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Any rate will find the seller. Thanks for the warning, but i know very well what i'm doing.
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My BTC for your gift cards or prepaid debit cards.
Buying:
- Walmart GIFT CARDS - 55% rate $500 and $1000 denomination
- Greendot Pre-Paid cards - 50% rate $500 denomination
- Ebay Gift Cards - 40% rate $500 denomination
- Moneypak - 60% rate $500 denomination
- Walmart MONEY CARD - 45% rate $500 denomination
and maybe other by request.
Rates are not negotiable. More details in private.
No payment upfront or codes upfront requirements. Only legit and consacrated escrow will be used.
For more details contact me in private.
Thanks!!!
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Just another scammer, watch out for this guy!!!!!!!!!
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And finally what i aim for. The last posts of turtle show's his true character. This is what i told you from beginning, that he is just a corp full of shit, that only looks for gain, with any price.
I'm glad i manage to reach my goal and show what turtle is maid from.
Good luck sucker and i hope in this time i will meet you and than i will show you something that you will never imagine. We are not so far away than you think and i have the advantage to know who you are.
The posts here have been do give you negative for last business, what will happen to you if i will ever see you in front of me, can imagine that, really.
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And now guys to see how honest he is, I told you in my other posts that he helped with my LBC account, help that i paid for $350. Now he made complain with LBC that i stole his identity.
How low can you be doing this? So he scam me for the 845 (total 975) plus 350 i paid for his service it's a total of $1,325. Nice job dude, you are the most honest people in the world, i hope to not find such serious guys like you never, LOL.
You deserve all the negative you can get from this community. This community help you build your trust, you piece of shit that you are.
I hope this will be a lesson for me and for everybody.
When you are dealing with a shit guy, always use escrow. Doesn't matter how honest he appear, if you doubt his character, ALWAYS use escrow, because in the end you will be scammed.
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@turtle - Surely you at least got a tracking number when you sent the coins back, correct? If not then how would you have handled a dispute with Amazon that the coins did not arrive? Also if not then what exact service did you get when you sent the coins back?
Finally, someone that can see the picture in this shit, LOL. Plus, i found something similar to my problem and surprise who iss the negative part? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=854105.0 |
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You gave me your word that you would send Bitcoins back to me this time if the gift cards were stolen after I showed you the 1st email, and I almost sent them at that point. Now you fully know and acknowledge the gift cards are stolen, so if you're a man of your word you shouldn't be demanding payment and trying to ruin my reputation. You told me you think I'm making all this up, which is unnecessary since you can go ahead and confirm yourself without posting false accusations. I never expected this from you after all the legitimate business we did... The situation in that LBC dispute is quite similar to what happened to me as you know, see above screenshots. Only difference is I didn't send Bitcoins immediately, and since it was out of escrow if I did send I'd be out $1500. Show me proof the coin was sent back and i will stop everything, if not you owe me 1300 (price of the coin) x 0.65 = $845. PERIOD I never said that the codes are fraudlent. With that guy the problem was his account, it was a new account he tried to load $2000 and he got his account locked by amazon. I resolved the issue with my 2 codes and paid him back. IT was other situation. For our deal the conclusion is next and the way to resolve it is very simple: I gave you 3x500 codes, you used 1300 to buy Eagle gold coin, problems appear, you resolve it, coin arrived, problems again appeared. - I accept this Than you said to resolve the last problem i need to send the coin back and i kindly ask you to show me proof that it was sent back, than is when you sent prt sc with the e-mails (that doesn't show you sent the coins back) and than i know that you didn't sent the coin back. That is when i lost my trust in you and i start to think you scam me. Now after all this happen you should simply show the proof that you sent the coin back and i was the sucker in all this story, but it end that you are the scammer here.I did expect this from you and i wanted to ended before this happen, but i was to stupid, listening to your requests and my guy requests and i said, what the hell, one more time and i'm done. Indeed i'm done with you but with a lost of $845. The community, still not believe this and don't want to see the proofs, outside quickseller that is objective, i would say "very" objective, but the english grammar will not take it. LOL, the rest are seeing a hero member accusing a newbie. Problem is i'm newbie here, but not a newbie at all. IN EVERY COUNTRY FROM THIS WORLD IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SEND VALUE IN ENVELOPE WITHOUT A RECEIPT. |
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what I don't get is why DjVoodo doesn't ask Amazon for a clarification on said fraudulent codes? first thing I would do as a seller...
it doesn't really matter how your customer used the cards, if they're fraudulent it's his business to deal with consequences.
