I'm currently taking a break from Bitcoin things in general, so there haven't been any updates.

From what I understand, Moneypot's new owners haven't made breaking changes to the API so the script should still work.

MoneyPot aka its investors accept bets according to the kelly criterion, so by minimizing the house edge (minimizing the investors' odds) you're minimizing the amount of the bankroll that the investors are willing to stake. Obviously, with every bet, the investors are staking wager*multiplier while the player is staking only the wager.

In other words, if you minimize the house edge, then you're guaranteeing that nobody will ever be able to make bets with large wagers or high multipliers because you're directly limiting the max profit per bet.

So the "minimum house edge" is the one that lets your players make the bets that they want to make. This includes whales and, for example, players that don't want their bet to be rejected when they're trying to double their wager on their 5th consecutive martingale loss.

I hope that illuminates why there's no real answer to your question. Players want a low house edge, but they also need a house edge high enough to attract a counterparty to their bets (the investors).

You can get an idea of how house edge impacts max profit by playing with the "Payout Editor" I made on plinkopot.com.

> Can we make users register on our own (MySQL) database?

The MoneyPot login integration is pretty much standard OAuth: you redirect the user to MoneyPot, and MoneyPot redirects the user back to you with an `access_token`. You can then query MoneyPot's API (https://www.moneypot.com/api-docs#v1-public-get-token-info) to get that user's underlying `auth_id` (you can think of it as a unique user ID) and save it in your database for that user so you that can link users to their MoneyPot account in your system.

So, yes, you can have your own authentication/user system and save the aforementioned MoneyPot `auth_id` in your users table. Now a user should be able to "Login with MoneyPot" or enter their username/password on your site to log into their account.

> Also, it is possible to make it completely white label (basic users won't be able to see that it is related to Moneypot.com)?

Yes, you can do this and hide the fact that your site uses MoneyPot all together, but it would require a lot of custom programming.

Basically, you would have to run the casino on your own server (unlike Untitled-Dice which runs on the client aka browser). Users deposit Bitcoin into your own system, and you re-deposit it into your own MoneyPot account. When a user bets on your casino, you basically make the bet through your own MoneyPot account and then use the outcome response to update the user's balance in your own system.

Obviously, any features you don't use MoneyPot for are features you're going to build yourself, but the above scheme illustrates how you can use MoneyPot solely for its bankroll and its betting API if that's what you want to do.

> Basically, it's an affiliate program, right?

Yeah, you can think of the MoneyPot bet API as a system that simply rewards you for sending it bets that its investors are willing to take.

Yeah, ground-breaking content like "All you need is patience and a correct guess to get some big winnings on gambling."

Have you considered writing a book with this insider knowledge?

"One simple trick" to shill a referral link on bitcointalk.

Right now the script is limited by MoneyPot's global faucet which always pays out 2 bits on a 5 minute timer.

But great idea. I definitely want the payout and timer to eventually be configurable.

I think the most obvious next step is to allow you to deposit bits into your faucet app on MoneyPot to boost the configurable payout of your faucet.

Aside: I also realize I'm missing setup instructions in the OP, but you can follow the same steps listed for my dice script: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062680.0

Thanks for the support, guys.

Update: Added a custom.css file to hold your CSS customizations

One of the most common questions I get via PM is how to customize the look and feel of Untitled Dice.

So I've added a blank `custom.css` file to provide a more obvious place to do so: https://github.com/untitled-dice/untitled-dice.github.io/commit/55b7919ff0e3d909308be53f61e2d6c014fd846d

You'll need to learn a little bit of CSS to make meaningful changes to the theme, but it's a necessary skill for anyone that wants to dabble in web projects like this. Lots of good resources out there like https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS.

The reason I recommend isolating your customizations to a single `custom.css` file is so that it's much easier for you to merge in changes as I update Untitled Dice.

How to use a theme from https://bootswatch.com/

Also, I should point out that Untitled Dice is built with the popular Bootstrap v3 CSS framework and there are many free themes to be found for it online. For example, check out https://bootswatch.com/.

