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I see some account has got unbanned and those posr quality isnt more better with all who still stay on the list banned, this project only for manipulation.
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I just curious with these case will occured again... that's why i have think moderator need to controlling sig managers. I just notice that I'm on the list of yahoo from which I do not know. I know that I'm on the list of Lauda due to applying on different signature with the same info. But I don't really know how I got in the list of yahoo since I'm not even in his/her campaign. I would like to ask, how I got in yahoo's list?
I'm somehow working on fixing my current post yet I have spammy post on Games & Round thread on the pass weeks.
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I just notice that I'm on the list of yahoo from which I do not know. I know that I'm on the list of Lauda due to applying on different signature with the same info. But I don't really know how I got in the list of yahoo since I'm not even in his/her campaign. I would like to ask, how I got in yahoo's list?
I'm somehow working on fixing my current post yet I have spammy post on Games & Round thread on the pass weeks.
If you make 1 managers list you ake all 3 of our lists. Pretty simple to figure out He shouldn't stay in your list, it show something  |
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1. buy and sell account
Yes, I've spent 4 years on this forum building up myself so that I can save an additional $10-20 per account sale. Don't you see how absurd this theory is? 2. put high rates as campaign manager
That is much better than random half-baked users, which don't give a damn about those campaigns, undermining the rates just to get the job. 3. selected who can join the signature campaign or easy for you give priority to your friends to join in sig campaigns.
This can already happen with every campaign. Not specially relevant to SMAS. And also by the times goes with this way open to other bitcoin forum compete with bitcointalk because by manipulation scheme the member of forum will leave the forum.
Slippery slope fallacy. How can you can make campaign B compete with campaign A "easy for you all to put not active member in campaign A"
Can we stop with the useless conspiracy theories? I can't talk for the other managers, but I have a very strong opinion against market manipulation and attempts at bribing me. Not only would they lose the bribe (money), they'd be exposed and possibly sued (depending on information available). It's stuff like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg15967038#msg15967038 and this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15645159#msg15645159 which adds credence to the conspiracy theories, and that's the short list. What are we supposed to think? If you really want your voices heard, I suggest working together to start the Sig Camp Members Union to protect the rights of anyone who wishes to spam, shitpost or promote unethical businesses as if they were honest. lexuz would be a great spokesperson during the first 3 weeks of every month while cjmoles rested up for the fourth, Who knows maybe a spammer is just a scenario, which is run by a group due with that they can get something. Who knows, maybe they just want to keep the forum from going to total shit? Total shit then came scenarios "hero of cleanliness"? |
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1. buy and sell account
Yes, I've spent 4 years on this forum building up myself so that I can save an additional $10-20 per account sale. Don't you see how absurd this theory is? 2. put high rates as campaign manager
That is much better than random half-baked users, which don't give a damn about those campaigns, undermining the rates just to get the job. 3. selected who can join the signature campaign or easy for you give priority to your friends to join in sig campaigns.
This can already happen with every campaign. Not specially relevant to SMAS. And also by the times goes with this way open to other bitcoin forum compete with bitcointalk because by manipulation scheme the member of forum will leave the forum.
Slippery slope fallacy. How can you can make campaign B compete with campaign A "easy for you all to put not active member in campaign A"
Can we stop with the useless conspiracy theories? I can't talk for the other managers, but I have a very strong opinion against market manipulation and attempts at bribing me. Not only would they lose the bribe (money), they'd be exposed and possibly sued (depending on information available). It's stuff like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg15967038#msg15967038 and this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15645159#msg15645159 which adds credence to the conspiracy theories, and that's the short list. What are we supposed to think? If you really want your voices heard, I suggest working together to start the Sig Camp Members Union to protect the rights of anyone who wishes to spam, shitpost or promote unethical businesses as if they were honest. lexuz would be a great spokesperson during the first 3 weeks of every month while cjmoles rested up for the fourth, Who knows maybe a spammer is just a scenario, which is run by a group due with that they can get something. |
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Can we stop with the useless conspiracy theories? I can't talk for the other managers, but I have a very strong opinion against market manipulation and attempts at bribing me. Not only would they lose the bribe (money), they'd be exposed and possibly sued (depending on information available).
