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I don't care about that list. He must think himself or his list is some kind of big deal for everyone  |
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Recovery?
Only idiots and morons think recovery is possible at this time.
Btc has only gone down in value over the past 16 months+. It will continue to lose value all the way to big fat ZERO.
I am having a hard time believing what you have just said in here. Seriously? A decline in price doesn't mean that it will continue to go to zero, as you have just said. There are other possibilities that could happen along the way. Recovery may not be possible in the current times, yes, but it will soon pick up pace and continue moving upwards. No, more likely sub $100 or sub $30 |
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There's much to be learned from what's happened to Ripple. I, and others, were always warning of their centralized nature. Yet there were/are legions of supporters who wish to believe otherwise. I always got the sense that they just wanted to be a part of the next big thing. The other thing that always got to me was their incessant pandering to the Bitcoin community, here on the forums, and especially at conferences. Alas, their tech is nothing but an upgrade to the existing systems.
I would submit that the best way to support Bitcoin at this stage is to buy the coin itself. What Bitcoin needs is greater liquidity and with it will come greater stability and growth. It needs a much larger market cap to support all the companies that want to build on top of it. The merchant build out has been premature.
Once Bitcoin has established itself as a sound, reliable form of money, only then will it excel to the levels we all want it to achieve.
Do everyone allow this happen if: BITCOIN TOP-500: 1-50
1. BTC980,000*. Satoshi Nakamoto
2. BTC400,000*. HD Moore (AHA)
3. BTC400,000*. Dustin D. Trammell (AHA)
4. BTC400,000*. Tod Beardsley (AHA)
5. BTC350,000*. "Dread Pirate Roberts" a.k.a. "DPR"
6. BTC300,000. Roger Ver
7. BTC300,000*. "knightmb"
8. BTC200,000. Mark Karpeles
8.5 BTC182,592. "Loaded"
9. BTC174,000*. FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation, USA)
10. BTC119,000. AsicMiner Management Team of 3 (names?)
11. BTC110,000. Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss
12. BTC100,000. "klaus"
13. BTC100,000. "mezzomix"
14. BTC75,000. "artforz"
15. BTC70,000. Erik Voorhees
17. BTC30,000. "nakowa"
18. BTC30,000. Mircea Popescu
19. BTC30,000. "Goat"
20. BTC25,000. Chamath Palihapitiya
21. BTC25,000. Gavin Andresen
22. BTC20,000. Max Keiser
23. BTC20,000. "Theymos"
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Sorry but no, not gonna happen. It won't be called bitcoin anymore if these kind of shits really happen.
And there is no good/bad real/unreal bitcoin, they are all same tokens sha256 verified in main block or "fork" blocks. People("tough" bitcoiner kids on internet) might or might not find out who they are and they will be just fine on doing that as before.
Motive? Why would anyone lose money, an evil miner? They are going to double spend once the hash rate drops low enough because of the negative ROI of mining. Motive? Quick Money. You checked the bitpay 2014 report right? rich people and big company like to get USD and EUR much more than a bitcoin dying-cheaper-coin. You still haven't read the white paper have you. It's like arguing with a 5 year old about Santa clause. Welcome to my ignore list.  |
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Sorry but no, not gonna happen. It won't be called bitcoin anymore if these kind of shits really happen.
And there is no good/bad real/unreal bitcoin, they are all same tokens sha256 verified in main block or "fork" blocks. People("tough" bitcoiner kids on internet) might or might not find out who they are and they will be just fine on doing that as before.
Motive? Why would anyone lose money, an evil miner? They are going to double spend once the hash rate drops low enough because of the negative ROI of mining. Motive? Quick Money. You checked the bitpay 2014 report right? rich people and big company like to get USD and EUR much more than a bitcoin dying-cheaper-coin. |
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"They would get caught" get caught for what? since when stronger hash rate insert block first or double spend is illegal?
Are you talking about blockchain analyze or good/bad bitcoin filter shit again? this would kill bitcoin first you know?