If you find a Bootstrap v3 theme that you like on bootswatch.com, you just need to make some simple modifications to Untitled Dice's `index.html` file.

For example, if you like the Darkly theme (demo: https://bootswatch.com/darkly/), click its Download button to get the URL to its CSS file (https://bootswatch.com/darkly/bootstrap.min.css) which you'll need to tell your Untitled Dice script to use.

To apply the Darkly theme to Untitled Dice, edit `index.html` from this:


to this:


Now your site will look like this:



Though you'll likely want to make additional tweaks which is what the `custom.css` file is for.

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As usual, drop me a PM if you have any questions or need any help.

I also lurk on MoneyPot's Slack (http://slack.moneypot.com/). My username on there is `dan` just like here.

Heh, I thought this thread was deleted but it was merely moved from the Project Development forum to the Micro Earnings forum.


I wrote the script. It's very minimal and easy for anyone to verify that it's clean even if you don't know Javascript.


The premise of faucets is that you attract people to your faucet by giving them free money, and then you monetize the page in some way to make money from this incentivized traffic.


Yeah, MoneyPot is just giving bits away, but it's peanuts to them. This script is a bit of a hack since any MoneyPot app gets access to MoneyPot's global faucet. However, it's not unethical because users need a MoneyPot account to claim this faucet. It's symbiotic.

Though I would like to eventually factor away the MoneyPot dependency and make this faucet script more general. For example, it could eventually become a faucet that gives you an additional 2 bit bonus per faucet claim if you're logged in to MoneyPot when you claim.

@Emerge: Thanks for the encouraging words!

My motivation behind my bitcointalk projects is that I like to build things, and MoneyPot solves the hard part of working with Bitcoin. I wrote this script in a day and Untitled Dice in a week.

My ultimate goal for this faucet script is for it to evolve into the ultimate faucet that anyone can host without running their own Bitcoin node or their own server. Being server-less and relying on free services for prohibiting abuse like Firebase (https://www.firebase.com/pricing.html) and MoneyPot, then I can come up with the cheapest faucet script so people actually have a shot at making a profit.

You made a new topic to show us someone betting on 1% chance and losing?

Scathing evidence there, OP.

What is it?

Untitled Faucet is a simple albeit silly script that drips money from MoneyPot's global faucet. Since it's just a few HTML/Javascript files, it can be hosted anywhere.

It comes with the caveat that MoneyPot's global faucet can only be claimed once per user per five minutes across all Moneypot apps, but I'd like to add features that ameliorate this issue.

Features

- Advert-ready: Comes with advetisement placeholders. Just swap them out with your own ad units whether they are referral links, affiliate banners, or some other monetization strategy.
- Responsively designed: Adapts to the user's device whether they are on a large desktop monitor, a tablet, or viewing your faucet on their smartphone.
- No minimum withdraw limit: Users can withdraw whether they've claimed 2 bits or 2,000,000 bits.
- No server needed: It's just a few HTML and Javascript, so you can host your faucet pretty much anywhere.
- Uses MoneyPot's funds: The faucet is funded by MoneyPot rather than your own pocket.
- Written with jQuery: Easy for noob hackers to customize/modify.


Usage:

Like Untitled Dice, just edit the "config" block at the top of the app.js file.

Check out my other projects:

- Untitled Dice: Run your own MoneyPot dice site without a server.

 

https://www.moneypot.com/provably-fair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2

Thanks for trying my script, though. Any other feedback?

RHavar has said that he wants to build an API for bets that cannot be provably fair like if you wanted to build a sports-betting casino on top of Moneypot.

At which point only the provably fair API would bet against the investors (the bankroll) and the unprovably fair API would not.

Thanks! Agreed, it's a much smoother experience now that your deposits are instantly acknowledged in the UI.

Experimental Update: Added an "All Bets" tab

Also started playing with a more visual interpretation of the roll and outcome:



I still have some more work to do like populating the All Bets tab when Untitled-Dice loads (done) and replicating the visual outcome in the My Bets tab.

I'll release the polished version in v0.0.9 soon.

