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1  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 10:17:28 PM
Hello, to the funcaptcha can it change you the number of operations to solve? If so, where?
in funcaptcha.php?

Hi Misterbit,

You can change to the "always enhanced" security option so FunCaptcha always shows three challenges. See how to do it here:
http://support.funcaptcha.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1760933-what-is-%E2%80%9Csecurity-level%E2%80%9D-in-the-options-

Kind regards,
Matt
2  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: October 09, 2015, 12:12:47 AM
I had an attack of ip's from Ukraine guess exploiting a vulnerability on FunCaptcha. FunCaptcha disabling stopped emptying the faucet.

My error_log have this line

[08-Oct-2015 00:12:11 UTC] PHP Notice:  Undefined index: HTTP_USER_AGENT in /libs/funcaptcha.php on line 88

Anyone know anything about this?

Thanks!

Hi Alex48,

How do you know it is a guess exploit? Did you see the attacker getting FunCaptcha wrong more often than right?

You are correct that at default settings, an attacker using a lot of clean IPs (which have no bad record of failing FunCaptcha and are not on the StopForumSpam list) can do a guessing attack which solves FC 1/8th of the time. With massive quantities against a sensitive faucet, that can be significant. You can address this by going to your FunCaptcha dashboard and setting your security to "Always enhanced". This means that the best results a guessing attack can get is 1/512. Or, if you tolerate the guessing attack for a little while, the pool of clean IPs will become tainted and guessing will no longer work well.

As an identity (basically IP, though we are always improving this to extend beyond IP) builds up a poor record of solving FunCaptcha (which random guessing will do), the number of required FunCaptcha challenges increases, making guessing highly impractical. If needed, we can strengthen this further-- just contact us to arrange it. You can see more here:
http://support.funcaptcha.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1760933-what-is-%E2%80%9Csecurity-level%E2%80%9D-in-the-options-
http://support.funcaptcha.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1838700-why-do-i-sometimes-need-to-do-more-or-fewer-game-challenges-

I'm sorry to hear this affected your faucet and with this explanation, I hope you switch back to FunCaptcha. We will keep making it stronger all the time-- and we are literally the only company in the world entirely and actively dedicated to making the best CAPTCHA.

Kind regards,
Matt
COO, FunCaptcha
3  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Flaw In FunCaptcha System??? on: October 03, 2015, 07:20:56 AM
I thought Funcaptcha is the best option against bots, but today I found a major flaw in Funcaptcha. In a normal Funcaptcha a user has to solve two or three images (moving the woman to center or rotating it to correct position) to claim. An hour ago I visited a faucet with Funcaptcha, I accidentally clicked the claim button just after solving one image and the claim was credited. I tried this on a couple of more faucets and the same result.

So basically you just need to solve 1 Funcaptcha image to claim

I visited a faucet with advanced Funcaptcha option (6 images to solve), but on this faucet I was not able to claim after solving one image which is good.

I believe Funcaptcha does prevent bot abuse, but solving just one image might make it a bit vulnerable.

Opting for advanced option might be annoying to users. Solving three images is more than enough, but Funcaptcha developers have to make sure the captcha is not validated till three images are confirmed

What you experienced was FC's setting in which you can solve just one image to pass. You must have at one point seen FunCaptcha with three challenges, then solved it, which improved your user history enough for FC to give you just one challenge the next time.


Thanks a lot for the explanation  Smiley...All doubts cleared Grin

Always glad to talk about it  Grin
4  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Flaw In FunCaptcha System??? on: October 02, 2015, 10:53:41 PM
I thought Funcaptcha is the best option against bots, but today I found a major flaw in Funcaptcha. In a normal Funcaptcha a user has to solve two or three images (moving the woman to center or rotating it to correct position) to claim. An hour ago I visited a faucet with Funcaptcha, I accidentally clicked the claim button just after solving one image and the claim was credited. I tried this on a couple of more faucets and the same result.

So basically you just need to solve 1 Funcaptcha image to claim

I visited a faucet with advanced Funcaptcha option (6 images to solve), but on this faucet I was not able to claim after solving one image which is good.

I believe Funcaptcha does prevent bot abuse, but solving just one image might make it a bit vulnerable.