I didn't say they would go to jail. But people are going to find out who minted the bad coin(s). It's not going to be good for their business and likely will end their operation. It is also true that depending on where they live it could be illegal. For example selling such coins may constitute fraud in the U.S. Although it may be unrealistic to assume the police will help. Personally I am against "colored" coins. However if we have a 51% attack I think we would have such a system within months. I assume nobody wants counterfeit bitcoins. Sorry but no, not gonna happen. It won't be called bitcoin anymore if these kind of shits really happen. And there is no good/bad real/unreal bitcoin, they are all same tokens sha256 verified in main block or "fork" blocks. People("tough" bitcoiner kids on internet) might or might not find out who they are and they will be just fine on doing that as before. |
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If I was the guy who sold my house for bitcoin, I would of sold the coin at that same day.
Selling maybe 80%, then keep the remaining 20% just to get the whole risk ratio down. Its better to reduce the risk to gain more.
Esp, if its a huge transaction like that.
but imagine if the bitcoin had raised back to 1200 dollars or even more. he would have won huge money How about 99% not going to happen but drops to $0? |
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Generally speaking the hash rate will drop very hard because of negative ROI of mining (let's say $60?), at that point the bitcoin blockchain network might stop processing any transaction.
Then no one can send or receive any bitcoins anymore.
That makes no sense to me at all. I was here when BTC was worth pennies and it worked fine. If mining becomes unprofitable then miners shut down some of their mines. This is how actual mining works also. It is also how this system was designed. You may want to read "the white paper" by Satoshi Nakamoto. It may clear up some of your confusion about how bitcoin works. the only difference i could see with the past, is a risk of 51% attack that can become more prominent, because now there are big farm that can control easily the network if the diff fall too much Now that is a reasoned criticism. I was surprised myself to see how quickly mining went to an industrial scale. It has really run ahead of adoption. I do think that there are powerful factors that work against a 51% attack however. The most important being self interest. A mega-mine that somehow gets a majority of the hash power could launch such an attack. But what would they gain? They would get caught, it would not go on for long and would, IMO, greatly hurt the price. In the end it is hard to see how they could profit from it. Especially having invested so much in infrastructure. "They would get caught" get caught for what? since when stronger hash rate insert block first or double spend is illegal? Are you talking about blockchain analyze or good/bad bitcoin filter shit again? this would kill bitcoin first you know? |
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The price hasn't gone up for 16 months, the only way it goes is down down lower
Then what the hell are you waiting for? Get a massive loan in bitcoins, sell them, wait for the price to go further down, buy back and repay the loan and enjoy the profit. That's why the price drops so hard, most bag holders are dumping, is this too difficult for you to understand? Reading comprehension issues? Are you? op is clearly telling you that most of bag holders are dumping, understand? no one is waiting for another bubble, most are dumping. loan or not, future swaps or exchanges are all dumping. That's how you get here at $200 and then $100 and then $30 and then $1 etc.. i know you are trolling but...a dump can't kill bitcoin, is just another price change, like many others, the fact that we dropped from 1200 to 200, does not mean that it will keep falling until $1 like you said, 1200 price was willy bot fault, so at worse it might drop at around 100, that was the price before the fake pump started Generally speaking the hash rate will drop very hard because of negative ROI of mining (let's say $60?), at that point the bitcoin blockchain network might stop processing any transaction.
Then no one can send or receive any bitcoins anymore.