I released v0.0.8 last night which adds the house edge to the configuration options at the top of app.js since it was such a common feature request. For example: https://github.com/untitled-dice/untitled-dice.github.io/issues/3

It's easy to underestimate the amount of work that goes into a bitcoin casino.

Even before you've started working on the game itself, you're mired in hard math, security, and engineering challenges like interacting with the bitcoin network. And no matter how well you do on the technical parts, attracting people to it is a gauntlet of its own. And if you're planning on being the house, you've got to inject enough capital into the bankroll to attract wagers.

Implementing both the server and the front-end website of a dice site involves two wildly different and challenging jobs. Unless you have the budget for some serious talent, you're not going to have an easy time finding someone that can do both.

Consider building your dice site on top of https://www.moneypot.com/ if you go the route of hiring a developer. It takes more than half of the work away. Since Moneypot handles the bitcoin interaction, bets, users, and bankroll for you, you and your developer can focus on your casino. It'll be cheaper, you'll launch much faster, and Moneypot eats all the risk.

Anyways, if you ever need help vetting a script or developer that you stumble across, feel free to PM me and I'll try to help.

v0.0.7 Release: Hooked up Moneypot's new socket/chat server

Moneypot just released a new socket-server which includes a better chat-server and pushes notifications when the user's unconfirmed and confirmed balances change.

This update doesn't change very many lines of code since the new chat-server has an almost identical API to the old one. If you want to check it out or if you want to implement this update on your own Untitled-Dice variant, you can see the changes here: https://github.com/untitled-dice/untitled-dice.github.io/commit/2e5a03fa0c683ab6f35fe7246ab538aa18f3cabd

What this changes about Untitled-Dice:

• Chat messages are now saved in Moneypot's database and not forgotten when the chat-server resets.
• Muted users are now saved in Moneypot's database and not forgotten when the chat-server resets.
• The UI now instantly updates to reflect the user's unconfirmed balance and when the user's deposit is confirmed and ready to spend.
  
  For example, as soon as the user makes a bitcoin deposit to your app, Untitled-Dice displays it:
  
  
  
  And once a block confirms the deposit, Untitled-Dice rolls it into the user's balance:
  
  
  
  In other words, users get instant peace of mind when they deposit into your app.
  
• Mods now actually have /mute and /unmute power. With the previous chat-server, mods were powerless.
• HH:MM timestamps are now displayed next to chat messages:

Luckybit is like the original SatoshiDice: an on-chain game waiting for an off-chain competitor to eat its lunch.

Use Moneypot to handle the Bitcoin interaction/bankroll/investment so that you can devote your time to polishing your casino.

Flappybit is a great start and you obviously have the tech skills to compete.

Untitled Dice consists of three files (app.js, index.html, style.css) and about a dozen dependency files found in the vendor and node_modules folders. The rest of those files are nonessential cruft managed by Git and its package manager.

1500+ files are in the ".git" directory that Git creates whenever you clone a project. This folder contains all of the revisions made to a project over time and is only necessary for development purposes, so avoid pushing it to your production server.

1000+ files are in the "node_modules" directory. Untitled Dice uses a package manager called NPM to maintain that folder of dependencies. Even though Untitled Dice only uses 9 files within that folder, the NPM tool populates it with all the development files that each dependency comes with. You can see the actual files that Untitled Dice depends on right here: https://github.com/untitled-dice/untitled-dice.github.io/blob/master/index.html

One quick solution would be to zip the untitled-dice directory, FTP it to your server, and then unzip it there.

I'll look into isolating Untitled Dice's dependencies to make life easier for this workflow.

Looks hot, guys. Love the neon glow and the sparks. Reminds me of Geometry Wars.

Hey, I'm keeping this thread updated with Untitled Dice updates. You can see the changelog in the OP which I maintain.

There haven't been any updates recently, but my next big update will include an autobet feature.

I'm also developing the groundwork right now that will allow Untitled Dice to automatically update when players deposit directly to the bitcoin address (QR code) shown in the "Deposit" button.