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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DNN - Decentralized News Network 🌟 News By the People, For the People 🌟 on: June 26, 2017, 06:55:54 PM

We are hard at work to release the DNN demo by the end of the month so hopefully you wont have to wait much longer.

ICO info is still work in progress, we'll see what the feedback with the demo is first.

I dig this news, will keep checking in to see when the demo is live.

Also well done with all the blogposts, keep them coming!

Are there going to be any bounties?
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DNN - Decentralized News Network 🌟 News By the People, For the People 🌟 on: June 02, 2017, 09:59:46 PM
This looks like a very interesting project, read the article above.

Looking forward to find out more about the ICO whenever that happens. I think it will do pretty well Smiley
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Hacker Gold (HKG) 🔹🔹🔹 SALE IS NOW LIVE 🔹🔹🔹 by <hack.ether.camp> on: October 22, 2016, 03:29:03 PM
Looks like icocountdown is going around trying to discredit ethercamp and are using this occasion to promote their visually appealing Cheesy website even further.
If you noticed you got two team members on here trying to defend their cause, yes they come in couple defending each other.


I delisted ether.camp hacker gold for the following reasons:

* No business model.

* No understanding of finance or strategy relating to the development of ether.camp and startups involved.

* Fundamentally flawed voting that decimates young startups.

* Lack of independant security audits.

* No cap on the actual fundrasing endeavour.

* No clear incentives for people participating in the crowdfund.


No business model
They haven't raised capital yet how are they supposed to come forward with a decent business model? If you look at the sale page they have shared different potential outcomes depending on how much they raise. Check it out. After the token sale they will probably have a better idea and what the priorities are.



No understanding of finance or strategy relating to the development of ether.camp and startups involved
So first ethercamp doesn't invest directly in the startups and they have mentioned this several times during the video AMA. This is a stage for startups to meet judges and mentors with experience and contacts. Also what do you even mean by "development of ethercamp"? As per the startups and why the hackathon is a great place for them is the respectable judges they have announced, one that really standout is Adam Draper from Boost VC. The others are also from VC companies and from very respectable firms like Deloitte, Santander, Bloomberg, Skype, RWE and several very well known companies such a ShapeShift, ConsenSys, RSK, etc. So do you still have any doubts on what are the incentives for projects to be overseen and advised by such great mentors? Do you think that there might be the possibility some of the judges may want to invest or support the best ideas?

Fundamentally flawed voting that decimates young startups
The team has spoken about this during the AMA and said they are working on the hackathon specific contracts and voting (they haven't been released yet). There is a month before the start of the competition and there is plenty of time to finish things up and present to the community for review. I'm giving them some time and the benefit of the doubt and seen their previous experience in building and running ethereum based tools they will come up with something that works.

Lack of independant security audits
There have been 2 security audits for the code that is actually being used for the sale. They are featured on the sale page but I share them here anyway.

1 https://medium.com/zeppelin-blog/ethercamps-hacker-gold-hkg-public-code-audit-b7dd3a2fe43b
2 https://tokenmarket.net/hackergold-hkg-review

So that is an outright lie. Why would they lie?

No cap on the actual fundrasing endeavour
There is a cap and is set to 4 million eth. Again another lie, seems to be a trend.

No clear incentives for people participating in the crowdfund
The team has been clear, or at least I have understood it from what I've seen on the AMA, that funds go entirely to ethercamp. As a contributor to the sale I see the platform becoming a prominent "Virtual Accelerator" stage where people with ideas can meet experts who can advise, support and even invest. Furthermore the public can also show their support which in turn can give startups a feel on how they are perceived. All this without having to travel. It is an amazing new way to go about getting your ideas going. HKG can only be bought once during this crowdfund. Imagine if the hackathon is successful, would the next one attract more ideas, fans and judges? Would there be demand for HKG that can only be purchased on the market? I have a strong feeling it will. But hey make your own judgement, don't take my word for it.

To be honest missing the points I just made above is a failure from icocountdown, shows they have no vision or understanding on what this is about.
And why would they lie? This is what bugs me the most.

I have also heard that people has had issues with them in the past. Basically their service is not free they charge quite a bit to add an ICO to their page. And ethercamp was on their website for a while. So ethercamp paid them for the service which makes them customers. Then all of a sudden they go nuts about them with the post I quoted above shared on several forums. I mean is that how you treat your customers? I never seen a company that acts that way and I am totally sorry for ethercamp who have done nothing wrong to deserve this treatment.

Did some research and it's not the first time they do this. See the links below with users who had the same experience.

1. https://steemit.com/scam/@moh-rokib/the-truth-about-icocountdown-com-by-michael-douranos

2. https://www.reddit.com/r/icocrypto/comments/4zy9ec/hello_from_alex_icocountdowncom_d/

I understand crypto is the far west right now and everyone is trying to make money however I don't think going after your own customer by lying about them does any good nor makes ICOCountdown look like heroes trying to help the community. There is a financial motive behind this. If they were doing it for free maybe it wouldn't look so bad but they actually make money with their website, in my opinion this is very unprofessional from their part. I would recommend anyone with an upcoming ICO to steer clear from them, they are vindicative characters who only care about capitalizing on the ICO fever. Beware.

By the way tokenmarket is a much better website than ICOCountdown with serious and professional people behind it. There are also a series of very useful tips regarding ICOs. https://tokenmarket.net/ico-calendar

and

ico-list another site with a lot more useful and detailed info as well as many more ICOs featured.

https://www.ico-list.com/

Compare the two with ICOCountdown and make your own judgement. Good to see some competition coming up in the ico listings space. Smiley

With that said always remember to do your own research before investing your hard earned money.
I do like ethercamp and have put some eth in it, I am confident there is a solid team behind it and they listen to the community.
We should wait and see how it goes.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it legal to earn and hold bitcoin ? on: July 04, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
It is not irregal if you can declare for student project. Do you think?
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: July 04, 2016, 07:01:16 AM
Is there community slack app for Monero?
Or what much more popular communital chat, Telegram?

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: July 04, 2016, 06:55:02 AM
What's the highest volume exchange for BURST?
Sorry if redundant question.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Halving is a profitable??? on: July 04, 2016, 06:12:47 AM
I'm also very positive about the halving. I should have bought more bitcoins long time ago, when they were cheaper.
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