Best solution would be to ask a trusted escrow to investigate and ask amazon for a statement on the codes.
favdesu, this matter here is about, that turtle keep the coin, that he obtain from that "fraudlent" codes and that he didn't pay my share. If he sent the proof that the coin was returned, it was no problem, i would never open nothing against him. How can i call amazon and ask them, look did a guy zachary...blablabla, return the coin to you? Quick questions for you guys: 1. If i buy one item on ebay, paying with ebay gift cards, the item is shipped and received, means the seller of the item got the payment. In the mean time, the cards value are canceled, but i already got the item. Now the question, to whom i return the "value" (item or payment???!!!)  ?? 2. In this case, if i would send it back trough US post, there must be a tracking number and a paper, PHYSICAL PAPER, showing that i sent something trough them. Am i right? |
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Do either of your have any kind of agreement that you can show that would document the terms of the trade? From the looks of it turtlehurricane has pictures of codes that are potentially fraudulent. He also apparently also loaded those codes onto either his or someone's amazon account and received some kind of gold coin after spending the funds from those codes.
turtlehurricane claims that the fraudulent codes were from DjVoodoo and that he returned the gold coin back to amazon. However this appears to be unsubstantiated, is there any kind of documentation to show that amazon actually received this gold coin back?
DjVoodoo claims that the merchant who sold the gold coin has received payment from amazon, however this seems to be unsubstantiated and would be contradictory to turtlehurricane's claim. He also claims that he does not know anything about the cards being fraudulent.
The trust rating from DjVoodoo to turtlehurricane claims that he sent $1,500 worth of AGC in exchange for 3.75BTC, which works out to $400/BTC. The highest the $/BTC price has been in the last two months is $316 on bitfinex. I am curious to know why exactly that someone would be willing to part with his gift cards for such a low price.
Our agreement, is our history for the last 6 months we did business together, always with hassle, but we did over 50k in business, all together. I post in my first reply the turtle... text messages print screens to me, showing he received the coin by his affirmation, plus, quickseller, how can be ubsustantiated, if he is saying that the coin was sent back? LOL. Clearly he had the coin in hands, this means, the merchant got paid, so the problem was at amazon, because in this story, in the end, amazon got screwed by what turtle is saying. 3.75 btc at 250 that was the btc 2 weeks ago, if not higher, means aprox 975, that is .65 from 500 amazon card. The cards have been paid cash 100%, receipts are showing that, pictures being HD, can be verified at the store. Now, how can you send something, with big value without a receipt? I think someone is not seeing the big picture here. Don't you see that his words don't connect, if you will follow all the posts plus the print screens i took to his texts? HE is saying to me and to first posts here, that the coins was sent back to amazon, now was sent to merchant. LOL What was the agreement specifically? Under what conditions would he give you the 3.75 BTC? I understand that he had acknowledged that he received the gold coin, however I also acknowledge that there may be risks to keeping some kind of product after paying for such product with a fraudulent gift card (assuming it is true that the gift card is in fact fraudulent). I am not familiar with the accounting system at Amazon nor am I familiar with how merchants are paid. I would assume that it would be something along the lines of that amazon advises the merchants that they are okay to sent a product at a certain point and would guarantee payment at that time. Also that if amazon needs to process a refund/return then the merchant would not receive such payment. I would acknowledge that the merchant was at one point paid, however the question remains if they have still been paid. The question also remains if turtle is able to document the fact that he in fact returned the gold coin. I would also question the "$200 markup" that turtle is claiming he would have had to have paid if he kept the coin, this really does not make sense to me. I would also like to question turtle (again) as to what exactly he was expecting when he was agreeing to sell his bitcoin at a ~$150 premium above the market rate when he was receiving gift cards that were supposedly purchased in cash very recently.... The agreement was like this: I give him 1500 in amazon codes, that means 3x500, he redeem the cards, order the gold coin, receive it, sell it and ONLY than i will get my btc. This agreement worked for over 10 coins (i really don't know exactly, because we did sometime twice a week this, sometimes once per week, for the last 2 months). The amazon cards always came from same guy, so if one is fraudulent, than all was, in this case turtle should be in jail for at least 1 month now. The rate was like this .65 for me .35 for him. We start doing this at .75 for me but when first order came, he change the agreement at .70 with my btc at him, so i couldn't disagree, because he was paying me that anyway, and before second he do it .65. Now i was selling amazon on lbc on .70, but because i have honor and i like to keep my old connections (we worked before on ppmc codes), i lower the rate at .65. So his rate was under the LBC rate. IF you want on LBC to find the high rate ok, but behind the scene on LBC there are other rates, because they allow trusted user service and the listings are hidden from the rest of the users. He knows very well my rate on lbc, because i gave him acces to my account when he help me there. And as quickseller said above, if he got the coin, he must pay per agreement, because all the steps have been fulfill. The other thing that i didn't pay attention because i didn't want. Amazon will never ask compensation, i did check this, so there is no $200 fee penalty. In the worst case they close your account and do legal steps against you.. So MR. Zachary Gruskin, you did subestimate my intelligence, based on my kindness and that i always tried to work with you lowering my rate, but all this turn against you and this forum now knows what dickhead you are now. It was so simple to not get this headache by sending proof that the coin or payment was returned and all this never exist. But as you keep the coin for you and didn't want to pay me, you will get this shit all over. |
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As i said, he got the coin and he keep the money. There is no proof that he sent it back. This means that he is to greedy and he will scam you at the first chance that will have, outside that will always re-negotiate the rate in his favor, doesn't matter if you are some old business partner. This guy is just another junk in this world and i'm very sorry that i worked so long with him, because i was 100% that this will end bad for me one day.
