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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 29, 2015, 04:56:17 PM

Any sane person can see Colt 45 is likely a team member.


Who's vilifying now? Anyone not totally agreeing with you is disregarded as a team member. Anyone trying to actually discuss anything instead of just agreeing with you, maybe with a different opinion, you just claim are just part of the conspiracy, "in on it"... It's ridiculous. You are obviously entitled to any opinon you want, but so is everyone else.

2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 29, 2015, 03:39:31 PM

I would give you the advice to write all those guys some Mails and ask them if they still want to be associated with this. It seems that they don't have a clue of Crypto, never read the specifications or think about it.


These aren't cryptocurrency guys, they're blue chip, professional silicon valley types. I'm sure to them it was longer term proposition. Mass adoption or not. That's the bet. None of these types of investors were looking for a quick out at Bittrex. To sit and trade a few grand a day on Cryptsy, come on... They don't have time for that, or would never have invested in such a small idea with such minuscule upside. They must have seen the opportunity for mass adoption, taken a calculated risk and that's what their bet is. If neucoin gets millions of users and an upward growth curve of mainstream users and integrated with more and more games etc, if that happens they will make 100X or 1000X their money. If it doesn't they won't make anything. Daytrading coins at this level to make 10 grand become 20 isn't what guys like that do.



If it's not a Scam it doesn't make it better. But yes, you're right with "it's different"... ;-)


So we agree on "different" hahaha, fair enough Wink

But come on now, off course it's better! Paranoid fud about "scam scam scam" all over the place is just a little silly. It just doesn't make sense. No sane person believes it. And it clouds a more constructive debate about the actual project, inflation and user adoption etc all the stuff that's really interesting. Whether it works or it doesn't it's an interesting approach and it's targeting new segments. It isn't until we see more consumer applications and partnerships launched that we will know if it will fly or not.


But please explain me, what is the strategy with the inflation?

I think these sections of the foundations' strategic plan sum it up pretty well:

http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#strategic-distribution

http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#tech-amp-economics-overview
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 29, 2015, 01:59:56 PM

1. Imagine you are a big Investor. And you look at the distribution and you look at the inflation. There are about 100 mio Coins on the market right now  (some more because of staking). But 2.9 billions are staking behind the curtain and every two weeks there is a 100%-inflation out of public perspective (100 Mio). Why the hell should you throw just 1 BTC at this even if you have 10k BTC?


A lot of crowdsale buyers wanted, and still want to, cash out while they can make a profit. As long as the price is higher than the crowdsale price that's only natural. The long game is in staking and seeing if neucoin delivers on acquiring huge user numbers. That's really what this is all about. Will they succeed at mass adoption or not?


2. Imagine you run a company: Why the hell should you implement a coin with this (without any) distribution and such an inflation?


There is actually a really smart plan for distribution on Neucoin.org. Very growth driven. The coins aren't just going to sit at the foundations, they will be distributed to consumers, game developers, marketing partners, social media, etc. Check out the plan, it's all there.


3. Imagine you are a Developer for games: Why the hell should you damage you credibility and the potential of your product with a project like this?

Because if you look beyond the fud on this thread - see who's involved, see who invested in the angel round, their expertise and their rolodexes, and not the least - their different apprioach to all this - I think a lot of game developers will. 



This project has absolutely no chance. It has no chance as a Scam and it has no chance as a legit project.


Dude, it's simply not a scam. Period. That's just what trolls around here think it's fun to keep saying. There's a lot of fud and paranoia here but go read up on Neucoin.org, check out the online wallet... to any normal, sane person, it simply isn't a scam.

