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So you say you're from China but you speak perfect english.
This sounds a lot like a certain other guy we all are quite familiar with.
Are you satoshi nakamato?
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Ryan: I joined your group previous week. None of your picks went up so far. But that would be OK so far as I understand sometimes we need to wait 2-3 weeks for those picks to go up. BUT, on Twitter you posted that you made 491% on Californium. ( https://twitter.com/Pumper_Ryan/status/592373572770856960) Maybe you made that profit but I'm pretty sure nobody else from the last week's group which received info 20.4 at cca 16.00 CET when the pump was already over. You advised to buy below 100K so I bought at 70K thinking it could be good price, then I bought at about 27K again thinking that I bought cheap. And the price now? It's literally dumped to ground (3700 SAT or so?). So I wonder when were you able to make that 491% profit because since 20.4. until now it kept declining quite sharply. As the DEV at CF is not active anymore, it's already clear that was just another "1 week" scam coin. So I have feeling you advised us to buy CF at the moment you were selling. Here is proof: 1) At cca 16.45 last monday 20.4. you sent info about picks  2) But at that time the CF pump was already over and from that moment the price has kept declining until today. This is telling me that you bought CF before that pump (maybe 12-24 hours earlier) and sold before you actually sent email to your group. Please send us screenshot when you bought CF and when you sold.  Regarding all other picks from last week, all are doing like shit btw (start, fc2, xai, nlg) I have lost on all of them so far, but I'm still giving it a little chance. If you don't pump them, maybe somebody else will pump one day in far future. If you say you pump the coins which you pick, why don't you pump them in the same week you pick them? What is the reason for waiting another 2-3 weeks, you wait for somebody else to pump them by chance, right? Or you just take 0.5 membership and basically do nothing else but market your strategies which work for you but not for the group. I will appreciate if you could argue on my post. If you delete it, it will be clear signal for me that you are just another clasical crypto scammer. This post is true for myself as well 2-3 weeks back, only there were no pump at all. Apparently you pay a weekly fee of .5BTC and invest at least 1BTC in the coins (so a total of 1.5BTC) but there is zero garuantee to actually earn anything that particular week. And the charts apparently don't actually show profit, only "movement", which could as well be very little sums. So that was $350 down the drain as far as I can tell. |
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As a previous member I'm still waiting to actually make some profit. Once (and if) I do, I might consider signing up for another week. Still holding my coins from a couple of weeks back as instructed, waiting for them to go up so I can sell without going minus.
Have to admit that before you explained over PM that this was not the case, I thought the "x% profit from coin y" posts reflected how much a member could actually have made a given week from that particular coin.
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I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.
9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:
1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.
Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.
Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.
So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.
I don't feel sympathy for your troubles at all. It's unbelievable that you were so naive that you actually thought Ryan's "coin gain" percentages are true and not fraud. Nobody could be so naive not to be suspicious those percentages are simple Rayn's fraud. Do you really want us to believe you thought Ryan earns those percentages and have to sell some 0.5 BTC "membership fee"? It's also obvious why there are no exit points in those "advises" he sells, only entry points. Reason is simple: Your entry points are his exit points, when he advises you to buy he actually sells to you for higher price coins he bought a week earlier while they were cheap. He can not tell you exit points because there are no exit points for you, only for him. Anyone who doesn't see these obvious facts deserves to be scammed by Ryan week by week. None requested! If you think sympathy was the reason for my post you're mistaken. I knew it was a gamble when I went into it. I was just curious and thought the odds of getting something in return *might* be better than at a roulette table. But I was wrong apparently. I don't beat myself up over it at all, but of course I'd rather inform other people about my experience than keep quiet about it. I'd also like to state I think Ryan's pretty darn convincing in what he does for many reason. I read through most of his website before joining and it contains a lot of seemingly good advice. He's definitely working hard on this "art". I think it's nice to have topics like this where people can be informed of the different tactics used. |
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If you want exit points, look at the previous coin pump levels. Some coins go up 50%, some go up 100%, some go up more than 200%. Simply put a third of your coins at YOUR_BUY_PRICE + 50%. Then at 100%. Then the rest at 200%. Or split them in 4 stacks and put the orders at 300%. You never know how high the coin goes, but this should recover all your investment.
Professional traders know exactly where to exit, and even then, they only put a percentage of their entry size, they leave some for even higher profits, with alarms to wake them up in the middle of the night...
I haven't been able to sell anything @ those levels yet, maybe in future. Time will tell, I guess. |
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I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.
9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:
1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.
Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.
Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.
So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.
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Hope to actually make some profit soon from the coins I participated in last week. To be able to sell them and go +, I mean.
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what a waste of time. waiting years for only $100 doesn't exactly make sense. single digits will never happen guys. keep dreaming.
The bet should be made with BTC and in a way where no one can "cheat" his way out of the loss. Makes more sense and makes it much more entertaining/interesting. If OP belives in BTC he should be betting .46 BTC today instead.  |
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Sent you a question over PM. Hope you can answer it, whether or not I'd be eligible.
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