I had the feeling before giving him the last amazon codes, but i said, c'mon the world is not so bad as you think, but it is.
The world will fuck you at first sign of weakness, LOL.
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Yes that happen on LBC and when the guy provide enough proof showing it was invalid, i sent him back the coins, FROM MY WALLET, LBC wallet was 0 AND I CAN SHOW THAT. So if i wanted i could close the wallet and not send back to that user almost $700, and yes you help me in that matter.
I didn't denied that is possible for amazon to send you that e-mails.
I WANT THE PROOF YOU SENT THE COIN BACK, that cannot be done, i explained in my posts above, why, this means that you must sent the cash back to amazon and doing it by US post, that is absolutely NOT POSSIBLE.
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There are two separate problems here:
DjVoodo: do you deny it was a stolen code or a code obtained with a stolen credit card or any other illegal means? Are you recognizing that accusation? How exactly did you get that code? Were you surprised at all with the news that Amazon cancelled that gift card?
turtlehurricane: please post the email receipt you got when you sent that item back. Also any emails or other communication with the seller. I'm sure you got something.
I literally went to the post office and sent it in the original packaging, after confirming where to send it on the phone. There's no online receipt, besides that the purchase went from my orders page to cancelled. If I was to keep the merchandise I would have had to pay an extra $200 due to high markup, that would make no sense. And I'm certainly not going to keep goods obtained with stolen gift cards. Also, I would've never tried to get the order to ship if I was aware the codes were stolen, emails were received/noticed after it shipped. I held out hope it was just an account issue, but Amazon confirmed on 8/16 it was in fact stolen gift cards. I am glad my account survived this. Also to clarify, the funds were frozen less than 12 hours after loading the cards. I got it fixed and then they were frozen again that night, once again I fixed it and then the item was shipped about 6 hours later. Then funds were frozen again, and that's the point at which I found the email stating the gift cards were invalid/stolen. Amazon is very disorganized when it comes to this to say the least. Talk about some luck on your account not being permentantly suspended or anything.. Cause that real hassle would start, esp when you want to purchase stuff in the future. But yeah, if the funds are fronzen less then that he prob got a carded card. In the future though, its better to just buy a smaller amount to see if the suppliers cards dont go bad and measure your risk. luciann, i never gave him carded cards, and he know that very well. You cn check the picture HE uploaded and see that are cash, also if you want you can call the store and verify the receipt. |
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There are two separate problems here:
DjVoodo: do you deny it was a stolen code or a code obtained with a stolen credit card or any other illegal means? Are you recognizing that accusation? How exactly did you get that code? Were you surprised at all with the news that Amazon cancelled that gift card?
turtlehurricane: please post the receipt you got when you sent that item back. Also any emails or other communication with the seller. I'm sure you got something.