That makes no sense to me at all. I was here when BTC was worth pennies and it worked fine. If mining becomes unprofitable then miners shut down some of their mines. This is how actual mining works also. It is also how this system was designed. You may want to read "the white paper" by Satoshi Nakamoto. It may clear up some of your confusion about how bitcoin works. the only difference i could see with the past, is a risk of 51% attack that can become more prominent, because now there are big farm that can control easily the network if the diff fall too much Very true. when the hash rate drops for bitcoin price collapse which is going to happen soon, 51% attack will come alone and end the bitcoin scheme |
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The price hasn't gone up for 16 months, the only way it goes is down down lower
Then what the hell are you waiting for? Get a massive loan in bitcoins, sell them, wait for the price to go further down, buy back and repay the loan and enjoy the profit. That's why the price drops so hard, most bag holders are dumping, is this too difficult for you to understand? Reading comprehension issues? Are you? op is clearly telling you that most of bag holders are dumping, understand? no one is waiting for another bubble, most are dumping. loan or not, future swaps or exchanges are all dumping. That's how you get here at $200 and then $100 and then $30 and then $1 etc.. i know you are trolling but...a dump can't kill bitcoin, is just another price change, like many others, the fact that we dropped from 1200 to 200, does not mean that it will keep falling until $1 like you said, 1200 price was willy bot fault, so at worse it might drop at around 100, that was the price before the fake pump started Oh so we are talking about around $100 is possible, this is not what bulltards like you promised in the last 16 months. I can see what's coming out next from your mouth soon, "at worse it might drop at around 50 and because of willy bot fault" huh? By the way, the early leaver or may be also the co-partner "Mark Karpeles" of this ponzi coin is the only one to blame on? what about it's promoters like you? |
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Then let's bet! $20 says bitcoin will be alive and in use 1 year from now. Since you know it has already failed your sure to win.
I thought not. If you won't put your money where your mouth is then why listen to you? In fact why are you here, to "warn us"? Ok batman thanks.  Reading comprehension issues? I put my sell orders from $300 to $230, why don't you start buying this dying coins from me before you give any fake moon promises here since last year? As usual the most confident pronouncements come from the least informed anonymous posters. "Bitcoin is a failure!" so says the brand new account. And they will be proved to be right as they always be. By the way, mod banned all bears accounts is the reason for these brand new accounts coming out, nothing special about it Then let's bet! $20 says bitcoin will be alive and in use 1 year from now. Since you know it has already failed your sure to win. well then it will never fail as it will be worth at least a few cents in the worst scenario. its impossible to loose for you then Generally speaking the hash rate will drop very hard because of negative ROI of mining (let's say $60?), at that point the bitcoin blockchain network might stop processing any transaction. Then no one can send or receive any bitcoins anymore. |
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What an original thread. Newbie account - check, Bitcoin is a scam/ponzi/etc-check, we should admit that bitcoin failed-check. Who makes these posts ? I mean do you seriously think what you can make us think hat bitcoin failed because of a price drop ? Next time try better than this.
The price is actually rising , what crash do you mean ? I think you misspelled skyrocket to moon with crash HA! go buy your cheaper and cheaper and worthless scamcoin  |
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The important question here is: But will you FUDsters come back in 1 0years and admit you where insanely wrong? or will you not come back to accept defeat? That's whats up.
I don't think bitcoin or this bitcoin forum can last that long, it make no sense to talk about thing that far anyway. I can also say a thing called shit-ponzi-scam-coin will worth a lot after 10 years, wait and you will see. |
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As usual the most confident pronouncements come from the least informed anonymous posters. "Bitcoin is a failure!" so says the brand new account. And they will be proved to be right as they always be. By the way, mod banned all bears accounts is the reason for these brand new accounts coming out, nothing special about it Then let's bet! $20 says bitcoin will be alive and in use 1 year from now. Since you know it has already failed your sure to win. well then it will never fail as it will be worth at least a few cents in the worst scenario. its impossible to loose for you then Generally speaking the hash rate will drop very hard because of negative ROI of mining (let's say $60?), at that point the bitcoin blockchain network might stop processing any transaction. Then no one can send or receive any bitcoins anymore. |
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As usual the most confident pronouncements come from the least informed anonymous posters. "Bitcoin is a failure!" so says the brand new account. And they will be proved to be right as they always be. By the way, mod banned all bears accounts is the reason for these brand new accounts coming out, nothing special about it |
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