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1  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Where does an empty-handed fellow go nowadays? on: March 12, 2013, 07:36:46 AM
Buy BTC that you can afford to lose. Hold them. If you can take a little bit of risk put them into a investment fund.
How does a btc investment fund work?
2  Bitcoin / Mining / Where does an empty-handed fellow go nowadays? on: March 12, 2013, 07:29:58 AM
So many beautiful opportunities have been missed since the beginning of Bitcoin.
So where do I go from here? I don't own any mining hardware because I was hesitant.
Should I try to buy an ASIC? If so, what kind? It seems to me that orders are taking forever to ship, and half of them have turned out to be scams anyway.
Should I just buy BTC and wait for the price to go up?
Should I go for an alt-coin?

sgjkdhshdknshuskdnfhl.

/discuss
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Where to order ASIICS? on: March 12, 2013, 07:16:45 AM
Hey, so, Inaba... *cough*
I'll take that Minirig if he doesn't want it.
Limo won't be needed.
thx bb <3
4  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 16, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
Could've just said supply and demand Shocked
anyway, it's around 64 days? how do you guys know?
So they're shipping in two weeks?
By this I mean - if I ordered a Single right now, when would it come?

You? No. 

However my Single will be arriving in ~2 weeks.  How much do you want to spend for one?
No? Are they not accepting new orders?
And oh, I'm sure I can fundraise to go past the 599 if needed - why?
5  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 16, 2012, 09:06:51 PM
Econ 101  Grin

Hm?
6  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 16, 2012, 09:01:11 PM
Around 64 days at present.
Jesus! Why?
7  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 16, 2012, 08:58:01 PM
So they're shipping in two weeks?
By this I mean - if I ordered a Single right now, when would it come?
8  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 16, 2012, 08:50:33 PM
So they're shipping in two weeks?
9  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Efficient rig? For fundraising. on: May 15, 2012, 08:28:56 PM
Which of these is the most profitable?
Here is a quick comparison of various offerings that DiabloD3 whipped up. You may wish to do some research on each device before potentially getting stuck with something you don't want or like for some reason;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg887606#msg887606

BFL's mini-rig looks to be the most profitable and efficient of the FPGA options, but hasn't shipped yet. The X6500 is the most efficient, but is a bit expensive per mhash/s so has a longer payback period as well as limited availability. If you get in on the cheap pre-order price, the Enterpoint quads are a good bet, and they should ship within a few weeks, but don't have final software support (yet). The BFL Single is the least efficient outside of GPU mining, but also relatively cheap and fast.

Various ASIC based solutions have not shipped yet, and command a premium because of their novelty and efficiency. Reference Largecoin, and possibly SHAlab.
The BFL single looks like my best bet. Where do I get them, and what setup do they require?
10  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Efficient rig? For fundraising. on: May 15, 2012, 02:30:25 PM
Since it is a club, go for donations.  If you don't, you will probably only break even.  Try to get anything you can donated that you do not have, PS, MB, CPU, RAM and especially GPU.  Even if you get a crummy video card donated, as long as it is 5830 or better it should be worth it. 

If you have to pay for all of the parts other then what you have listed, you may not make any money at all, or not within half a year or more.


half a year? that's not a problem - I'm gonna be at this school for another three years and by then I'll have found another geek to manage it Tongue
What kind of club? If I could get my robotics team to do that that'd be sweet Cheesy
well, 2 - my robotics team and the Eco Club.
Hey.
So I run a club at my school. We were thinking about making a dedicated mining rig here to mine for some Bitcoins to raise money. What parts would you guys recommend for a low-power rig? We'd like to have a decent hashrate to raise money for the club.
We have some extra cases and hard drives, but I need recommendations on mobo and gpu (or fpga I guess Shocked). and cpu. and power supply.
Money isn't much of an issue since the club has money behind it.
If all you are worried about is efficiency, get a pocket-sized TP-link router and use it to mine with FPGA devices. Your best bet at this point is probably the Enterpoint quad boards, if you can get in on a pre-order. Otherwise, you could place a custom bulk order for X6500s. If you have a lot of cash to blow, go with the Ztex quads.
Which of these is the most profitable?
11  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Efficient rig? For fundraising. on: May 14, 2012, 11:58:50 PM
Hey.
So I run a club at my school. We were thinking about making a dedicated mining rig here to mine for some Bitcoins to raise money. What parts would you guys recommend for a low-power rig? We'd like to have a decent hashrate to raise money for the club.
We have some extra cases and hard drives, but I need recommendations on mobo and gpu (or fpga I guess Shocked). and cpu. and power supply.
Money isn't much of an issue since the club has money behind it.
12  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Power supplies, mobos, and ram. (oh my!) Oh, and cooling... on: May 14, 2012, 10:33:13 PM
What are FPGAs? I've heard of them but never known what they do

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA_Devices

Usually, the FPGA boards are attached to host computer via USB/COM port.

