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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ZiftrCOIN Release on: March 08, 2015, 08:33:11 AM
Wow lots of people with 17 m/h mining a cpu only coin "until gpu miner is released", seems fair..... Are people mining with 20 i7's or a botnet?

Dat Shit Cray

From what I understand some of the "programmers" have already ported the coin to gpu's and are mining it that way.  They have not released it to everyone else yet though but they ARE out there.

Kinda reminds me of some other coins where they don't release how it's optimized or a miner is released for Nvidia and not AMD even though it would be simple to do.
If it's "simple" and these "programmers" don't do it, then by all means feel free to do it yourself and release the code publicly.

Mining is competing for the block rewards, it's not communism, you aren't entitled to a "fair" portion of the block rewards.

The designer has already said that a miner is made that works on the GPU's and once they knew that a someone had figured it out and was mining that way it would be released to the public so it shouldn't matter either way. 

As far as your "fair" comment, since no one is entitled then what is the point of worrying about limiting to less than 51% of the hashrate on a pool or any one person having it.  That is simple it will undermine the coin can allow that person to reverse their own transaction and it isn't fair to others.  Since pools are already up and running single mining is no longer "fair" either since a pool running at over 100 Mh's will bulldoze anyone trying to single mine and make a couple coins.  I am commenting as the people who have the experience writing the programs and scripts are running around posting basically throwing it in people's faces that they have the ability and we do not.  The developers should just release the GPU miner since it has been discussed by quite a few that it is available.  And honestly fairness would be every person from a 486 to a i7 getting the same amount of coins just because they process but since this is the real world I don't expect that.  I also thought that since this is supposed to be a community with the idea that they are here to help eachother out, for that matter the coins and software are being built off of open source code that people would be decent enough to make a release when they find something but I guess that is a little too much to ask for.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ZiftrCOIN Release on: March 08, 2015, 02:02:03 AM
Wow lots of people with 17 m/h mining a cpu only coin "until gpu miner is released", seems fair..... Are people mining with 20 i7's or a botnet?

Dat Shit Cray

From what I understand some of the "programmers" have already ported the coin to gpu's and are mining it that way.  They have not released it to everyone else yet though but they ARE out there.

Kinda reminds me of some other coins where they don't release how it's optimized or a miner is released for Nvidia and not AMD even though it would be simple to do.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 24, 2015, 02:45:57 AM
anyone here have a 6850? because I have no idea how to get the config right and was wondering if you could share your config  Smiley this is what I have so far but I dont know how to do the rest
Code:
sgminer -k pluck -o stratum+tcp://stratum.coin-miners.info:3637 -u ipwn7474.homegreg -p homegreg

From what I am seeing the 6XXX series doesn't like the scrypt coin miners.  Couldn't mine bitcoin with my 6850's and the sup miner only runs at 300H/s which is way too low for the cost of power.

When I did get it to run I had to set intensity at 8 and the worksize at 256 along with the thread concurrency at 256, I use a two part file where the settings are in sgminer.conf which just works easier for me to configure and modify so you will have to look up the flags.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 22, 2015, 11:28:33 PM
Good to see the hash has started to spread a bit beyond one pool.  I switched from coin-miners to hardcoreminers to try and spread it some more, I would suggest some others do the same or the OP remove it and put a notice not to just pick the first pool or the highest hashrate pool on the main page next to the pool listings.

With the updated AMD gpu miner I am able to get about 1.1Kh/s on a r7 270 clocked at 950Mhz core.  Can not bring the intensity up beyond 8 or they crash and with a worksize of 8 I was only getting about 800H/s.  Temp tops at about 34 but the indoor temp is 20 inside right now.  Pretty close to what an fx8350 can pull.  Should give a decent basis for someone else running something near the same or who wants to run a two part or multi pool failover.

run.bat
del *.bin
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
sgminer.exe --config sgminer.conf

config

{
"pools" : [
        {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.eu.sup.hardcoreminers.com:3022",
      "user" : "nightshade00013.N",
      "pass" : "L"
   },
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.coin-miners.info:3637",
      "user" : "nightshade00013.N",
      "pass" : "L"
   },
        {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://sup.suprnova.cc:7777",
      "user" : "nightshade00013.N",
      "pass" : "L"
   }
]
,
"intensity" : "8",
"worksize" : "16",
"kernel" : "pluck",
"thread-concurrency" : "256",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"vectors" : "1",
"temp-cutoff" : "60",
"temp-overheat" : "55",
"temp-target" : "45",
"expiry" : "120",
"failover-only" : true,
"hotplug" : "5",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "5",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"
}

Mining on a pair of 6850's is basically crash city or 200H/s. . . seems they only like x11 coins at this point but they are factory overclocked and I think it has something do do with the memory speed and voltages.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 21, 2015, 10:55:56 PM

Thanks, went from 1.1 to 1.57 on fx 8350 @4.3Ghz
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 21, 2015, 06:25:34 PM

 i cant join in http://sup.hardcoreminers.com/  .  it s not opening.

I am guessing since their pool can not compete with rnova running over 2000kh/s they shut down the pool.  I would suggest https://sup.coin-miners.info/index.php as they have enough hash to at least eat one or two blocks but if this doesn't even out at least a bit by tomorrow I am done mining the coin.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 21, 2015, 09:30:35 AM
Spread the hash guys

I wish. . . Rnova is running even more workers now than last night.

