I don't agree here. Gulden.zone achieved quite a lot in that amount of time. Brought in quite some new users by it's very good organized google search. Database was growing in the latter stages quite fast. Also a lot of unique visitors daily. Anyway, a new forum won't solve the problem which is there and will also stay there. We should have one organized forum. Call me the whiner again. I don't mind, good luck building a new one.

How come You don't become tired of yourself? If this is not the coin for you, you should go to the next one. Noone really cares what you say. All your predictions so far have been full of shit.

Meaning always say yes and amen? Everything is all good?

 it isn't even a group.. They are all individual people who have interest in NLG. It's not a small part group of people that don't like how things are going. Had multiple PM's about it. Most people would want gulden.zone come back. I believe that the way some things are going is really stupid and also really unheard of. Look at activity on the forum. Dont give me that bullshit, we are on slack. Talk over there.

No people want an open and transparent forum where they can look back at things. Frais offered to make one forum of both that does work for everyone. So all people would be happy. Now he got denied again like many times before and that even started before you were here.

How come the same people get denied over and over again. I believe it's a personal matter. Maybe even pride.

I made a new account to back on Frais.

He stated that he wanted one forum for the whole community, instead of two. He, me and some other people tried talking to Rijk about this, but the devteam didn't want anything to do with it. If you ask me and if the devteam really cared about Frais his specialty (like some others who moved to the background) than they would have taken his offer to make one better forum than what community.gulden.com is so that there would be one place where people could have an open and clear chat with the community.

Frais is specialized in advertising, making him a really good asset to the community. Only thing he got, was denied. But the real question is why? Since gulden.zone is down a lot of the community got more or less on the background. I will state some names which are real assets to Gulden, but get constantly denied. For what?? Frais, LTEX, Biomike and some others. If you think it through it is kinda retarted that the dev-team didn't gave any trust in these people. Is it because they are loaded with Gulden? Or any other reason.

We have two camps here, which is so obvious. If they just gave some trust in these people, you'll see that things will even go bigger, greater. Not for themselves, but because they believe in Gulden.

@bluestreet I even offered to take over the forum, but that will not solve the problem. Gulden should have one community forum which is good accessible for everyone. Young and old and not so high tech looking than the forum there is now.

Last thing I've said about this. I'll be sitting on my shitload of Guldens for a while and see how it turns out.