Miner software is available for many FPGA boards, so you have a choice.

If you're still interested in GPUs, I have three 7970s that I'd sell at discount  Wink
So what are the benefits to FPGA's?

Lower power consumption = less heat.

They are expensive comparing with GPUs.  BFL  (BitForce) is an exception, but they have "unknown delivery dates".  6 weeks, became 6 months for some.
GPUs are readily available. So it is a plus.
[/quote]Are they worth it?
And how many can I connect to one mobo?
And do they require any special setup?
13  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Power supplies, mobos, and ram. (oh my!) Oh, and cooling... on: May 14, 2012, 09:57:45 PM
What are FPGAs? I've heard of them but never known what they do

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA_Devices

Usually, the FPGA boards are attached to host computer via USB/COM port.

Miner software is available for many FPGA boards, so you have a choice.

If you're still interested in GPUs, I have three 7970s that I'd sell at discount  Wink
[/quote]So what are the benefits to FPGA's?
14  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Power supplies, mobos, and ram. (oh my!) Oh, and cooling... on: May 14, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
If I were you, I'd plan for how are you going to remove the heat from the room.

If is one thing to blow a fan on your cards to move air, but when the room gets warmer
the whole cooling setup becomes less effective as ambient temperature raises.

Hint: Don't think A/C is a good idea.  You don't want to use energy to heat air and use energy to cool air.



I asked that in the OP. So you're saying I should use something like liquid cooling?
I live in Los Angeles, so I can't just blow in cool air from outside.

Water cooling is expensive.  If you are willing to spend $$$, go for it.  You have to worry about pump failures, RT monitoring of pressures etc.
Lots of headache, if you ask me.

Better to position the shelf in the coldest room in your house (lots of ground/soil as heat sink) and run duct vents to the outside.
Ideal, natural setup would be a vegetables cellar, like they used to do in the old days.  If you have access to a backhoe....

I think GPU mining is very inefficient way to mine. FPGA is much better.  But if you have your mind set on GPUs, design your setup to
remove the heat.  If you put multiple rigs each consuming 800W, you can add up all the wattage and that will be your heat that you have to worry about.
Not to mention the wiring.  You can probably run 2 rigs on your 15A circuit, with three, you'll be tripping the breaker.

If I were you, I would stay away from GPUs, unless of course you already invested in the hardware.



What are FPGAs? I've heard of them but never known what they do
15  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Power supplies, mobos, and ram. (oh my!) Oh, and cooling... on: May 14, 2012, 08:54:31 PM
If I were you, I'd plan for how are you going to remove the heat from the room.

If is one thing to blow a fan on your cards to move air, but when the room gets warmer
the whole cooling setup becomes less effective as ambient temperature raises.

Hint: Don't think A/C is a good idea.  You don't want to use energy to heat air and use energy to cool air.



I asked that in the OP. So you're saying I should use something like liquid cooling?
I live in Los Angeles, so I can't just blow in cool air from outside.
16  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: May 14, 2012, 06:43:40 AM
750W...it says right on them  Tongue
...multiple times Tongue
mother of god, I'm an idiot
well, that works
17  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Power supplies, mobos, and ram. (oh my!) Oh, and cooling... on: May 14, 2012, 06:41:37 AM
He's got 2 PSUs on each shelf. One per system.
Whoops.
That's also when I saw the big 750 written on the side.
Anyway, my other questions remain. What motherboard is recommended, and will 1 gig of ram work for each?
18  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Power supplies, mobos, and ram. (oh my!) Oh, and cooling... on: May 14, 2012, 03:24:30 AM
Hey.
I want to run multiple rigs with 4 Radeon 5850's each.
I'm building a large shelf with shelves of 2 setups on each shelf. I want to hook together each shelf to only one power supply, like so:

How much power would I need for each shelf?

Also, what motherboard would you guys recommend for such a setup?

Also, would 1 gig of ram be fine for each setup?

ALSO, should I just attach fans for each computer, or attach large fans to each shelf?
19  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: May 14, 2012, 03:15:22 AM


4 x 5870
8 x 5850
4 x 5830
---------
6.02 GH/s
2.55 kWh
Holy shit, that's beautiful. How many watts are those power supplies? And what are the mobos?
20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: May 14, 2012, 01:30:51 AM
I'd like to be whitelisted.
I know quite a bit about bitcoins. I witnessed the rise of Bitcoins, and was interested in doing something but never got around to it. My friend and I are in the process of building a rig in his garage. It's going to have a bunch of computers hooked up with Bitcoin and a VNC client so we can control them from a hub computer.
I want to be whitelisted because I have a few questions about the physical components of rigs, along with management systems and pooling.
As I'm sure you can tell, I'm not a nine-year-old-troll with schizophrenia. I can type maturely, and communicate without being a jackass.
So yeah.
Cool.
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