I am getting about 1.1Kh on a fx 8350 throttled up to 4.3Ghz temps around 49 with a evo 212 hyper while x11 mining with a pair of radeon 6850's that are pulling 1.3Mh, wish I could spin them up on this coin as well but alas the miner is not available yet.

Also have an old dual core Athlon 64 4200+ that is pulling about .20Kh

Kinda sucks mining on a pool that is getting slammed since the other one is running 1300 Kh
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 20, 2015, 11:22:26 PM
Still a vast majority mining on one pool.  If the developer is launching another coin in the coming months they need to find a way to manually or automatically limit what any one given pool or node can process at any time to less than 48% of all hashing power.  There should be some way for the network to penalize them with a much higher difficulty than normal, this would either force the people to spread the hash or accept a reduced rate of finding for that node which would in turn encourage them to spread the hash rate and stabilize the coin base.

A miner with a high hashrate would be able to just spread out the mining onto multiple addresses.


But that would still help to prevent one pool from having a majority, a pool works under one address pooling their resources together and payment is made out later on.  A single person would need to have multiple wallets if they were self mining which would make it more difficult to exploit the coin.  The system would balance out as no one person would want to have a majority of hashing power, pool operators would try and self limit and single miners would not want to be over a majority as they would incur something that would prevent them from exploiting the system which would be much harder to do with multiple addresses.

I'm not proposing a reduction in hashing power just a way to help insure that it is spread between more than one pool or person.  IMHO the more hashing power the better especially later on as it will only increase the value but having it all at one place only hurts.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 20, 2015, 10:40:52 PM
Still a vast majority mining on one pool.  If the developer is launching another coin in the coming months they need to find a way to manually or automatically limit what any one given pool or node can process at any time to less than 48% of all hashing power.  There should be some way for the network to penalize them with a much higher difficulty than normal, this would either force the people to spread the hash or accept a reduced rate of finding for that node which would in turn encourage them to spread the hash rate and stabilize the coin base.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 20, 2015, 09:33:54 AM
Looking at the hash on Suprnova, I see the top 15 > 12KH/s. This is on one pool so there might be other farms doing just solo. This pretty much shows that after the first few hours the coin is already out of reach of CPU mining. The GPU's have taken over in order to get that kind of hash. Unless of course you setup CPUs on 30 PCs running on this but that would not be feasible energy wise.

Anyways, at least I got about 4 coins right at the start and now just dust. Ill leave the mix of CPUs on it for a few days for another coin or two and then shut the CPU miners down.

There probably is some data to get out of this test, but so far the prima facie similarities with monero and all those other X coins are striking. When I left those coins way back they were all text based. What I like about Sup though is the nice graphical wallet and I can see a lot of hard work went into it. There were also excellent work done on the pools to have everything work so smoothly. I am super impressed by the pools especially with Suprnova. I am just disappointed with effort that went into getting GPU miners working before the launch as it took the CPUs out way too early. The distribution of the coins will be very narrow to the GPU miners which is a pity as broad based distribution (BBD) is a key factor to reduce the risk of a coin being manipulated or being dumped on by some unscrupulous miners. I think the hash rates are supporting my concerns and disappointment and indicative of an BBD opportunity missed. I will keep watching it though and look for opportunities in the markets once listed.

Lets hope that his next coin is released in a manner that is fair to all. This was supposed to be a test before the BIG one - hopefully lessons will be learned. When the scabs sell cheap i'll buy if the coin shows promise

I doubt anything will stay 100% cpu at this point in the game.  Someone is either going to write the code to use a gpu or eventually ASIC's will come about through some form of manipulation to run the game.  The only two major problems I am seeing at this point is that only the Nvidia GPU miner was available at the beginning which forces a good chunk of people like me to be stuck running CPU only and the Majority of people hopped on the Suprnova pool rather than spreading the hash out to the other two that are available on the main page.  Right now the advertised has for Suprnova is around 600Kh while the others are at around 8Kh and 3Kh.  With 215 workers on the Suprnova pool that equals about 3Kh per user average even if the top 20 are running GPU at 10 to 15Kh that leaves a lot of others still running cpu.

All I have to say otherwise is look a the other available pools and SPREAD THE HASH people.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now! on: February 20, 2015, 06:24:04 AM
My CPU miner closes after start...Why is this?

Are you running a 32 bit OS or 64 bit OS & are you using a batch/bat/config file or settings ?

This is another way to start mining:

Open Command Prompt, drag the wolf cpu miner file over to the Command Prompt window, press space bar, copy & paste the following settings into the Command Prompt window and press enter = Mining on a Pool.

-o stratum+tcp://sup.suprnova.cc:7777 -O Username:Password

I run 64 bit windows OS and batch file like this-./minerd -t 6 -s 4 -o stratum+tcp://sup.suprnova.cc:7777 -u Weblogin.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

Your another way for mining is working fine,but mier uses only two threads...I have I7 processor...

You need to be using the miner posted in the first post of this thread for cpu or GPU.  I renamed the file so it was easier I would suggest you do the same so the wolf-pluckminer-generic64.exe would be just pluck.exe as is my case.

On the cpu side your batch needs to be something like this:

wolf-pluckminer-generic64.exe -o stratum+tcp://stratum.eu.sup.hardcoreminers.com:3022 -O Username.worker:password

You can use the same flags for thread if you like so you can add a -t 6 don't know about any others for this one.
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