Bitcoin Forum
June 14, 2024, 08:33:10 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: [1]
1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 02:35:33 AM
Well, already I've gotten tired. I've solidly stated my point. If the name changes, I'm out of this coin for good,

Goodbye.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 02:10:30 AM

Like I said idiotic and this will be detrimental...way to fuck it up guys Darkcoin was something great

That is the point that has me upset the most, to make such a drastic(and frankly stupid) change such as this without even having a vote by the darkcoin community/foundation members. Way to go with the "decentralized" currency, Evan. Congrats with your new found dictatorship.

You have to remember Evan has a history of making decisions without votes. Wasn't it just a few short months back when he offered to buy ShadowCash without the community aware :

Quote
The total market cap of ShadowCash will be calculated (say for example $600,000), at which point that amount as a percentage of Darkcoin will be created (say for example $16,000,000). $600000/$16000000 will represent an additional 3.75% of Darkcoins market cap. At the merging date, Darkcoin’s market cap will be extended 3.75% to give the ShadowCash users the same value they had in ShadowCash.

Yep, he decided he could just change the rules and "add more coins". Wait a second, maybe he was really trying to by the ShadowCash name instead of the developers?!?! I guess digital cash "Dash" is somewhat the same worse similar.

If so, then he needs to stop trying to run Darkcoin like it's his company where he makes all the decisions, it's a "decentralized currency" for god sakes.

+10000

evan make a Dark Coin, but Dark Coin live untill today because of community, evan should make a vote,...without vote and voice of community coin will be death

I think is impossible to community vote on something like this really, think about it. You vote in the market, if you think Darkcoin rebranding to a more friendly brand will facilitate its adoption and help it acquire a larger market share you vote by Buying. If you think it is better to stay as Darkcoin for future adoption and potential you vote by selling.   Voting will take some time.  

I am looking forward to see Evan's proposed solution to the scalability issue, people completely forgot about that on the middle of the branding discussion.

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rebranding-and-scalability.4254/

Go read Evan's announcement, then read the last 50 pages and take some time to make up your own mind.

That's exactly how things like this work. You vote to get changes done, the developer doesn't just come up and do a major change all willy nilly by himself like he owns everything. You're suppose to have a conensus among the community from things like voting. Evan making the name change himself is a literal arrow to the knee.

I can't believe there are actually some in this community that support it. You support the direct opposite approach to decentralization? A dictatorship? 
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 01:49:08 AM

I want to applaud Evan for having the courage to make the tough decisions.  If Darkcoin ever wants to go mainstream, a name change is indeed needed.  I for one absolutely love the new name!  

Amen to that.

He's taken tough decisions on his own in the past in the face of mass screaming and shouting. The last one that was almost a carbon copy of this was when RC3 got launched and forked. He reverted it when everyone was telling him not to and if he hadn't done that we'd have been screwed.

I can't help thinking he's made the right call here as well - despite all the toy throwing.

When you actually sit down and put the logic together there is no other way to go. So what they're dumping. There's at least as many who never bought in because they though this coin had a glass ceiling due to a toxic name and wider market impenetrability. Even Bitcoin has a nightmare of a time over getting the "criminals charter" label slapped on it. Darkcoin's just a non starter for many.


When RC3's incident happened, I remember most of the members pushing for a rollback, not otherwise. That scenario also can't be compared as that's a technical aspect(Of which frankly most involved with cryptos aren't specialized in) This is something entirely different, as the name itself is one of the most important aspects of the coin, and what distinguishes it as an anonymous currency in the crypto world. Evan wrongly takes it upon himself to be the sole decision maker in what's suppose to be a decentralized cryptocurrency, not a company.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 01:43:08 AM


Like I said idiotic and this will be detrimental...way to fuck it up guys Darkcoin was something great

That is the point that has me upset the most, to make such a drastic(and frankly stupid) change such as this without even having a vote by the darkcoin community/foundation members. Way to go with the "decentralized" currency, Evan. Congrats with your new found dictatorship.