Opting for advanced option might be annoying to users. Solving three images is more than enough, but Funcaptcha developers have to make sure the captcha is not validated till three images are confirmed

Hi krishnapramod,

The short answer is that FunCaptcha can vary from 1 to 5 challenges depending on the settings chosen by the website (the faucet) and the past history of the user. So, sometimes you have to pick the woman once, sometimes three times, sometimes five times before you can claim. When you've done enough challenges, the footer under FunCaptcha tells you that you're done. More is explained here:
http://support.funcaptcha.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1838700-why-do-i-sometimes-need-to-do-more-or-fewer-game-challenges-

A site can pick the "always enhanced" setting in their FunCaptcha dashboard to make sure the number of challenges never falls below 3. You also can contact us for even more advanced settings if you think you see bots getting through. We give a wide range of settings which at one extreme are always very easy for all users to complete fast, and at the other extreme are the very strongest protection against bots. We adjust it automatically for a site, but the site can request a different setting.

What you experienced was FC's setting in which you can solve just one image to pass. You must have at one point seen FunCaptcha with three challenges, then solved it, which improved your user history enough for FC to give you just one challenge the next time.

To experiment with this, come to https://www.funcaptcha.com/demo/ and try getting FC right a few times in a row, then wrong a few times in a row. You will see how the number of challenges goes as low as one or as high as five.

Last point: if FunCaptcha asks you to rotate a LOGO the right way up, instead of an animal, or to pick "your favourite", it does not matter how you answer. This is done on purpose for a few obscure reasons and never is counted as one of the challenges.

I hope this helps, and thanks for starting the discussion. Smiley

Matt
FunCaptcha creator
5  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: September 22, 2015, 11:14:19 PM
they are connected to AWS amazon vpn and half of the servers were off line for a night

That's right Gifted, AWS gave everyone a really bad night, including Netflix, Tinder, Amazon, and IMDb... we actually weathered it better than most as we manually swapped our traffic away from US-EAST, which caused some slowness but still let us keep serving up FunCaptcha. Here's an article on the outage: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/20/aws_database_outage/

It's very rare for AWS to fail so badly. Even so we are not satisfied and are looking for ways to "fail over" much faster and more gracefully. We know we need to be up and running 24/7 and unlike Netflix or Tinder, if we go down, important things can't get done. Wink
6  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: September 21, 2015, 12:40:09 AM
Also, to anyone who thinks they can stop these botters.. it is not possible.
Anything a human can do, a computer can do.

A script can be written to recognize images or patterns in any fashion and solve captchas.

...

Only thing I can say is, bots aren't going away unfortunately. :/
We'll all just have to adapt as best we can to prevent being scammed.

Don't give up hope NightHavoc! We are the only company in the world totally dedicated to stopping bots with a CAPTCHA that really works and does not totally annoy its users. Look for "FunCaptcha" in this thread and all over the web for testimonials about how we are really stopping the problem.

We know it's an endless war and we are always staying ahead of the bots.. let us know how we are doing. We can adjust FC to various security levels to trade off ease of use vs. security.
7  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: September 20, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
What is the problem whit FUNCAPTCHA mi sites are OFF LINE because have problems whit FUNCAPTCHA?

"funcaptcha.com 403 Forbidden Error Page

If you arrived here due to a search or clicking on a link click your Browser's back button to return to the previous page. Thank you.

IP Address: 172.31.**.**"

Hi all,

We apologize for the interruption in FunCaptcha service. Last night our server provider, Amazon Web Services, had a major outage. More information can be seen at http://status.aws.amazon.com/ and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/20/aws_database_outage/. AWS provides services to the biggest sites in the world, including Amazon.com. It’s very rare for them to have this kind of outage, and they are the best in the world. Unfortunately last night was an exception. Our 24×7 admin team, working at all hours, immediately adapted to the outage but it created service interruptions. We restored full services as quickly as possible and now all is well.

We are sorry for the loss to both faucet webmasters and their customers. We are going to make changes and work with Amazon to better “bulletproof” FunCaptcha services.

More information about our service can be found at https://twitter.com/FunCaptchaStat/ as it happens.

We know you depend on FunCaptcha to be available 24×7 and we are not satisfied with anything less than perfect service. We will continue to work to make things better. Please let us know how we are doing.

