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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - CURECOIN TEAM HAS TAKEN RANK 1 ON FOLDING@HOME!!! on: September 13, 2018, 06:22:12 AM
Folding Club is Back for September 

"... What's the #1 Rule of Folding Club?"
Tell Your Friends About Folding Club! Grin
It only takes 10 Work Units on NaCl to qualify (more is better; full client will increase our collective donation)
We're currently limited to 100 participants

Fold Proteins to Win Prizes, Help Researchers, Create a Donation to Antimicrobial Research UK ... and support the Folding Club Cloud Demo Office

Quick instruction Video:
https://twitter.com/CureCoinProject/status/1036715123631484928

Share this with friends for a laugh:
https://twitter.com/DoesURDogBite/status/1040112235975127041

This is a merge-folding collaboration between the Curecoin and FoldingCoin Teams. It demonstrates what larger organizations like corporations, schools and social clubs could do to encourage folding, and help fund their favorite projects and charities. AKA pooled-folding to help curb individual folding silos.

Good Luck - Happy Folding
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: February 16, 2017, 08:28:13 PM
SigmaX/CureCoin 2.0.0b3 beta schedule announcement (plan of record 02/16/17).

Vorksholk has submitted a new SigmaX build to CureCoin's internal beta team with updated features* (below)


Approximate Timeframe

1. Begin private testnet on 02/16/17 for a duration of ~two weeks (accessible by core beta team only)
2. Analysis and debugging phase for ~two weeks
3. Announce preliminary results (go to step 4, OR begin new internal testnet with new bug fixes - consider expanding internal beta test team).
4. Begin public testnet for ~one month IF build is ready
5. Final debugging and analysis phase for ~two weeks  
6. Announce results from public testnet (how many blocks mined, number of transactions, etc).      
7. Set official GA date, or go back thru step 4 for further refinement.

* updated features - compared to previous SigmaX beta versions:

   1. Now Using a hash-based radix tree for storing balance
   2. Expanded RPC functionality (enough to make a basic block explorer or exchange)
   3. Various networking code fixes (better peer discovery is a work in progress based on testnet results)
   4. Miscellaneous smaller changes
      Block header format is easier to work with and includes more data
      PoW now includes ledger hash
      Fixes for signature index ordering/recall in the mempool to handle multiple transactions from one address at a time

The CureCoin team reserves the right to modify schedules and beta release versions as required.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: November 25, 2016, 01:05:00 AM
Happy Thanksgiving from the CureCoin Team!

To better differentiate the CureCoin digital currency from the CureCoin llc Folding Pool, Cloud Folding Services and Charitable Giving; CureCoin llc has created an official 501(c)3 charitable division called "The CureCoin Project" using a fiscal sponsorship from Visions Made Viable:

https://www.curecoin.net/2-uncategorised/94-curecoin-fiscal-sponsorship-announcement

Phase 1 of of the Fiscal Sponsorship is completed. Fiat donations can now help fund cloud folding at the Michigan facility. The resulting CURE can be invested back into the lab, donated to charities, or burned to increase scarcity. Several key pieces of the cloud folding system were dontated by Ed Olkkola (the world's number one protein folder).

In the near-term, Phases 2 and 3 will allow CureCoin to accept tax deductable bitcoin and altcoin donations through Coinpayments.net to expand cloud folding, help with coin development and marketing, and in the case of donated CURE, allow curecoin holders an avenue to make their CURE donations tax deductible - funding CureCoin llc selected charities (including Pande Labs) in the process.

Visions Made Viable has given CureCoin llc exclusive use of their Amazon Smile channel for The CureCoin Project, so that when you add "Visions Made Viable" to your Amazon Smile account, Amazon retail division contributes a small percentage of your purchase price on YOUR behalf to support Cloud Folding on Folding@home - at no cost to you.

We're very proud of this achievement. We've been working on it since late July - contacting about 250 sponsoring organizations, speaking with about 20 of those, submitting an extensive application and charitable giving plan - and finally deciding to go with "Visions Made Viable" charity incubator run by Prof. Roger Morton of California State University Long Beach. Special thanks go out to Mr. G. Camaj for bringing the possibilities of Fiscal Sponsorship to light.

Some other points:

For Vorksholk's latest updates on blockchain developments, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=603757.msg16705626#msg16705626
Very interesting developments coming from his continued work.

To answer the question about distribution of donated funds ... Not all donated CURE go to charities. We have used converted donated CURE (both through the website and through PS3EdOlkkola's account) to fund items like vps hosting, wallet updates, website migration to curecoin.info which includes an integrated Cloud Folding store (when you want to boost your output) and Spanish language install/configuration guides. We have a newly designated webmaster for the homepage transition username "drhimura"; our core team member from Spain.


4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: October 17, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
BTW, I am folding away, for almost ten years now.
I will try to convince GPU miners on local forum to switch to Cure.
What happened to http://1.curecoinmirror.com/calculatordemo.html?
It would help a lot in convincing them.

Great to have you on board folding for CURE. We always welcome experienced folders in our forum to help newbs.
There's no better way to re-purpose unprofitable GPU mining equipment than to put it to work folding proteins - and with merged folding (you get CURE plus Counterparty Tokens (FLDC,Scotcoin,MagicFLDC,PepeCash)), so your recommendation to GPU miners is golden. Combined this actually makes folding profitable on newer GPU hardware.

Yes - the profitability calculator disappeared after a server migration (along with its source  Angry ). We have to ask you to refer to the manual instructions until Vorksholk or I can get it re-written:

https://www.curecoin.net/knowledge-base/14-knowledge-base/about-curecoin/16-how-is-the-currency-divided-up/#ProfitabilityCalculator

or to get a rough idea of the cost per coin based an 12 different hardware profiles:

http : // tinyurl . com / curecoin-costs-of-folding-2016
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: October 17, 2016, 12:42:12 AM
So you guys definitely do not know what created September price hike?

We have some thoughts, but nothing is definite. As far as anyone knows, it could be the US government using confiscated bitcoins to help boost participation in DCN research they seed through the NIH and NSF. Pande Lab and Folding@home receive NIH and NSF funding, while BOINC no longer does, but many of its underlying projects do. If you’ve notice, all three science coins (CURE, FLDC and GRC) got a significant boost, so whomever it is, they are NOT playing favorites.