You have to remember Evan has a history of making decisions without votes. Wasn't it just a few short months back when he offered to buy ShadowCash without the community aware : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HrGDKKtr5cKKE8Iu7aOw1vXbVTGk9078sQaWlprZYrs/edit?usp=sharing

Quote
The total market cap of ShadowCash will be calculated (say for example $600,000), at which point that amount as a percentage of Darkcoin will be created (say for example $16,000,000). $600000/$16000000 will represent an additional 3.75% of Darkcoins market cap. At the merging date, Darkcoin’s market cap will be extended 3.75% to give the ShadowCash users the same value they had in ShadowCash.

Yep, he decided he could just change the rules and "add more coins". Wait a second, maybe he was really trying to by the ShadowCash name instead of the developers?!?! I guess digital cash "Dash" is somewhat the same worse similar.

If so, then he needs to stop trying to run Darkcoin like it's his company where he makes all the decisions, it's a "decentralized currency" for god sakes.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 12:51:55 AM


Like I said idiotic and this will be detrimental...way to fuck it up guys Darkcoin was something great

That is the point that has me upset the most, to make such a drastic(and frankly stupid) change such as this without even having a vote by the darkcoin community/foundation members. Way to go with the "decentralized" currency, Evan. Congrats with your new found dictatorship.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 12:35:54 AM




Just a hint: Litecoin's volume on many chinese exchanges, which I know is what you're referring to, is faked. Many of those exchanges have 0% trading fees, so users just use bots and trade back and forth with themselves to create the illusion of volume.

Also, the name "dark" coin" in Mandarin(Chinese) is not Devilcoin. Whoever told you that is "FUDing"/lying.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 12:16:16 AM
Guys, please don't let your sentimental attachment to the old name cloud your judgement. Darkcoin would never gain traction outside of dark markets and nerds. When I brought it up to anyone outside of crypto, people had immediate negative reactions to the name. It makes sense to us, but for others dark= bad, criminal, evil etc.

Bitcoin is barley outside nerds and DNMs.... so why not cater to the people actually buying it... you all keep acting like theirs a chance to surpass bitcoin.. THERE ISNT... if you cant understand or stomach that, well Fools are meant to part with their money

That is the reality. The hope is to get a part of the marketshare in anonymity. Darkcoin/Dash is not going to surpass Bitcoin, end of point. What Evan and his totalitarian rule is doing now, is decreasing the chances of Darkcoin/Dash being used as an actual anonymous crytpocurrency within the crypto community, which is the only hope that Darkcoin/Dash would actually thrive.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 12:08:49 AM

LOL when OTOH sees the re-branding and pulls his walls cause he to is a DARKcoin lover

Come up with a better name then.


simple.... DARKCOIN

+1. There is no better name. Darkcoin is the namebrand, has the SEO on search engines, and conveys the message that the currency is about anonymity. Change that and you've got nothing left.

But it seems Evan couldn't give two fucks about what the community wants, and instead becomes a totalitarian ruler, changing the name when he feels fit.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Evan's turning Darkcoin/ "Dash" into a centralized company on: March 09, 2015, 11:28:33 PM
So, the point of this thread is to express the absolute bullshit that is going on right now. Darkcoin's developer has proposed that Darkcoin be renamed, Dash. I myself am extremely against this renaming as Darkcoin embodies exactly what the currency does, provide anonymity. It's name is "unique" in the sense that it's the first currency to have a privacy centered, english name. Besides my opinion of the name and it's meaningfulness, other important factors also come into play.

1) Type darkcoin into Google, and you'll find a millienia of results around the coin. Darkcoin was also a unique domain name/seo wise, because nothing was ever named Darkcoin before Evan coined the name up in March. Changing it to Dash or any other name will make it 10x harder to get any meaningful google search results.

2) My biggest issue is that Evan continues to treat Darkcoin like a company, not a decentralized currency. From what I've seen, he made plans to go straight into changing Darkcoin's name to Dash without even having a vote on it by the foundation members or darkcoin's community at all. One man can't make decisions like this, yet Evan chooses to do so.