Depending on information? the campaign owner can't blame signature managers and signature manager easy to say i don't know why they are not active due i was doing the right thing to manage the campaign. You're English literacy is horrible in this post. I can't even understand what you're trying to say here(?). Can you please stop flooding this thread? (you can always PM some of us) If you think that posting here will get you an advantage for getting de-listed, then you are wrong. same IMO i never think get an advantage by doing this |
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How can you can make campaign B compete with campaign A "easy for you all to put not active member in campaign A"
Can we stop with the useless conspiracy theories? I can't talk for the other managers, but I have a very strong opinion against market manipulation and attempts at bribing me. Not only would they lose the bribe (money), they'd be exposed and possibly sued (depending on information available). Depending on information? the campaign owner can't blame signature managers and signature manager easy to say i don't know why they are not active due i was doing the right thing to manage the campaign. |
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I think to be fair that there should be involvement of a moderator to control sig camp manager. please vote for it
Can you explain why? I don't see any reason why a moderator can't be a signature campaign manager at the same time as long as he is effective in both, and don't forget that keeping the forum clean from spammers is one of mod's duties (correct me if I am wrong). I never tell for moderator be signature managers, the reason of it if this still goes with the rules by signature manager will destroy bitcointalk. easy for the owner website looking high forum traffic to put ads at there, they have money so what they are looking is the traffic of the forum. |
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For transparent we need moderator take a part or you can send to them the ban list.
This is independent from forum moderation and should stay this way. We're an effort started from signature campaign managers. Due this is indenpendent forum so anyone can join signature campaign as long they not break the forum rules. since the forum stands they has put the rules for all members bitcointalk.org In the terms of business this is not good because you can specify the number of campaign participation or indirectly can say you can reduce the capacity of the ability of the owner of the campaign. As an example : campaign A the owner can pay 600 members of the signature campaign and campaign B the owner only can pay 50 members of the signature campaign. it's easy for you made something deal in back to make campaign B can compete with campaign A " in the case both of campaign have same business" How can you can make campaign B compete with campaign A "easy for you all to put not active member in campaign A" we never know what price you get from manage a signature campaign if this still goes all of you get many an advantage from it.
We spend additional, unpaid time on this. Running a lazy ass, half-managed campaign would be more easy and faster. This doesn't get you an advantage (if all, you get a big group of haters, don't believe it? Read the thread and related threads). [/quote] Indeed, for currently not got paid for SMAS due this project is still in the stage of looking to get trust but in the future after all under the control of the three of you there is a lot of money easy all of you can get 1. buy and sell account 2. put high rates as campaign manager 3. selected who can join the signature campaign or easy for you give priority to your friends to join in sig campaigns. And also by the times goes with this way open to other bitcoin forum compete with bitcointalk because by manipulation scheme the member of forum will leave the forum. what I did is for saved the forum, i'm not saying spammers right and i'm not saying what signature managers do are wrong. we must work together, the facts the forum need traffic due that's the way to make the forum get money. in this case no one was harmed[/quote] |
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I think to be fair that there should be involvement of a moderator to control sig camp manager. please vote for it
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What if you, through an alt were to buy a new account? you could add the name to your list, buy the account for cheap and then remove the account from your list. Power always bring corruption @Lauda
Simple *fix*: Keep a transparent list of the users that were either de-listed/un-banned. I'm not sure if Yahoo does that yet. However, the only people that have been delisted so far are those that asked for reviews or have been mistakenly banned (i.e. only in my case as I had no unban option given from Bitmixer until a while ago). For transparent we need moderator take a part or you can send to them the ban list. as i said before may be this is the way all three of you to make a good reputation as a campaign manager. we never know what price you get from manage a signature campaign if this still goes all of you get many an advantage from it. |
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Are the accounts put on the blacklists verified by anyone independent? or can you guys just add anyone who you personally think is a spammer?