Bad idea? Maybe. But for sure not a scam. Personally I think it's a good idea. It's different. They're trying to reach millions of consumers in new ways. Completely different ways than earlier coins. Games, social, etc. Getting mainstream users to try it and rewarding third party companies that help make the ecosystem useful. The distribution and inflation is part of that strategy and of course should be factored into the price. But it's not really about the price right now - it's about acquiring a shitload of users. If they succeed it will be worth a lot. If the don't succeed it won't. Only time will tell. Simple as that.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 29, 2015, 11:52:59 AM
Actually Neucoin basic value 0.00004 BTC.

Basic value right now on Bittrex



Yes it is bottom we are lucky to buy if we have bitcoins

As long as the price is over the crowdsale price, meaning early buyers can make a good profit (still 10-25% on their investment in just a few months), there will naturally be a lot of sale pressure from crowdsale buyers selling parts of their holdings, selling all and buying it back later, or even just plain selling and making a profit. Sit tight. This is about mainstream user adoption and utility, and growth will come from PoS and steady organic growth in user numbers. Traders can trade all they want - the real value of this thing is in the games, the social media, the mainstream user adoption. If that comes neucoin will have a ton of value. If it doesn't it come, the it won't. Just sit tight.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 26, 2015, 09:40:04 PM

But NEU needs to get on some real exchanges beside bittrex & cryptsy...

Agree, Poloniex. And Chinese exchanges! China super important.

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 23, 2015, 10:34:51 PM

BigVern
@cryptsy

on twitter:

Neucoin (NEU) open for deposits.
Market opens Friday


https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/646794594663821312

Yes, sir!

7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 21, 2015, 12:25:40 PM
Nah, the growth accounts are basically just extremely user friendly mining pools - a way to get mainstream users to do something they would never do otherwise. It's supposed to be fun and easy and fit the mobile gaming crowd. part of neocoin's user adoption strategy.

Anyone who's into mining can mine neucoin like any other coin.

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-pos-award-rates/1479
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 21, 2015, 07:58:37 AM

Anyone who wants to (and knows how to) can mine on their own and earn full PoS rewards. That's for the crypto pros who want to maximize.

Growth accounts are just for consumers who would never get involved with client mining anyways. That's for the mobile game playing masses who just want plug and play.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 19, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
The client doesn't matter.  
Consumers will never download a client. Never, ever, ever. The standard qt client is for pro miners only - and completely irrelevant for normal users.
I don't agree. Many users and especially security sensitive users and users possessing a big amount of funds favor local wallets. That's just a fact.

And it's not just an online wallet, it's an online mining app too. Look again at the "mining" interface I posted a screenshot of.


Using your own argumentation: Why would Joe Average care about mining?


Joe doesn't care about mining, but he cares about the growth of his account without doing much (few clicks and you are growing). That's one of the reason I invested in Neucoin.

super easy is super important. NEU is targeting mobile games and social media. not crypto.

10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 19, 2015, 01:05:23 PM
Cryptsy

BTER

BTC-e

Poloniex

Bittrex

Bleutrade



it's a good list. I use cryptsy and I like it. but probably important to have china covered as well.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 17, 2015, 11:54:27 AM
2. Game Developers/Publishers: 100 - 200 million NeuCoins
Integrating NeuCoin in online/mobile games is a top priority, from both a user acquisition and consumer utility perspective. The NeuCoin Utility Foundation already has two prototype games in development based on popular, generic games that will demonstrate how NeuCoin can be incorporated into game experiences - giving out free NeuCoins as a reward for playing, winning, leveling up, etc. Using the prototype games as pilots, the NeuCoin Utility Foundation intends to partner with leading game publishers with large existing user bases to integrate NeuCoin.

i also like the focus on mobile gaming first, is a great idea... if they can pull it off it is a huge opportunity. everyone is playing games on their phone and so many games already have virtual tokens - so i think people would be ready.

giving NEU to game developers to integrate is great. maybe they should allocate even more to that.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official on: September 17, 2015, 09:15:31 AM
What i like about the distribution plan is that new adopters who wants NEU for free should feel like they have earned it, instead of feeling like - I got it for free and dump it for nothing.
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