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1  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 18, 2017, 03:58:50 PM
Just wanted to inform EVERYONE that miners S9, L3+, D3 in ready stock ARE sold in China for S9 less than 2000$ L3+ less than 3000$, D3 less than 7000$.

Thank you very much bitmain for letting us all buy 2 months ago what is everywhere on the market for same price today.

Bravo Bitmain and thank you for beeing so honnest and respectful for all your customers.
Do you have some proof info for that statement?

I'm not saying that that would surprise me much though.

What proof do you want? I am not selling I have just for a tour today at electronic market in China, and I saw many sign "S9, L3+ D3 so I asked.



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2  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 18, 2017, 02:45:12 PM
Just wanted to inform EVERYONE that miners S9, L3+, D3 in ready stock ARE sold in China for S9 less than 2000$ L3+ less than 3000$, D3 less than 7000$.

Thank you very much bitmain for letting us all buy 2 months ago what is everywhere on the market for same price today.

Bravo Bitmain and thank you for beeing so honnest and respectful for all your customers.

3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon official reponse to Bitmine bankruptcy - Let the evidence talk on: July 11, 2015, 05:37:52 AM
Asking Bitmin Why didn't you test IC's before?

They replied:  IC's come in batches of 5000 we cannot open them they are sealed, only foundries knows what they preduce.

Issu is that this grades from what Bitmin.ch said, they were not aware of that. Later only found out that the Reference No on the IC itself was a "code for grade"   A1....-6 was grade A A1...-3 was grade C etc ...

Makes it  impossible to test IC manually 1 by 1 knowing 1 miner 1T needed 40 IC's normal mode and 32 IC's Turbo mode. would have taked how long to test 50 000 IC 1 by 1.

4  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon official reponse to Bitmine bankruptcy - Let the evidence talk on: July 11, 2015, 05:00:21 AM
Clarifying:

First would like to  say Hi to "A" Innosilicon" and to G&C Bitmin.ch.  W

What am about to say will definitely get some ppls upset, even though am trying to stay neutral and anonymous, some ppls might have clue who is writing those lines.

The fact is that YES InnoSilicon indeed manufactured (well they didn't Taiwan foundry did ) grade A,B,C,D they HAVE INDEED provided on purpose grade "D" IC's to Bitmain.ch.

they sold grade "A" in China local market and were laughing about it saying "you want buy from Swiss guys go ahead we only gave them Grade "D" IC's all grade "A" were sold locally and at a extremely low price to a HUGH local reseller (which no need to state the name here but all know who am talking about)that kept the biggest part of the market.

They actually sold IC to this Chinese manufacturer about 2,3 times cheaper than they sold to Bitmain.ch.

They have "demonstrated " to Chinese customer how to test IC, saw demonstration in my own EYE.

Test Procedure:  "put multimeter on NEUTRAL, use one side  of the multimeter on the outside of the IC other end  inside the IC if the result is less than 0.4 IC is shit. etc ...

Mr "A"  is a clever guy my opinion is that they used Swiss money when they freshly graduated from University in Wuhan once they saw the potential and the advantage they had they decided "F.. it" we will make much more money if selling ourselves" cmon guys you know China "no pattern no NDA nothing works when it's not between 2 Chinese companies.

conclusion:  Swiss made a Hugh mistake ignoring China potential market for BTC back than, they thought EU, USA, AU all markets but didn't think about China.

InnoSilicon mistake: too young too greedy, could have given a share of the cake to the Swiss that originally put the money on the table (even though is true wasn't their own money was poor pre-order ppls money) on the other end Swiss for sure would have done EXACTLY same thing so no need feel sorry for them Smiley

1 question to Mr "A" Innosilicon:

BEFORE the Swiss Bitmin.ch came to you how much money did you have in your own bank account??? enough to launch NANOTECHNOLOGY 28NM in Taiwan foundries??? or you are saying you guys have a foundry capable of 28NM Tech in your back garden Smiley
all are wrong Bitmin.ch using other peoples money gambling with money that didn't belong to them.

Is funny in my opinion Bitmin are upset coz they played innocent ppls and they got played themselves Smiley

no one is honest 100% in this BTC business which is why it could profit so much money, it's a rule the fastest you make money the fastest you will loose it.

Conclusion: ALL of those manufacturer, developers, Foundries, didn't suffer nothing from all this,  those who really suffered are those poor guys that had some small savings aside like 2-3k$ decide will invest in BTC hoping they will make some money.  They are I suppose millions of poor ppls that lost a small amount in the eyes of InnoSilicon & Bitmin.ch but for them it may have meant a lot. all of those out there who used innocent ppls money, if you believe in luck what you all did to those poor ppls in the end will come back to you "What goes around, comes around"

Sorry for all those poor people out there still waiting for their Miners wherever they  bought them from  , KNC miners, Black Arrow (no comments Smiley, and those poor ppls that have used miners for 2 months than have it sitting in their garage coz it will never reach ROI and made them lose money instead.

Only small regards goes in my opinion to SpoonDoolies-Tech they always have been quite honest, but than again never did any deals with them.

that's all ... for now





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