It is that time again for a branding discussion, or is Evan trolling?

we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak

I vote for otohcoin  Grin

So without any vote or anything by the community/foundation members, Evan just goes ahead and decides to make the change to "DASH" by himself, in a coin that's supposed to be decentralized? Give me a fucking break. This is pissing me off completely. Disappointed with him.

There  talk about on Darkcointalk,move from bitcointalk a bit...

As per qwizzie said, " we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak".

when i read the post about rebranding i was kinda hoping this would be an very early 1st of april foolsday joke.

So we are going for a third rebranding in what ? less then 16 months ? i sure hope you guys know what you are doing and
have really thought this through because with a rebranding you will have so much lost already (name recognition for a start)
and its very unsure you achieve what your hoping to achieve with the name Dash. And to be honest i'm not getting any vibe
from the name Dash so i'm not too thrilled about that part either.

my two duffs,


qwizzie
  
I agree

Let me just say who I am,

I would be considered a Darkcoin "whale"(over 50k DRK), and I've been alongside this coin for ages, since back in March, 2014. Darkcoin's been through some hard, controversial times, but it's pulled through and reached new heights in the crypto world. I recently saw a proposal for a name change(About the 5th time I've seen these talks). All I can say is, I'm fucking tired of it, I'm tired of the fuckups and the changes. Let Darkcoin be the way it is and improve upon Masternode anonymity and instant transactions and whatever other exciting new additions that will come to be. Darkcoin's entire being and recognition as a currency lies in it's name. I myself especially like the name darkcoin because of how powerful it sounds by mouth alone, something that goes against the ever transparent system that's out there. Changing it to something as shitty as "Dash" is utter fucking bullshit.

If Darkcoin continues on this stupid path I'm out, I'm done, and I'm gonna sell my coins and call it quits with this coin. Too much bullshit.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 10:37:39 PM

It is that time again for a branding discussion, or is Evan trolling?

we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak

I vote for otohcoin  Grin

So without any vote or anything by the community/foundation members, Evan just goes ahead and decides to make the change to "DASH" by himself, in a coin that's supposed to be decentralized? Give me a fucking break. This is pissing me off completely. Disappointed with him.

There  talk about on Darkcointalk,move from bitcointalk a bit...

As per qwizzie said, " we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak".
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 10:30:46 PM

It is that time again for a branding discussion, or is Evan trolling?

we are discussing it, but appearently its getting implemented as we speak

I vote for otohcoin  Grin

So without any vote or anything by the community/foundation members, Evan just goes ahead and decides to make the change to "DASH" by himself, in a coin that's supposed to be decentralized? Give me a fucking break. This is pissing me off completely. Disappointed with him.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 09:54:26 PM
when i read the post about rebranding i was kinda hoping this would be an very early 1st of april foolsday joke.

So we are going for a third rebranding in what ? less then 16 months ? i sure hope you guys know what you are doing and
have really thought this through because with a rebranding you will have so much lost already (name recognition for a start)
and its very unsure you achieve what your hoping to achieve with the name Dash. And to be honest i'm not getting any vibe
from the name Dash so i'm not too thrilled about that part either.

my two duffs,


qwizzie
  
I agree

Let me just say who I am,

I would be considered a Darkcoin "whale"(over 50k DRK), and I've been alongside this coin for ages, since back in March, 2014. Darkcoin's been through some hard, controversial times, but it's pulled through and reached new heights in the crypto world. I recently saw a proposal for a name change(About the 5th time I've seen these talks). All I can say is, I'm fucking tired of it, I'm tired of the fuckups and the changes. Let Darkcoin be the way it is and improve upon Masternode anonymity and instant transactions and whatever other exciting new additions that will come to be. Darkcoin's entire being and recognition as a currency lies in it's name. I myself especially like the name darkcoin because of how powerful it sounds by mouth alone, something that goes against the ever transparent system that's out there. Changing it to something as shitty as "Dash" is utter fucking bullshit.

If Darkcoin continues on this stupid path I'm out, I'm done, and I'm gonna sell my coins and call it quits with this coin. Too much bullshit.
Pages: [1]
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!