Yes, i deny, because from same guy we bought over 10 coins without any problem, this means over 15k in amazon codes. And he knows very well this, the problem is i clean my inbox with the texts showing this and showing how he ask for more codes from my guy. This was my fault. Until than the problem is not in my affirmations, it is in his affirmations, that re not the same from 1 hour to another. Guys read again top to bottom his posts. Maybe i'm not a hero member here, but at least i don't lie and i don't play the victim role. When i open this i knew that i lost my money forever, but at least i knew that i will teach some other newbies to not deal again with this scam. |
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Do either of your have any kind of agreement that you can show that would document the terms of the trade? From the looks of it turtlehurricane has pictures of codes that are potentially fraudulent. He also apparently also loaded those codes onto either his or someone's amazon account and received some kind of gold coin after spending the funds from those codes.
turtlehurricane claims that the fraudulent codes were from DjVoodoo and that he returned the gold coin back to amazon. However this appears to be unsubstantiated, is there any kind of documentation to show that amazon actually received this gold coin back?
DjVoodoo claims that the merchant who sold the gold coin has received payment from amazon, however this seems to be unsubstantiated and would be contradictory to turtlehurricane's claim. He also claims that he does not know anything about the cards being fraudulent.
The trust rating from DjVoodoo to turtlehurricane claims that he sent $1,500 worth of AGC in exchange for 3.75BTC, which works out to $400/BTC. The highest the $/BTC price has been in the last two months is $316 on bitfinex. I am curious to know why exactly that someone would be willing to part with his gift cards for such a low price.
Our agreement, is our history for the last 6 months we did business together, always with hassle, but we did over 50k in business, all together. I post in my first reply the turtle... text messages print screens to me, showing he received the coin by his affirmation, plus, quickseller, how can be ubsustantiated, if he is saying that the coin was sent back? LOL. Clearly he had the coin in hands, this means, the merchant got paid, so the problem was at amazon, because in this story, in the end, amazon got screwed by what turtle is saying. 3.75 btc at 250 that was the btc 2 weeks ago, if not higher, means aprox 975, that is .65 from 500 amazon card. The cards have been paid cash 100%, receipts are showing that, pictures being HD, can be verified at the store. Now, how can you send something, with big value without a receipt? I think someone is not seeing the big picture here. Don't you see that his words don't connect, if you will follow all the posts plus the print screens i took to his texts? HE is saying to me and to first posts here, that the coins was sent back to amazon, now was sent to merchant. LOL |
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ARE YOU RETARDED???!!!!
HOW TO SEND GOLD COIN TO AMAZON, IF YOU BOUGHT IT ON AMAZON, FROM SOMEONE SELLING THERE, PLUS THE PROBLEM IS WITH AMAZON, NOT WITH THE COMPANY YOU BOUGHT THE COIN. THEY DID GET THE PAYMENT,BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE COIN WASN'T SHIPPED.
FIRST STRIKE
AMAZON SAYING THE CODES ARE INVALID, LET'S SAY SO, WHERE IS THE E-MAIL STATING THAT YOU NEED TO REPAY THEM BACK?
SECOND STRIKE
WHAT YOU SENT BY EMAIL? MONEY IN ENVELOPE TO AMAZON? THEY DON'T ACCEPT CASH BY MAIL, REALLY THEY DON'T. ABOUT THE GOLD COIN I JUST TAKE THAT POSSIBILITY OUT AT MY FIRST STRIKE.
AND STRIKE THREE.
Now guys, i'm aware that i will never receive my money back from this dickhead, but nobody should use this guy again for online payment, without escrow. This is what i had to say.
I prove, once again, based on his affirmation this time, that he is just a low life, that is ruled by money.
And his next step will be to give me negative feedback. Please check time that i told him i will write the scam accusation and the time that he post, his scam accusation.
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HE forgot to said that he received the product(gold coin) and that he sold it and got the money, but never send it back. http://imgur.com/2m6ugeiI received the amazon email about a day later, and at that point realized the gift cards were stolen. I sent the merchandise back, I would never facilitate this sort of crime. I am sickened that you sent me stolen gift cards in the first place and are now trying to ruin my reputation. Reminds me of segvec. So many scammers who prey on honest bitcoin dealers in the gift card/code world. How innocent you are, you honest bitcoin dealer, LOL. I'm sorry that i don't have all our conversations to show people who you really are, plus i'm not first who say that you have a shady character. I was so stupid that i continue to work with you after our first fight. I should stop there, when you retrieved your feedback and you didn't want to pay me anymore, because i was yelling at you and told you the naked true about yourself. And that time was no problem with any code and also was second time when you did that, first time, for one ppmc he paid me after 5 days and when i told him i will leave him scam accusation, instead of .75 rate he sent .60, as punishment that i threat him. |
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If it was sent back, must exist a paper. I did request that from 2 days ago. Show that paper and i will apologize and take* all the critics.
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