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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EFF donations and the Bitcoin Faucet on: June 22, 2011, 02:40:26 AM
EFF blog post: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/06/eff-and-bitcoin

RE: refunding donations by proving you own one of the private keys that donated:  interesting idea!  Anybody willing to write code to do that?  Could be a fun project... (find all the transactions that donated to EFF, dig out the public keys, come up with a way to sign/verify a message with private key proving you own a public key, then keep track of which donation transactions have already been refunded)


I made a sizeable donation to the EFF when they first announced their acceptance of bitcoin donations so I would offer a 10 bitcoin bounty on this project if someone could develop a way to refund the bitcoins easily so Gavin doesn't have to manually go through them.  This code would be handy for other initiatives or startups that get discontinued and the original investors can recoup some of their investment.


i don't think this will work the way people intend. if i'm understanding correctly, the reason the EFF doesn't simply want to refund payments to the addresses from which the payments came is that those payment addresses could be controlled by intermediaries or otherwise can't be tied to the equitable owner of the donated funds. if that's the problem, allowing people to claim addresses by proving that they own them doesn't seem to solve much: the intermediary (e.g., mybitcoin) could still claim the addresses, perhaps through a proxy or 'beard' so that they wouldn't appear associated, and the EFF would be none the wiser.

to say that more simply, what problem would signing solve here? presumably we can assume that someone who sent money from an address owns that address (except in the rare event the private key was lost or stolen).

There is no good answer I can think of for people that who donated using an intermediary, unless the intermediary would be willing to refund the bitcoins back to the address that was sent to them.  At least for those that donated directly they can get the refund by returning the bitcoins to the address the donation was received from.

As someone who did donate to the EFF I am disappointed they made this decision but I understand it as well.  I would appreciate a refund of the bitcoins I sent so I could send them to other projects that could help with gathering mainstream usage of bitcoin or serve the community rather than a freebie handout to whoever has the biggest botnet.
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mtgox claim page is up on: June 22, 2011, 02:21:44 AM
Excellent news, hopefully this will help give people more confidence in Mt. Gox.
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tradehill Down? on: June 22, 2011, 02:16:28 AM
It's coming up here just fine.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: June 21, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
I understand the need for the new policy, and hope it will achieve the desired effect.

By 'desired effect', I mean increasing the signal-to-noise ratio in the main forum.

Just wanted to clarify that.

Right, as long as the noise is limited to the newbies forum it keeps the main forums much cleaner without all the crap posts like 90% of the stuff in here.  You gotta do what you gotta do.
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: June 21, 2011, 04:13:33 PM
I've been following the bitcoin scene for quite some time but never formally introduced myself.  The name is JoJo and I'm glad to be here and get back involved.
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: June 21, 2011, 04:11:11 PM
I've been a member for quite a while as a lurker and while i find bitcoins fascinating and follow discussions I haven't had an opportunity to contribute meaningfully so i haven't added to the noise.  With the recent decision by the EFF to discontinue taking bitcoins I would like to contribute to that thread and discussion but am unable to do so.  Please change my status, thanks!
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