I'm sure every coin has approached people like Mark Cuban and other members of the Shark Tank ... could be one of them. Cuban doesn't believe in bitcoin, but appreciates "the blockchain".

Ummm ... Paul Allen?

It's anyone's guess really :-)

I myself have no idea how is the monetization of Curecoin possible in the first place. I thought that the value of Curecoin comes from people who buy Curecoin for $$$ and then donate them to Curecoin project.
Is that correct?

I would start by trying Stanford’s Folding@home software for yourself to see how the Work Units are processed on your own computer, and sent back to Stanford for evaluation. http://folding.stanford.edu/

You’re not alone in the assumption CureCoin is a donation based system. The answer is simply "NO"!

76% of the the value of curecoin is derived from our team member’s actually participating in Folding@home and letting their PCs and Macs contribute computing cycles to the underlying medical research. The more people participate in CureCoin, the more computational cycles each curecoin represents (and the value theoretically goes higher).

Here’s how the coins are divided: https://www.curecoin.net/knowledge-base/14-knowledge-base/about-curecoin/16-how-is-the-currency-divided-up

If you want to see where Protein Folding research comes into the FDA drug approval process (the one recognized in practically every country on earth), read this CureCoin article: https://www.curecoin.net/2-uncategorised/84-curecoin-two-year-ann-focus-on-science

We do collect donations for up to five different charities, as well as funds that help the CureCoin core developers maintain the folding pool, websites and social media presence.

In the near future, we will actually allow donors to contribute directly to cloud folding - more on that in an upcoming announcement.

I understand why Bitcoin for example can be monetized: people buy Bitcoin for $$$ and use them to buy stuff on Darknet or pay cryptoware ransoms. And there are chinese billionaires who need to move their billions out of the country so they buy Bitcoins in China and exchange them for dollars out of China. So suddenly bits of ones and zeros called Bitcoins have monetary value.

There are dark aspects to any new commodity/property - some physical commodities like gold, silver and diamonds share the same dark moral undertones. Now China is hoarding rare-earth minerals in order to stay competitive.

The bits of 1s and 0s that are part of any cryptocurrency (generated by the HashCash mining algorithm for bitcoin) are not easily produced. Neither are the Work Units produced by protein folders. That’s why we attempt to equate the 1s and 0s to medical research rather than purely “securing the network” via SHA-256 (HashCash) mining alone. Just like bitcoin or Ethereum, Curecoin includes a “controlled supply”. Which means the there are block reward halving periods every 4 years to account for Moore’s law.

As to what you can buy outside of peer-to-peer transactions with CURE (where you actually have consumer protections)? There are altcoin markets being created on systems like www.Coinpayments.net (which allow any business to register to accept CureCoins). There’s a modest but growing market there.

I understand that altcoins like Ethereum/Libry/Monero have some specific features that make people buy them instead Bitcoin.

But who buys Cure for $$$? Who wants Cure? How is it possible it can be exchanged for Bitcoins and then those Bitcoins exchanged for $$$?

CureCoin’s value proposition comes from the underlying computational biology research and the ability of the currency to maintain security. Right now CureCoin produces about 10-12% of all computations on the Folding@home network. This equates to about 10 petaFLOPS of medical computation research. If you convert that into running those protein simulations on a supercomputer, it equates to multi-millions of dollars per year of computing power: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-top-producing-foldinghome-teams-like-curecoin-used-ivan-tuma

About 19% of all CureCoin includes coins produced by the HashCash Proof-of-Work mining algorithm (like bitcoin) in order to help secure our network (although similar to PeerCoin, we also have very broad Proof-of-Stake participation to secure the network - the CureCoin QT-wallet holders earn something akin to “interest” based on how many coins they hold).

As to who buys or who wants CureCoin? People who believe in a better world. They believe the coin will develop greater value in the future as the accelerated research leads to more efficacy in drug compounds, personalized medicines, custom enzymes and nanotechnology.

Incidentally the results from FAH are publically available (open source), so we are not helping any one particular big-pharma entity, or anything like that. Everyone has equal access.


Can somebody elaborate because it boggles my mind.

Hopefully that helps answer some of your questions. I would start with reading through the CureCoin knowledgebase to get a fuller understanding about the Coin design: https://www.curecoin.net/knowledge-base

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: August 15, 2016, 08:49:46 AM
There won’t be a third coin. The technology Vorksholk is referencing is meant to be a part of CC 2.0/SigmaX. It was discovered to be a key component during development of the SigmaX branch (it happened to be part of ongoing work Vorksholk’s been involved with on an unrelated project as Cygnus and Vork indicated).

As most followers know, there are two devs (one dedicated to blockchain and one to the folding pool). We do have a third developer signing up to help (a CS prof). We will make a follow-up announcement once his assignments become official.

We do have a roadmap (parts of it have been a moving target, true). We use project management and bug tracking software internally. We can work on posting something more detailed here, or in the CureCoin homepage. Incidentally we have a new homepage and forum about to launch in September.

Point taken the social media posts & content verge on amateurish (thanks for the input). Professional videos, marketing content, professional social media managers and original art can be very costly. We’ve had some people get enthusiastic about making professional videos and providing market consulting - then go silent after learning there wasn’t an overnight payday with CURE. We welcome CureCoin holders and folders to produce content and share the vision of CureCoin on social media (Dogecoin has 121,000 hits on Youtube - we have 663. I guarantee the Doge core team didn't produce all that media content  Cheesy

We have five (5) social media channels to maintain along with user support on the forum and IRC. Twitter is so fluid, social media managers have to just “react” to current events (like Olympic coverage). For major blockchain and FINTECH related conferences, we've tried to time our posts with individual speaker’s schedules (It would be nice if all “20 year olds” were that clever, no?).

We have tens of thousands of views per month and thousands of "organically grown" followers (many with hundreds of thousands of followers themselves). We have over 8000 registered accounts on the folding pool and over 4800 registered folders. There are over 11000 wallet addresses showing on Chainz. We produce 8%-10% of Folding@home PPD points depending on the day. We also work hard to attract a diverse crowd - which sometimes means taking time to explain FAH and CureCoin to a college kid in Ghana who wants to get his teacher to install it in their lab.

