alone
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