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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 10, 2015, 10:14:16 PM
SOURCES:
http://archive.today/4kT43

http://pastebin.com/fqqig5EC

Josh Garza/Joe Mordica exchanges 2/11/2015 – 2/14/2015

EXCERPTS – PART 4 OF 4 – 2/14/2015:

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Joe Mordica     
Feb 14
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I have been thinking about this and I just don't think this is something I'm comfortable with.
 
With an investigation ongoing I can't be sure that the prime controller will still exist after it is over with, which would put me still having professional relationships with the company (if I were to do any work).
 
I don't mind doing a good press release and taking back over the Voip company (both of which I have started the process of this morning).
 
I'll need a few minutes of dan peases time to get the outstanding invoices paid for bandwidth and start swapping the billing information out but I can reach him direct no problem.
 
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Joe Mordica


Josh Garza     
Feb 14
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There may be some confusion here.
 
The controller I was offering is separate from gaw and would be in exchange for the work (help)
 
The work is completely outside the company, and is not related to the company.

Joe Mordica     
Feb 14
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How would the controller be separate from GAW if it is a GAW asset?
 
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Joe Mordica

 
Josh Garza     
Feb 14
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It's not a gaw asset. A number of controllers were told to teampaycoin a while back. Those have all been delivered to them.
Sent from my mobile phone

Josh Garza     
Feb 14
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The work is for them.
Sent from my mobile phone


Joe Mordica     
Feb 14
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Should I reach out to Adam to get more details on the project? I hope you understand how important it is for me to be aware of the scope before committing as this would be sub-contracting work with a very small understanding of the details of the project.
 
I would also need to secure the prime controller before beginning the project (but I can negotiate with Adam on terms) unless you haven't spoken to him already.
 
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Joe Mordica


 
Josh Garza     
Feb 14
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I am managing the project.
 
Why dont we do this. Since you agreed to taking back smart-tech in your previous email, lets wrap that up.
 
Once thats done and everything is signed up, then we can revisit this.
 
If you want to do the work, then we can sign over the controller, if not thats fine too. We should be able to find someone to work for a month and a half for 150k Smiley
 
Sound good?
 
 
 
Josh Garza
 
2  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 10, 2015, 10:03:09 PM
SOURCES:
http://archive.today/4kT43

http://pastebin.com/fqqig5EC

Josh Garza/Joe Mordica exchanges 2/11/2015 – 2/14/2015

EXCERPTS – PART 3 OF 4 – 2/13/2015:

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Joe Mordica    
Feb 13
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That would work for me. Which prime controller did you have in mind?
 
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Joe Mordica
    

Josh Garza      
Feb 13
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A single, and it would come with some strings Smiley
 
As I think its very generous.
 
Josh Garza

Joe Mordica    
Feb 13
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What are the strings?
 
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Joe Mordica


Josh Garza      
Feb 13
Other recipients: jmor...@gmail.com
 
Full release of company
can only cash out X amount per week (we can decide what that is)
45 days of your time to help deploy a private project
positive press release


Joe Mordica    
Feb 13
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How many coins can be cashed out, and what are the specifics on the private project and I will decide how long it will take to do.

 
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Joe Mordica
Josh Garza      
Feb 13
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It will be much longer than 45 days, but that will at least get it started. I can not go in to the project yet. Only to say that its nothing you would be tied to, its legal, etc.
 
You make the recommendation on the cashing out

 
Josh Garza

Joe Mordica    
Feb 13
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75% of the stake earnings cash out per day.
 
I can't go into this deal having no idea what the project would be though.
 
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Joe Mordica

Josh Garza      
Feb 13
Other recipients: jmor...@gmail.com

I am comfortable with all the stake. As long as the principal is not touched for two year.
 
The project will be tough then. The past few weeks have damaged my trust, so I do not fel comfortable talking about it unless we are moving forward.
 
Here is what I will say.
 
It would be in the crypto space. Manage a team of developers to build something. The scope would be designing it, identify the resources required, choosing the contractors, and managing them until the main goals or met or the 45 days. Which ever comes first.
 
 
 
Josh Garza
3  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 10, 2015, 09:23:34 PM
SOURCES:
http://archive.today/4kT43

http://pastebin.com/fqqig5EC

Josh Garza/Joe Mordica exchanges 2/11/2015 – 2/14/2015

EXCERPTS – PART 2 OF 4 – 2/12/2015:

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On Feb 12, 2015 1:21 AM, "Joe Mordica" <jmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you even read the message?


On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com> wrote:
Joe,
Let's talk about action.
So far,  my action has been to stick with things to make sure our staff have a job and our customers are successful.
Yours have been to be disingenuous about time frame on when you would be leaving, what you would complete before you moved on, and most recently, an attempt to blackmail the company.
You have such a huge moral resolve that you feel compelled to write that you were "asked to do something wrong" . Yet, you will only release that if you don't get paid an arbitrary amount of money?
An amount that exceeds what you are even contractually owed to begin with.
But.... your willing to write a nice "public statement" if you do get paid?
Imagine what the public will think? The best part, is your attorney was bright enough to put it all in writing......
Not to mention, the "press release" is a lie to begin with and it's easy for me to prove.
You seem to forget the part where your last email said "We BOTH agreed not to move forward". You should also take a look at the previous emails on that chain, as they don't sound like a guy "not wanting" to do something.....
Not withstanding, there are plenty of emails floating around my inbox showing what you have been "comfortable" with in the past.
We are in the process of hiring a litigation firm to bring legal action against you for attempting to blackmail our company out of money and violating your NDA.
To date, we have already offered you more than you are contractually entitled to (as an act of good faith)
Like I said in my email the other day, make sure this is the path you want to go down. Once I bring these guys on retainer, there is not going back.
Despite the appalling nature of your "negotiation tactics" and the bridges you have burned, I am more than willing to provide you what we contractually agreed on and move on.