Did I mention the Cloud Folding Service that has demonstrated people from around the world are willing to pay for folding power in exchange for CURE?

What you probably haven’t paid attention to is the work it takes to bring some the Stanford published papers down to layman's terms. As part of boosting CureCoin on social media, we also transcribe some of the work being done by Folding@home and Pande Labs. They don’t do the best job in bringing their results to a non-technical level - it reads like gobbledygook to the dilettante participant. This is a challenge, but Pande group has acknowledged several posts and articles we’ve made in bringing their work “down-to-earth”.

We've converted 100’s of thousands of CURE into donations across seven charities and growing (mostly medical and education related - one literally life-saving). We've started talking to organizations about getting a 501(c)3 sponsorship to make donations and cloud folding officially part of our charitable giving model (so you can write off some of these CURE if you want to donate them to the causes we support, or donate to commission Cloud Folding Service).

You're right, we have a great opportunity; we have a coin that works, for a purpose it was designed for - providing a real-world benefit. We agree with the the lack of frequent releases (we’ve all perused “Code Complete”), but we also want to get it right.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: August 06, 2016, 11:20:40 AM

CureCoin's Mid-Year 2016 Donations Announced

Inc:

  • Donor Acknowledgements
  • Antimicrobial Research UK
  • Bonfils Blood Center
  • Dream Medical Center Rwanda
  • ThumbsUp! International
  • Kids Compassion Charity Donation
  • Pande Labs Folding@home Donation
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - 3/21/2016 SigmaXcoin Beta Download + Crowd Sale Active Now! on: April 21, 2016, 09:54:28 AM

There is literally nothing on the website that talks about what Curecoin is actually accomplishing, future goals, or how the computing power is being utilized

You're really asking CureCoin, a folding team specializing in cryptocurrency, to speak and publish on behalf of Pande Labs and Folding@Home - a group of molecular biologists who take months between publishing academic papers. Much of this research is just entering its infancy. Pande Labs is developing algorithms using deep learning to narrow the search for drugable states of proteins. With next generation hardware, they will be able to take advantage of the resources our community provides. Unfortunately, if they don't publish it, we can't make it up  Lips sealed And what they do publish is sometimes too difficult for the layman to interpret without waiting for a medical journal article to be published months later.
 
Occasionally we beat them to the punch however - reporting on Pande Lab and Folding@Home community progress using social media before they have a chance to publish on their own web pages:

We are actually all proud of this one: Conformational heterogeneity of the calmodulin binding interface

"Finally, our model predicts a novel binding interface that is well-populated in the Ca2+-bound regime and, thus, a candidate for pharmacological intervention"

Through social media, we've reported on articles which reference Her2 Kinase discoveries related to the treatment of Breast and Prostate Cancers as well as drug compounds uncovered by the Folding@Home community currently in trials by the NIH for the treatment of Alzheimer's.

HKUST (Stanford's partner University in Hong Kong) is currently processing the results from a year of running Diabetes Type II beta sheet simulations. I believe thanks in part to the HEAVY lift of the CureCoin team early on with Chrome NaCl work units run in the AWS cloud, they were able to collect results ahead of schedule - but since they have a policy of being "team agnostic", no single team will ever be recognized, and we really feel too humble to constantly tout our numbers (like moving into the #4 spot on Folding@home in under a year (in Folding@Home's 15 year history).

If you look at the folding@home reddit ... you'll find many of the top up-voted posts and suggestions come from CureCoin team members. And many of our members are beta testers for new projects and work units coming out of Folding@home. So they sacrifice their points so the whole community can fold without hardware or software related interruptions.

We'll try to publish more science to the home page in the future. I'm thinking of highlighting some of the research discoveries in the May post. Also we're looking at starting a weekly email newsletter exclusively for folders.

Thanks for the suggestions.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: March 23, 2016, 05:48:59 AM
The 3 test crowd sales will be for the following items;

1. Overall development of Curecoin including websites, social media, promotional materials (pretty much everything already listed in the uses for the developer fund)

2. Fundraisers that have curecoins already donated to them, including
     a.ANTRUK: Learn More on the ANTRUK homepage. http://www.antibioticresearch.org.uk/
     b.Bonfils: Learn More on the Bonfils Blood Center homepage. http://www.bonfils.org/index.cfm/medical-services/research/

One thing that may help convince potential crowd fund participants ... these coins are coming from funds donated by PS3EdOlkkola.

Ed donates ALL his coins back to the team to split between funding development and marketing of CureCoin to the causes listed on our homepage. Ed is ranked #3 on Folding@Home of all time folders in FAH's 15+ year history. He folds more proteins than the next 7 folders on our team combined. His facility is a data-center located in a hospital building he owns. Ed probably folds more than the bottom 70% of our team of 6000 user accounts COMBINED. Chances are, if you purchased coins on the exchange, they included some of Ed's donation.

So these coins are "special"; they are not "Dev Funds", they are not coins that were purchased from the exchange at a fraction of the actual production costs. These coins represent FAH research. I hope that helps clarify where these coins originated, and the reason we are reluctant to dump them on the exchanges for a mediocre payout after months of work required to sell them without negatively impacting the price. Consider these Crowd Sale coins as a nod to Ed's generous contribution to the team.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: March 12, 2016, 11:40:15 PM
Almost every FLOSS software project in the world is underfunded.

Wikipedia (not quite FLOSS but similar) have to mislead users to get the amount of donations they get.

I recommend the devs hardfork to increase the development fund, be this by simply awarding themselves coins, or by increasing the % of new coins they get.
I don't believe a hardfork is the answer at least in the short term, cc2.0 will need a hardfork and it makes little sense to do so twice. I would however support increasing the dev fund when cc2.0 launches. Perhaps a much more simple way for the time being is for folders to increase their donation percentage on the cryptobullions folding pool. I can't help but think even if the devs get 10% though its still peanuts with the current price. And perhaps herein lies the true problem, the only ones profiting from this research is big pharma not exactly a shining example of philanthropy. Perhaps the only way a coin like this can be successful is to cut out the middleman (stanford) and crunch data directly for big companies who can profit, they could "pay" for this by exerting buy pressure on the market, just how much they pay would come down too their own requirements and the value of data processing to them.