Kind regards,
Matt
8  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: September 19, 2015, 02:40:23 AM
@FunCaptchaMatt

As a user of faucets, I would like to know why the captcha vanishes(it tries to load) but changes to audio only?

All my browsers it happens, Chrome, Firefox, Maxthon, even the dreaded IE

Also why do the audio attempts change from five answers to ten numerical answers, from one day to the next.

Hi Racey,

FunCaptcha automatically falls back to simpler modes (including audio) if it's not confident it will run well on your configuration. But we fully support Chrome/Firefox/IE etc so there must be something else interfering. I have alerted customer support to look out for your report. Can you please just paste what you said into an email to support@funcaptcha.com? They will get back to you with any help you need. Please send along screenshots and details of your configuration. We'd really appreciate it because we want to work perfectly on every config.

As for five vs ten numerical answers, that is because the logic of the 3rd party service we use for audio CAPTCHA has varying levels of "suspicion" about your activity. I know the harder version is way too hard to do! The real solution is to figure out why you can't get the visual FunCaptcha working, since that's very easy and quick to do.
9  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: September 19, 2015, 02:33:49 AM
@FunCaptchaMatt I have a problem:

I have created an account at Funcaptcha to install your captcha service in my faucets: www.satoshisfaucet.com and www.valley-bitcoin.com (under faucetbox script), and this is what I did:

1. Created the account
2. Add the domain and selected the PHP plugin
3. Copy the public and private keys and paste them in the captcha menu of faucetbox admin panel and enabled funcaptca
4. In chrome the funcaptcha loads perfectly, but when visiting the faucets in mozilla or opera it goes blank, with no content (the captcha)... do i have to modify the index code too? I thought it was just like I did with recaptcha (just putting the private and public keys) in the faucetbox admin panel, how can I have fun captcha working on my sites in all browsers?

Mozilla


Chrome


For now I have just disabled funcaptcha and enabled recaptcha as I don't like losing users on the mozilla side...

Hi uchijashisui,

We definitely do work in Mozilla and Opera so we can help you get FunCaptcha running there. I have alerted customer support to look out for your report. Can you please just paste what you said into an email to support@funcaptcha.com? They will get back to you with any help you need.
10  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: September 17, 2015, 11:39:46 PM
When are you going to think about adding new puzzles? The one with the woman and the man is really creepy.

Hi Ragi,

Sorry they are a bit creepy-- they are computer-generated for security reasons and as we know, the "uncanny valley" can be a bit weird. We are working on new ones with different tradeoffs of security vs creepiness.

Meanwhile, a site can contact us with their details (URL or public key), and ask for their FunCaptcha to be customized so it shows one particular game by default-- in this case you'd want them to show the "roll the ball" puzzle.

Also, if you click the little refresh button in the footer of FunCaptcha it reloads with a different game (unless the site owner has disabled that).

Hope this helps, and thanks for the feedback.
11  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: September 17, 2015, 03:48:15 AM
That's are statistics from one of my faucets:



As you can see I didn't fill up faucet from 3rd of August (because of bots). Then 24th of August i fill up faucet account. In third day (27 of Aug) there was claims for 0.02445340 and in this moment i switch ReCaptcha to FunCaptcha. It goes down to around 0.001 per day. Second screen show you what happen in this hour.. Don't need to comment..

Hi all-- I am the creator of FunCaptcha. I really appreciate the discussion of how well it is working... especially that quote above that shows how bots responded when you switched. We try to add to our "case studies" of great user stories like this. FaucetWorld, please contact us or reply here to let me know if it's OK to use your quote and your chart to show people how well FunCaptcha works.

Also, if you have any problems, I will try to answer them here. But your best first stop is our support page (click the ? mark in the footer of FC). There are good FAQs there and a way to submit a support request.

If you like videos, search for us on YouTube. I'd link them here but don't want an algorithm to falsely accuse me of being a spammer. Wink

Hopefully subscribing to posts here will work, and I will try to answer back soon if anything comes up. Meanwhile, enjoy FunCaptcha. Keep in mind we offer a few different security levels that trade off bot-proof vs usability, so if you do suspect bots getting through, contact us so we can work together on your settings.
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