On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com> wrote:
Joe, I want to focus on getting things resolved and move on. Not debate about how things are said.
Sent from my mobile phone


On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com> wrote:
We are willing to offer the stock you are owed. I have to check, but it may have already been issued. Should that be the case, this whole thing would be a moot point.
In addition, the revenue stream from the customer base that was what you provided for the stock.
In other words, you would be getting your company back and keep your stock.
The alternative was outlined in the email I sent last.
Sent from my mobile phone

On Feb 12, 2015 4:39 PM, "Joe Mordica" <jmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems as if this is a one way conversation still (I was hoping to have a real dialogue but understand that may not be possible). A conversation is the exchange of "both" parties address points/ideas and not only one party. "Action" withstanding thought carries little weight/substance in any scenario (especially when forming a business plan in one day and putting it into "action" the next).
 
Try this: Next time you receive an email from someone you respect/respected who's feedback requires some time to think before responding, take a few hours before actually responding. It will help both parties have an actual conversation instead of a pissing battle which is derived from only emotional thoughts.
 
Please review my last message. I addressed your points and hardly asked a real question of my own, yet you avoid my points almost entirely and continue to hurl all of your keyboard. It's fine to bring up new topics but read over your email before sending (or have someone else).
 
BTW, to your point of offering more than I was contracted. What you offered me was an unprofitable business with angry customers that are not being supported. You don't have the technical resources to run the company or the money to buy any. This is the "easiest" offering (if you want to call it that) which I actually agreed to accept if you look at the last proposal from us.


On Feb 12, 2015 5:02 PM, "Joe Mordica" <jmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
1. Do you plan to make right on financial promises not contracted?
 
2. Do you plan to counter my most recent proposal involving the VoIP company?



On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Joe Mordica <jmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
As you know, the stock is really worth nothing at this point (but I will need proof as to whether or not it even exists). When will you know this by?

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I think that would be smart.
 
I was just thinking about this. The longer we drag this out, the more it will cost both of us.
 
I have been thinking about a few solutions (in good faith). Prob the best one I have come up with so far, would be to give you a prime controller.  (emphasis mine)
4  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 10, 2015, 09:16:47 PM
DISCLOSURE:

I am not nor have I ever been a GAW customer/investor, and I have never posted here before. But I have followed this story for the last 1000 pages. I want to see the truth exposed about GAW and Josh Garza, whatever that may be. When the large archive was public, I saw this exchange between Josh Garza and Joe Mordica. I don’t believe I’ve seen it mentioned here yet. All I have seen is the lawyer’s letter with the demand for $500k in bitcoin. There are some additional interesting details contained herein.



SOURCES:
http://archive.today/4kT43

http://pastebin.com/fqqig5EC

Josh Garza/Joe Mordica exchanges 2/11/2015 – 2/14/2015

EXCERPTS – PART 1 OF 4 – 2/11/2015:

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On Feb 11, 2015, at 18:16, Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com> wrote:
 
Thanks, and I want you to know. Your attempts to blackmail the company, staff and I are not going to work.
Sent from my mobile phone


On Feb 11, 2015, at 18:27, Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com> wrote:
 
I am not talking about this.
I am taking about the other conversation
What your doing is wrong. Trying to blackmail us to get more than you are owed is not going to work. I have no issue giving you what your entitled to. But more than that comes from our customers and staff, and I will not let that happen.
Sent from my mobile phone



On Feb 11, 2015 8:31 PM, "Joe Mordica" <jmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
If you want to talk about what I'm actually "owed" from promises you made to me (which I have not discussed with my attorney or anyone else) I would be more than willing to have a separate conversation.
 
Frankly, I'm not confident any contracted equity was ever given based on the lack of responses and follow through from your end to negotiate.
 
Also, to your original response, have you even consulted Dave as to whether or not the original message is blackmail? My guess is that he doesn't care to address it because it would be an emotional reaction to do so.
 
Lastly, (to your last sentence) why would I ask for more than I'm entitled to? Have I ever "asked" for anything at all? I don't recall. I am negotiating nickels and dimes compared to some of the other expenses GAW owes.
 
This may land on deaf ears but I feel like it needs to be said. With respect, go spend time with your family. Take a break (and I don't mean just not coming into the office). Put your phone down. Let Dan/Jonah run the company. Lean on your assets (employees). Don't react emotionally. I am saying, change your lifestyle/work habits.
 
The only way people will begin to trust GAW again is for these things to happen. I know you want things to change but your actions don't show it. You keep doing the same thing (which will always yield the same results). Of course I don't want to see the thing I poured my life into go down the drain. I am confident in the decisions I made. I am also confident that if you realized the value in making the changes I've mentioned, you would have already done so ( hence the reason I felt the need to relay these thoughts to you again).
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