The Dev is raising money for Stanford's Pande Labs. I think for now it should be used to advance and increase Curecoin not give money to Stanford's Pande Labs. "CureCoin converted an additional 280,000 CURE donations into over $2200 USD. CureCoin's Latest Donations to Folding at Home (Pande Labs)" curecoin.net

I'm all for charity but the dev should raise money to improve the coin, once the coin is successful I'm 100% sure hundreds of thousands of dollars will be raised for charity. I think we shouldn't put the cart before the horse...  

This balance of donations will change in the future :-)

We made a commitment to donate the funds from the Endometriosis Pilot Study proposal to FAH if it didn't reach critical mass. We had an initial indication from (what will remain an un-named source at Stanford) that, with the right funding, it would be possible. An Indiegogo draft was written (to which we would add the donated CureCoins regardless of market value if we could get an official nod), however then we got radio silence, while the charity and physicians we were talking to, told us they were committed to supporting UCSF research instead. You can read all about it on the forum and reddit if you have an extra hour. So we were committed to do what we promised with that donation, which was to donate them to fund Stanford servers. This was truly a one-off opportunity that we couldn't pass up, if not a bit disappointing in the end.

And perhaps herein lies the true problem, the only ones profiting from this research is big pharma not exactly a shining example of philanthropy.

On the "helping Big Pharma" question, all the results from FAH are made public, and any patents that Stanford may file as a result must to be sold to the highest bidder. So the ultimate winners are still the public who benefit from any resulting drug compounds (unless said Big Pharama entity decides to manipulate the resulting patent somehow downstream - that's an entirely separate discussion). In the meantime, Stanford can use those funds to enhance their research and create new projects for FAH to crunch.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: March 12, 2016, 11:55:19 AM
Lets go through some of these - I'll let the devs respond separately in their time

The only reason it went up recently it's because I supported the price! otherwise it would still be trading at 1700 with a mkt cap of 30k

First thanks for adding buy support, it would be great if other's would do the same as many of the coins adding liquidity are sourced from PS3EdOlkkola's donations - which ultimately go to support some great causes listed on the homepage.

3. marketing: 1/10

Rather than criticism, based on limited budgets, we'd love to hear some suggestions on marketing from team experts on the subject.

I can tell you we've made contacts with a LOT of people on social media ... from 13 year old gamers, to college kids, physicians, Hollywood agencies ... all the way up to billion dollar philanthropic organizations and  VPs of fortune 500 companies. Search twitter, facebook and curecoin and you'll get nearly 250,000 hits. We interact multiple times per day across several social media platforms. We've sent emails, certified letters, packages and called decision makers in person. There are several educational, informational and entertaining videos published on Youtube about CureCoin (published both by the team or folding team members)

The concept isn't exactly easy to get across. You get a spectrum of responses ... from enthusiasm, to indifference, to optimism for the folding research (but ignorance about the purpose of the currency), to outright anger - spouting conspiracy theories about big pharma or "profiting from charitable giving".

We've found Hollywood people don't want anything on their computer equipment for fear of being hacked, while otherwise educated people don't want to load the folding client on their computers because they're afraid it will "burn it up".

We recently tried to convince the head of a cancer foundation who hadn't heard of FAH, but who works with Fortune 500 companies, to load an NaCl work unit in their chrome browser ... after several tries and reminders, they came back saying they were "just too busy at the moment".

I talked to a couple of marketing "experts" ... one is dismissive of the idea (not exactly a visionary), while the other who works with an major technology marketing company in NYC really liked the idea, but mentioned that for mass marketing the folding and wallet clients would need to be distributed in a single package. Re-distribution is something Pande Group does not allow for their folding client.

But complexity isn't what's stopping people in the crypto-community from folding :-) I'm somewhat convinced, due to incorrect, outdated, strategically misinformed posts still floating around on the web from 2013/14, the broader crypto-currency community makes assumptions about CureCoin's efficiency and rewards model that just aren't true (don't know how many times I've corrected people about our 19% SHA mining awards, who assumed it was 100%).

One of the near-term goals of CureCoin is to fund a 501c3 registration. This will hopefully open some doors in high places that were previously closed, but that in no way implies CureCoin simply wants charity status. The current trend is towards hybrid corporations. This involves processing CURE donations on behalf of charities while managing cloud folding services, developing new products and technologies around CURE once it can stand on it's own in the future.

The dev need to get their sh** together. If people believed in this project and the dev. Lots of talented people would work on it for free and they would be no need to hire anyone.

Again, I don't want to respond on their behalf ... but I know they are busy refactoring some aspects of CC 2.0 code while working on a CC 1.x maintenance upgrade. That being said, the few times I've dealt with outside individuals interested in working for the project, the conversation fizzles when they find there is little in the way of $$$$ or BTC to present them for their hard work. For some aforementioned reasons, people just aren't that excited about accelerating research (yet).

If you know individuals with a crytpo-currency development background who are willing to "Work for CURE" on a limited basis, by all means have them contact Cyg or Vork any time.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: March 11, 2016, 02:23:06 AM
where are we on CC 2.0? Is this update ever coming out?
This project is a wasted opportunity. The only real use for POW mining and this coin is nowhere.

That is a joke.

You'd be better starting another coin same principle with a team of devs behind it not just a couple of people that probably work on it a couple of hours every 2 weeks in spare time.

Keep in mind during CureCoin's initial seed funding (late 2013/early 2014), bitcoin peaked at $1150 USD. Then, over the course of a year, bitcoin's valuation tumbled to below $180 USD.

That's an over 80% drop in the value of the initially investment funds in CureCoin. At the time, there was an outcry over the 10% dev fund required to make the coin viable (over which you were a vocal opponent I believe). Based on community complaints, the dev funds were reduced to 3% which were still disputed as "profiting from charity" by some at the time.

So that's part of the reason why things move more like molasses right now. You can't hire additional developers away from paying projects until CURE is valued at least at a minimum break-even point for folding. That would add honest market liquidity.