Huh, why would anyone independently need to verify whom I put on my own blacklist? As a manager, you work on behalf the advertiser and have the right to deny service to anyone. If you want to use this list you either: 1) Trust our judgement and go with it. 2) Review members that you come across (from the blacklist) yourself. Sorry i have never doubted the quality of all three of you but at least makes it all look fair because may be this is the way all three of you to make a good reputation as a campaign manager. we never know what price you get from manage a signature campaign if this still goes all of you get many an advantage from it. |
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In theory it doesn't matter, you could say that each manager can choose whichever list(s) he prefers (if any), but imo, putting focus on one, main list (by clearly denoting it as 'main' and possibly moving other, supportive lists to 2nd post) will have much stronger effect, especially if you intend to take more managers on-board.
Yes that's the fact dude in theory the people will consider the points like or dislike to something in making decisions and it was inevitable. I guess we need voted from other moderator for ban the account from signature campaign at least it will be fair so no one will think if after this ball rolling there will be no manipulation. |
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Kane to Milan? Please no, not this January. I would hate to see him go.
I dont think that he will move away from tottenham to ac milan. Ot os just crazy to even think about it because he has the prime spot in tottenham and ac milan is not really the club that would make him get trophies if that is what he is aiming for. Either he stay in tottenham or move to a better club, thats it Correct, kane will never interested to move to ac milan due tottenham have nice project to be good team in the future and the only chance can make kane move if barcelona or real madrid give him an offer to move to their club. |
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That list might not make him feel happy. This list (of the unluckiest legendary members) might make him feel better.  +-----------------------------------------+--------+
| realName | alimit |
+-----------------------------------------+--------+
| teukon | 1029 |
| klondike_bar | 1029 |
| foggyb | 1028 |
| jl2012 | 1028 |
| jbreher | 1027 |
| DarkHyudrA | 1027 |
| zvs | 1024 |
| bitpop | 1024 |
| JoelKatz | 1024 |
| LightRider | 1022 |
| mc_lovin | 1022 |
| Portnoy | 1022 |
| PsychoticBoy | 1021 |
| Raoul Duke | 1020 |
We can't really say how unlucky these fellas were. I mean to say that it is not clear how long they had been Heroes waiting to become Legendary. Some of these guys might have been quite close to 1,000 when the Legendary rank was first introduced while you become Legendary "somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity". For example, I've walked almost the whole range from the lowest bound to nearly the highest, namely, to 1022. In this way, I should be rightfully considered as less lucky than someone who got promoted at 1029... But who might have actually been in "pending" mode only for a few activity periods Pending mode?? it's meant legendary has been set up so account can get it fast or less than 1030 activity. |
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I don't care. Create a category to have me blacklisted.
Would be pointless, as you're in one of the campaigns that clearly won't participate in any coordinated anti-spam effort. Where does it end and what mechanisms might there be put in place to prevent a potential abuse of the reputation system by means of collusion?
Again, how are we using trust feedbacks in the matter of SMAS? I just don't see where DT positions could play a role here, when we don't even leave feedbacks related to SMAS. I think this thread is enough for all campaign manager give an information and specify who will stay on ban list. doesn't need to give feedback only for against SMAS because as we know trust feedback it for build reputation. |
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bitcointalk Username : lexuz
Post count : 3030
Rank : Hr Member
Bitcoin address : 1MKDbufQg4oy8FFLCuMNCrqwESz2rGGXy6
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In a few months bitcoin price never can't break $650 maybe it's the time we must lose a hope to seeing bitcoin price touch $700 in this year.
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Managing money is not that hard to do if you know how to not spend to much then you will know on how to save money if you are earning it and you will do hard work from it you will realize that money is very important to us if we are going to just to spend and spend we will need money in future for sure that keep that.
Easy when speaking but in reality always is not easy as words, managing money is the hardest thing that is faced by many people as possible you are right not to spend a lot of money but then again a lot of unexpected things happen in life. |
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Nobody knows who transfer bitcoin to whom as it is anonymous so government can't force anyone to pay tax for bitcoin related transactions. So simply saying no bitcoin transactions aren't subjected to tax or can be taxed.
For now bitcoin still not government involve and i think its impossible that bitcoin will be involve in government unless if we force as to use bitcoin to accept it locally goverment will seen it if it will popular in our country. you know governments are corrupt.. If bitcoin steadily grown be a famous of course the government will think about how they can get tax from bitcoin because bitcoin transaction at this time was amazing. |
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