As a side-note, Ethereum missed several release dates on it's way to Frontier (despite being funded - now with over $18,000,000 USD). And even today, exhibits occasional mining instability and user friendliness issues.

There should be some movement regarding your concerns over the next month. I’m confident Vorksholk will be able to share an update soon.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: February 20, 2016, 08:41:48 AM
Thanks assistresearch.

I see that gridcoin has a lot of protein folding BOINC projects listed in their whitelist:
GPUGRID: Full-atom molecular simulations of proteins.
Poem@Home: Models protein folding using Anfinsen's dogma.
FIND@Home: docking simulations on malaria proteins

How does Folding@Home differ from these?

Folding@Home is a more mature project, its been running for over 15 years. It leads the field in developing new methods of simulation. It has the most reliable/useful software client, and more published research than all the projects you mentioned combined.

Basically everything used in the world of protein folding DCN's was primarily developed because of the Folding@home project.

It was a collaboration between F@H and ATi over 10 years ago that first looked at the possibilty of usings gpu's to do work that had always previously been done on a single core cpu.
It was F@H that developed the systems to use multicore cpus


Very good points Wilding2004 ... Folding@Home and Rosetta@home are often referred to as "complementary", however on a sheer level of computational research power, Folding@Home overshadows all BOINC projects combined (including the non-medical ones) in terms of PFLOPS by nearly 2.4x today (it has been over 4x within the last 18 months). So that in part determines the number of computations represented by each coin - if that helps. Some projects like GPUGRID are great, but have been known to occasionally run out of work, but that doesn't make their research any less interesting. I would say if you want to throw some power at some of those, it only helps the overall cause. I do it too - but coin-wise, I'm biased to CURE - I do buy GRID opportunistically just to stay diversified like assistresearch says.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: February 14, 2016, 07:02:40 AM
Any idea if a pi cluster could work fine at folding?  Grin

I don't believe the raspberry pi's ARM processor is supported for Folding@Home except for Android phones ...

I've read about people using MSFT compute sticks or you can pick up a cheap used laptop  (like one with a cracked screen), and use it to fold NaCl and concurrently staking your wallet.

I just learned about JaguarBoard (Intel x86 based raspberry pi alternative) This might actually work ... for VERY lightweight folding.

The only thing I would think a pi II could be used for, is to run the Android 4.4+ client for folding (no CureCoins from that client however... Sad

You probably already realize that even a 10 year old PC can be fitted with a modern video card, and put up some decent numbers.

Check out the folding calculator for PC, Mac or cloud equipment. That being said, your goals are probably cost and power efficiency ... like having a small device installed inline with each light bulb socket in the house - contributing to research and earning CURE.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: February 06, 2016, 09:44:57 PM
Still looking.. I mean folding eh ?


https://youtu.be/Tx7W662gd8M

troll. the folding coins helps humanity more than all coins

my Nvidia working on http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/fahproject.overusingIPswillbebanned?p=9212
Cystic fibrosis (CF).
can't stop it and mine shitcoins for profits


If that is so.. then why did you remove the link I had posted ?

Are you afraid of the information provided there ?

Do you mind if I call you Mr. Quack ?


yes you can call me Mr. Quack
i didn't want the whole image posted in quote
and yes the link scares me

and i wish someone will find the ultimate cure to kill cancer

You are not making any sense.

Why does proof that cures and preventative measures exist, scare you ? lol


I don't think "scared" is the right word here ... more like "concerned".

I do not doubt doctors and veterinarians have stumbled on effective herbal cures for some carcinomas in some patients. But your original question "Still looking.. I mean folding eh ?" suggests all research could stop, if only we could find these lost herbal formulas, while never needing to study the underlying mechanisms by which cancer first takes root.

You're also assuming Folding@home and other DCN research only covers cancer. What about Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ALS, HIV, Malaria, Ebola, and Pandemic Influenzas?

The cancer statistics from the Latin American countries mentioned in the video are admittedly low - but then again, so are their life expediencies (they are dying of other diseases first) furthermore living an agrarian lifestyle exposes individuals to fewer industrial chemicals and processed foods.

The theory that a one-size-fits-all treatment for all carcinomas ignores the cause and effect. There is no single form of "cancer". One doesn't really have cancer, one is "cancering". There are interactions (or lack of interactions) between oncogenes and tumor suppressor genes (see list below). Each individuals body and tumor do not react equally to every cure presented. Dr. Hoxey claimed that those who failed his treatments merely had a "bad attitude".

One of the ultimate goals of cancer research (not the only goal) presented by Folding@Home is to enable the design of personalized medicines coded to individual patient's bodies. We do not only differ from eachother genetically, but also epigenetically (those are the proteins outside of the cell's nucleus). Those variations between humans (even between twins) can be practically infinite, leading to a need for individualized solutions for optimal results.

Notice that many of the over 500 projects studied by Folding@home cover natural compounds like Bryostatin (a natural deep-sea compound showing unique activity against cancer, HIV/AIDS, and Alzheimer's). The results of all those studies are made PUBLIC! Also, some of the projects deal with subjects outside the "human condition" such as custom enzyme designs to create bio-fuels more efficiently and perhaps, in the future, a cure for the Yellow Dragon virus plaguing citrus crops - causing massive damage and raising food prices.

Hippie Tech, I appreciate the video and I agree the pharma industry has many elements of corruption  - but do you feel because of that, we should stop learning about life science and go back to randomly applying herbal remedies and basing results on anecdotal evidence as they did in the 18th century and before?

I really hope you can join us in the quest for knowledge (and get paid in CURE  Smiley )


List of some Oncogenes:

PDGF Codes for platelet-derived growth factor. Involved in glioma (a brain cancer)
EGFR Codes for the receptor for epidermal growth factor. Involved in glioblastoma (a brain cancer) and breast cancer
HER-2 or ERBB2. Codes for a growth factor receptor. Involved in breast, salivary gland and ovarian cancers
RET Codes for a growth factor receptor. Involved in thyroid cancer
KRAS Involved in lung, ovarian, colon and pancreatic cancers
NRAS Involved in leukaemias
MYC1 Involved in leukaemias and breast, stomach and lung cancers
NMYC Involved in neuroblastoma (a nerve cell cancer) and glioblastoma
LMYC Involved in lung cancer
BCL2 Codes for a protein that normally blocks cell suicide. Involved in follicular B cell lymphoma
CCND1 or PRAD1 Codes for cyclin D1, a stimulatory component of the cell cycle clock. Involved in breast, head and neck cancers
CTNB1 Codes for beta-catenin, involved in liver cancers
MDM2 Codes for an antagonist of the p53 tumor suppressor protein. Involved in sarcomas (connective tissue cancers) and other cancers

List of some Tumor Suppressor Genes:
APC Involved in colon and stomach cancers
DPC4 Codes for a relay molecule in a signalling pathway that inhibits cell division. Involved in pancreatic cancer
NF-1 Codes for a protein that inhibits a stimulatory (Ras) protein. Involved in neurofibroma and pheochromocytoma (cancers of the peripheral nervous system)
and myeloid leukemia
NF-2 Involved in meningioma and ependymoma (brain cancers) and schwannoma (affecting the wrapping around peripheral nerves)
CDKN2A or MTS1 Codes for the p16 protein, a braking component of the cell cycle clock.
Involved in a wide range of cancers
RB1 Codes for the pRB protein, a master brake of the cell cycle. Involved in retinoblastoma and bone, bladder, small cell lung and breast cancer
TP53 Codes for the p53 protein, which can halt cell division and induce abnormal cells to kill themselves. Involved in a wide range of cancers
WT1 Involved in Wilms’ tumour of the kidney
BRCA1 Involved in breast and ovarian cancers
BRCA2 Involved in breast cancer
VHL Involved in renal cell cancer

 
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: February 01, 2016, 06:38:56 AM
Looking at the results i got from running the calculator is a scary thing with the current price it may take many years to roi on my 2 gtx if ever.

Yes, a little scary but also paints a disheartening picture of the crypto currency and gamer community(ies). The critical mass which has yet to be reached deals with obsolete GPU equipment formerly used by scrypt miners re-directed at folding. Instead (IMHO) many scrypt miners simply sold their GPUs to Gamers who, unlike old PS3 owners who created a true paradigm shift for folding@home, actually have a lower than expected interest in participating in research. For that matter, a lower than expected interest in building a futuristic "Epistemic Standard Economy" around research instead of precious metals or credit default swaps.

The calculator was put out there to underscore the value of our collective participation. Many in the crypto-community either don't realize the actual costs of folding proteins (the long-time folders know this quite well), and that it follows Moore's Law too. Some of the research results from 7 years ago are just beginning to affect drug advancements today. What's really required is an exa-scale computational effort (10x the current level of participation in folding@home today). This is one of the paradigms that CureCoin want's to change as more people learn about the system.  

There is (what I believe) a mis-conception that CureCoin is a clone (like many others), which is mined independently of the actual molecular calculations (thereby burning 2x the energy). Outside the 19% SHA-256 layer set aside in 1.0 to secure the network and allow traditional miners to transition into folding proteins, this assumption is simply incorrect. Misconceptions (IMHO) are still due to posts by naysayers dating back to early days in 2014 or even pre-ANN that are still floating out on the internet.

There are, hrrrhmm, "entities" who criticize CureCoin participants for profiteering from medical research philanthropy, yet have no qualms about promoting parallel BTC mining to support other DCN projects ... a hypocritical viewpoint if there ever was one.

Finally, another community who seem to be totally missing the boat is the Sci-Fi fan community. Despite repeated efforts to garner interest in CureCoin (or Folding@home in general) on Sci-Fi fan social media sites, they are more likely to contribute $500000 USD to crowdfund Star Trek Axanar than to load an NaCl job in a Chrome browser. A celebrity endorsement would probably go a long way here, but they are too concerned about being hacked through the FAH software. It may seem funny, but that's not speculation, that's first hand information from people I know in Hollywood.

One simple thing I can suggest is more mentions of #curecoin on social media. Post your points output, tell people about Folding@Home and the over 120 published scientific papers. There are only a handful of CureCoin team members who post periodically about their CureCoin and Folding@Home experiences. Statistics show that media attention to DCN research projects dramatically increases participation. Without the "pop" of huge breakthroughs from the research, media attention has been waning in our instant gratification culture. I've had friends ask "So who am I going to be 'curing' if I do this?'" The truth is, not only does the research cover molecular biology across over 500 active projects, but additionally helps advance big data, machine learning and deep learning research.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: December 29, 2015, 08:32:56 PM
So hows this little sham going? Have we actually folded proteins or just pretending to? Or are we still spending everything on cases of wind and brain control research?

Ummm ... moved to #4 spot within less than two years (out of a 15 year history Folding@Home) ...

You can verify the stats independently (don't take it from them):

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

At one point the team output >19 PetaFLOPS in protein folding computations - rivaling a $97,000,000 IBM Titan Supercomputer...

Beat Google, HP and MacOSx folding teams - COMBINED in total PPD produced ...

... so yea, they've folded some proteins.

18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: December 29, 2015, 04:18:13 AM
Quick Reminder:

Livecoin Exchange has been added to CureCoin's official Exchange Index:

     Livecoin now available for CURE/BTC trading

Livecoin: Trade BTC & Altcoins for Fiat
(CureCoin trading for BTC only, however on Livecoin BTC can be traded directly for Fiat)

For those who haven't tried it, Livecoin has a really smooth user experience ... here's a preview video:

Happy Trading!
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: November 08, 2015, 05:47:54 PM

That's good news, is there a list of Curecoin shops?

thanks
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I'll try to answer this one. Since CureCoin was listed over the weekend; retail vendors, service providers and charities on Coinpayments will be notified of the addition of CureCoin on Monday November 9th. Then it's up to them individually to decide if they will accept CureCoin payments.

Since CureCoin has been running stable for over 18 months, and it's underlying cause of medical research is so vital and unique - adoption by vendors should be "expeditious". But there's no guarantee all 18000 vendors will accept CURE at once.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin -Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. June 11 2015 Client update on: November 07, 2015, 08:09:11 AM
why price so low... what is the problem with this coin ??

Nothing.
I think the real question is what is wrong with the crypto community, here we have a viable alt that replaces the waste of computing resources for pointless pow clones yet we have very little market interest. Probably the bottom line is alot of the big players in crypto are just in it to line their fiat wallets and not for the ideals of crypto itself.

hopefully there will be better future for Curecoin
will the new version be POS only ?

No but the new version will remove the sha256 mining component for certificates which can be issued by university etc.

Smiley faces on the website or not---selling folder-donated CURE on markets and donating the USD to stanford is not helping folders.  It should go to more dev or it should be burned.  Not dumped and donated to stanford.

Reading _future_ talk in the thread, it sounds all backwards.  Entities who need collective computing power will be able to create more CURE?  Shouldn't they be buying CURE and using it to pay for computing power?  We need to rethink this, or we're going to just end up with feel-good Points Per Day and CURE Per Day.

The eventual goal of Curecoin isn't to create an environment where people generate a living from folding, but rather are able to offset their costs while improving the state of computational science. It's a different paradigm entirely: most altcoin mining aims to turn profits, Curecoin mining aims to offset costs. Neither is necessarily bad or good, simply different. It could certainly be argued that converting CURE to USD to donate to Stanford and other DCNs does less good than bad (as in, the price decrease in CureCoin turns more folders off from folding than the money helps to advance science by improving DCN internal architectures). As a team, we believe that the money donated to Stanford and other DCNs from donated Curecoin does far more to advance the state of computational science than a mild, temporary drop in price does to deter folders. It's a judgement call, and one that can't be simplified to a set of equations to solve for a net benefit or loss, unfortunately.

That being said, we are doing everything we can while converting the Curecoin to USD to donate to Stanford to not influence the market price--selling small quantities, selling at reasonable prices, etc.

As for future plans for 2.0, the same logic applies in a different manner: prioritizing net gains to computational science in that coin rewards are distributed from the institutes directly. Theoretically, this doesn't change the actual markets/equilibrium for Curecoin terribly much, it simply removes our position as "keepers" of the folding funds, further securing the network against any kind of compromise of our servers, and to alleviate people's concerns about us suddenly dumping a bunch of the folding-reserved Curecoin on the markets for self-benefit or whatever.

It does change the balance of power in the network, removing power from us the devs, and placing the ability to award coins in the hands of universities. There's still the potential for network abuse (as has been brought up and discussed before), but any system which awards coins based on some non-autonomously-verifiable PoW (like hashing, or finding primes). Ensuring work units were completed correctly isn't something the Curecoin network could feasibly do. In Bitcoin, peers who are verifying the block was solved correctly simply recompute the one winning hash with the provided golden nonce and additional state information to ensure the result falls under the target. If Curecoin were to behave in this way, the network would need every verifying peer to recompute the entire work unit. This means that, if one block on the network was released per minute (one of the considered speeds for 2.0), peers would have to verify 60 blocks per hour, or 60 WUs per hour. The (often MB-range, especially for something like GPUGrid) WUs would have to be stored on the network, broadcast to all (or many) peers, and the computation would have to finish in under a minute. Nodes could be specifically set to verify different WUs, but then the network has to trust anonymous peers. If we have some kind of Curecoin-controlled nodes which do the verification and are built to be beefy and capable of, between all of them, verifying WUs, then we're back to where we started, with trusting a third party (us). In the end, no individual could reasonably re-verify the whole blockchain (like they can with Bitcoin and derivatives) themselves, nor could they store the entire blockchain, even if they were able to download it.

And that doesn't even account for the non-deterministic nature of some WUs. Some WUs will yield marginally different results depending on the precision of the hardware they're running on, PRNGs seeded with system time, hell knows what else. This issue could, foreseeably, be fixed, but it still wouldn't fix the above computational mess.

If WUs were to be made shorter, it would reduce the size of the blockchain and time time it took to compute the WU, but there is a lower limit of reasonable WU size and execution time, considering the nature of the problems being approached. If WUs were made to take 10 seconds, it would be impossible to run any meaningful simulation--sometimes one single frame of simulation can take a considerably substantial period of time. And as models grow more advanced and account for more variables, this becomes even more difficult.

In the event that, instead of recomputing the WU to verify it, there was an algorithm (much like Stanford uses for determining WU validity) that could be run on peers, it would have to be included in the source code. This would reveal exactly how WUs are validated, and would open the algorithm up to people attempting to game it by submitting bogus WUs that still validate with the validation algorithm.

So the solution is to allow the DCNs to determine which WUs are valid, and then award Curecoins. However, to avoid just giving them a stack of Curecoins and hoping they treat them correctly, we instead give them the ability to sign certificates. This allows the network to see all of the coins "payed out" by a DCN, when they were created, etc. It also allows the network to impose rules on block generation, and allows us to make a near-bulletproof algorithm to prevent forking (requiring blocks to stack DCNs, so one DCN couldn't produce more than n (determined by an algorithm that adjusts to represent network state) blocks in a row, requiring a potential attacker to compromise multiple DCNs simultaneously to even *try* to fork the network). Finally, it gives a digital trail of assignment activity, which could be used if a DCN were to be investigated for unfairly assigning coins. Finally, network rules can dictate the balance of DCN mintage, and can be refined over time in response to community input (either to devs, or by a network voting system).

In 2.0, we the Devs would also have the ability to sign blocks, but these blocks would not contain any coinbase transaction--no way for us (or someone who forges our blocks, somehow) to make money--no coins would be mined with the blocks we make. They would just be there to help regulate the choppy seas of the network's block time erratic nature due to hashing functions determining winning 'tickets,' and add a further point of protection against network forks (like, a dev block could be required between every actual DCN block, so if someone were to fork the network more than one block, they would need to compromise our signature servers in addition to multiple DCNs simultaneously. That's tough.

Anyhow, a slight deviation from your initial question/remark, but I hope this helped clear up the decision to allow DCNs to sign blocks/initiate coin mintage.

As to your question as to why they don't buy Curecoins and use those to buy computational power--that system already exists. Any university could gather money and pay for supercomputing time, and run their workloads. The problem is they don't have a budget for doing this--and requiring them to pay for the Curecoin network's computation power would just add another avenue through which to purchase computational power. A network which allowed renting time on supercomputer-like resources is an awesome idea that's been attempted/discussed several times in other projects, but it's against the grain of what Curecoin's already trying to do.


merc84 and Vorksholk, thank you both for your responses.  Very helpful. 

I've been folding altruistically for some time.  CURE being a way to recoup some of my electric/equipment costs has allowed me to increase my output tremendously.  For that, i sincerely thank the entire CURE community.  My criticism is only for the sake of improvement.  I believe in the cause, I believe in the currency, and I appreciate all of the hard work that has created CURE.

I still believe selling CURE for USD and donating it to stanford harms the folders/markets more than it benefits stanford.  Folders are already donating their comp/elec.  There's a finite amount of BTC being injected into the CURE market.  The more of it which goes to stanford, the less of it there is to offset folders' costs.  If anything, stanford should be receiving donations in the form of CURE, which they can redistribute to the folding pool.  Ideally, though, donations to the Curecoin project would be in the form of BTC. 

Hands down, the best way to donate to the Curecoin project and support its folders/research is to buy CURE with BTC on the exchange(s). 

I'm getting ahead of myself, though...  Consider this in support of the above:

The product already exists, the currency already exists, they're just not reciprocal at the moment. 

Allow me to present a scenario.  For simplicity, let's call universities/pharma corporations/etc. "entities" and those who are providing computational power "folders"---even though it might not be "folding;" rather something else which requires CPU/GPU distributed computing power.  Anyway, "entities" and "folders."   

Let's say there are 3 entities interested in distributing CURE in exchange for computing power.  entity 1, stanford (cancer, etc.); entity 2, pharmacorp xyz (antibiotic-resistant bacterial evolution); entity 3, university of nebraska (agricultural diseases, weather patterns).  Let's say that each entity is authorized to sign certificates to distribute <base> CURE/day to their folders.  At <base> CURE/entitiy/day; what drives folders to choose entities?  Most likely the reason we all began folding in the first place---to donate time/money to help a field of research.  For reciprocity, I contend the following:

1.  Folder donations should be sent to entities in the form of CURE. 
2.  Entities should be allowed/encouraged to use BTC to purchase CURE from exchanges.

The above would allow entities to obtain CURE to use as they see fit.  Sell it, burn it, or (most likely) (re)distribute it to their folding pool. 

An entity's <distribution> = (<base> + <donations> + <purchases>) 

<donations> would allow folders/others to encourage additional allocation of folding resources to the research entitie(s) of their choice. 

<purchases> from exchanges would allow entities to add to their pool, enticing a higher allocation of resources to their pool.

Additionally, the above (especially <purchases>) would tie together the currency with the product.  The price would become tied less to speculation; more to cost of production and value of product.

Of course, one might argue that pharmacorp xyz would buy its own rigs for privacy, but let's say they found it to be cost-effective to use folders for the sake of this scenario/discussion---that way, I can present the following question:  Will this scenario allow entity 2 (phramacorp xyz) to out purchase the other entities and hog the folding resources?  No.  For a few reasons:  <base> will still be distributed by all entities.  It's safe to assume that increases to entity 2's <purchases> would increase their share of folding allocation, but entity 1 and entity 3 would still attract folders from <base> and keep their altruistic/loyal folders.  By loyal, i mean the folders have ties to the entity (e.g., graduated from the university of nebraska).  Buying a reasonable amount of CURE would help pharmacorp xyz keep its production above that of the others, but even if they bought an obscene amount of CURE, the others would still have folders because of <base>, altruism, loyalty, and <donations> (most likely primarily from people getting CURE from pharmacorp xyz's pool).  They would find a balance which works best for them, but ultimately, the more BTC being spent on CURE, the more folders the CURE market can support.  Also, the minting process stemming from <base> will help keep this in balance.

To paraphrase Vorsholk:  Curecoin isn't so much about turning profits as it is about offsetting costs.

I agree.  Very simply, an increase in the flow of BTC to CURE will increase CURE's overall cost-offsetting potential.  Let's call these folders "sustainable folders."

If the only BTC being injected into CURE is from donors and speculators/investors, then the number of sustainable folders recouping their costs will be less than if BTC is being injected by a reciprocation of CURE between entities and folders, coupled with BTC being injected into CURE from entities, donors, and speculators/investors.

The majority of folders are already folding altruistically (to stanford) and loyally (to their Team).  If the goal is to increase the overall folding power available for entities by increasing the capacity for sustainable folders, then I believe some of these ideas will aid in tapping into an additional demographic, without reducing the number altruistic folders (by definition).  Perhaps most importantly, it will allow existing folders to increase their output without sacrificing sustainability.

Team Curecoin has climbed the team ladder quickly on only a trickle of BTC.  Ballpark'ing recent Curecoin Team production (24hr Avg ~46m PPD):  If 1 PPD results in ~.0001700 CURE/day; then for a folder to offset elec costs (GPU, Air Conditioner), depreciation of equipment, etc., he/she might need CURE prices ~.00007500 BTC for an efficient rig.  For an inefficient rig, maybe ~.00015000 BTC.

Can an intermittent trickle of BTC support ~46m PPD?  If not, how much?  more?  less?  Looking at recent CURE prices, i'd say less.

Now, imagine a steady stream of BTC...

Perhaps there would be a way to insert a work unit (wu) into the stream of work units issued by the institutions once in a great while, perhaps 1 in every 1,000 work units, which has a measured, or known, difficulty.  If the university processes this wu and consistently and assigns too many points to them, then the devs, and the part of the public that can interpret the data, will know that something appears to amiss, and the institution will warrant investigation, with possible suspension from the Curecoin program, or perhaps just an adjustment to the number of points rewarded.

This same type of wu may be used eventually in case of selling processing time to pharma for Curecoin purchased or burned, as they could audit the data and all parties could be assured of receiving their value.  As usual, if this seems like a viable idea, I request that it be added to the list of things to do after the release of CC 2.0.



There will be a more official announcement on the ANN, but checkout the latest forum post:
Coinpayments to accept CureCoin with up to 18065 participating vendors
this is really good progress from both liquidity and marketability perspectives of CureCoin 1.2


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