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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here? on: September 14, 2012, 11:49:43 PM
i sure hope these count as posts because I need to contact the *** at torwallet.net because they have 200+ of my btc locked up in their torwallet in a "Database Error!" on their webpage online wallet!!!!  With no one answering emails or anything... am I just screwed out of my 2k?!!!

I hope they fix their website!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm afraid you have been scammed, my friend.

He has not been scammed.

Please reply to our email with the information requested so we can get this resolved.
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: hello! new to this site on: September 14, 2012, 11:47:27 PM
We have replied to your email. Please provide the information requested and we will get this resolved asap.
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: September 14, 2012, 11:44:23 PM
Hi,

I'd like to request to be able to post as I've been using bitcoins for a while, and would like to be a part of the community.

I've used torwallet.net and they have taken 200+ bitcoins from me in one of their online wallets and I would like to try to contact them but they do not seem to reply to their email and they have no real information in their DNS on the website.

I'm hoping that someone will be able to help as that is alot of bitcoins to loose!

thanks!

Please check your email, we have replied and want to get this resolved.

For everyone else:
This is related to a database error we are experiencing.
4  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: July 14, 2012, 11:22:32 PM
We have at no point ever operated an exit node. We may or may not be operating a relay. Our system keeps no records of deposits or withdraws, only a balance, even if someone gained access to our hidden server there is no way they could link past deposits and withdraws, only ones in the future.
5  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: July 12, 2012, 07:09:29 PM
We are back online. The server was off and did not turn itself back on after the UPS battery drained.
6  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: July 12, 2012, 04:31:33 PM
We are experiencing some issues with our tor server at the moment. Its not responding to its public IP address. There has been some rough weather in the area and a power outage. We believe that the UPS on the server may have ran dead before the power came back. One of us has to physically drive out to where the server is located and check on/reset it. Please give us a couple hours to get this resolved. Do not worry about your funds, we will be back.
7  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. on: July 06, 2012, 12:43:13 AM
Shit, wrong account.

Well, TORwallet's lead developer will be attending.
8  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. on: July 06, 2012, 12:41:46 AM
I will be attending as well. This looks like its going to be an interesting defcon.
9  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: July 06, 2012, 12:30:05 AM
You should consider an invoicing system akin to the one mtgox has developed with ability to charge in fiat.

What?

We can display the USD value, but I don't see the point. Are you using torwallet as a receiving address for customer deposits?

You should consider an invoicing system akin to the one mtgox has developed with ability to charge in fiat.
+1000 Make the exchange please B <-> LR and become a winner in this race exchanges!

This is an interesting idea, however an exchange is significantly more complex than our service, and we do not feel that we can deal with the multitude of possible security threats that one experiences.

If anyone does implement this and needs assistance please do contact us.
10  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 28, 2012, 02:07:59 AM
For all those who are concerned about leaking your TORwallet URL, we have now implemented an optional password feature. Once set the password will be required to send coins from the wallet.
11  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 27, 2012, 05:31:13 PM
I know you meant that, and you are incorrect. The private key of the SSL certificate is stored on the .onion site, not on the torwallet.net server. Perhaps you should look closer at how socat works: it has the option to serve up its own certificate, but that is not in use here. It is simply concatenating data between ports 443 and 9050, in both directions.

I mean the private key of the SSL certificate of torwallet.net, not the SSL certificate of the .onion site ......
The SSL private key for torwallet.net is stored on the .onion server, and the .onion server does all the encryption and decryption. That's why it's a little slow; all the traffic must pass through tor first to get to and from the remote .onion server

torwallet.net does not have a private key of its own stored on it or in use for it.

This is exactly correct. We actually posted the incorrect socat command earlier so that may have led to some confusion. This is what we are actually using, pasted straight from the torwallet.net server.

socat TCP4-LISTEN:443,fork,su=nobody,reuseaddr SOCKS4A:127.0.0.1:nci2szjrwjqw2zbi.onion:443,socksport=9050

The torwallet.net server does not decrypt the SSL session, it only forwards encrypted data between the .onion and the client.
12  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 25, 2012, 09:35:33 PM
Although you do not have a wallet on torwallet.net, hacking of torwallet.net will expose the secret code, and thus the balance of the accounts of those who use torwallet.net.

It is impossible for google or anyone else to find the link to a TORwallet unless it has been posted somewhere. Those instawallet links were most likely indexed by google visiting instawallet.org and being redirected to a new wallet.

We are working on adding an optional password field to the site. We are waiting for our developer to get back from vacation.

Hacking of torwallet.net will expose absolutely nothing. https://torwallet.net is nothing more than a proxy, and actually has more in common with a port forward in your router. It doesn't even understand http and does nothing more than pipe data through tor.

In fact, here is the command we use.
socat openssl-listen:443,fork,reuseaddr,su=nobody socks4a:127.0.0.1:nci2szjrwjqw2zbi.onion:80,socksport=9050

Hacking of nci2szjrwjqw2zbi.onion would reveal current balances, however the attack surface is limited to a single port.
13  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 22, 2012, 08:34:40 PM
It is impossible for google or anyone else to find the link to a TORwallet unless it has been posted somewhere. Those instawallet links were most likely indexed by google visiting instawallet.org and being redirected to a new wallet.

We are working on adding an optional password field to the site. We are waiting for our developer to get back from vacation.
14  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 20, 2012, 08:16:25 PM
We'd like to thank Bitcoin Magazine for reviewing our service. Here are a few comments and responses we had on the article.

Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine
While the idea seems convenient at first glance, the effectiveness of this implementation can be called into question. First of all, the representation of TORwallet as an “anonymous mixing bitcoin wallet” is somewhat misleading. One would expect such a wallet to carry out its mixing functionality automatically and behind the scenes, so that user could be comfortable in the knowledge that the “mixing wallet” is doing the mixing for him, but in TORwallet this is not the case. For mixing to take place at all, the user must activate the feature manually by clicking the “mix coins” button and paying the greater of 3% of the amount mixed or 0.5 bitcoins as a fee, making the “mixing” and “wallet” functionalities essentially completely separate. This particular way of implementing the mixing functionality is highly problematic not only because of usability, but also because it limits functionality; what if a user periodically deposits new coins that need to be exchanged for “clean” coins and does not wish to pay a 3% tax on his entire pool of savings every time he does so?

Our wallet will mix your coins even if you never pay the fee, but you will not know if and when your coins have been mixed. When someone clicks the mix button, it draws on all coins in our service, including those from people who have never clicked it. The button is there for those willing to pay a small fee for the immediate certainty that their coins have been mixed.

If you are periodically depositing coins, simply deposit them to a new wallet and mix them. Move them to your old one if you must, but we suggest using a new wallet regularly for greater anonymity anyway.

Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine
The wallet’s security model, a copy of that used by InstaWallet, is also problematic. The strategy of using the URL as the password is highly problematic, since it means that anyone who gets access to your browser can simply look through your history, open up your wallet and drain it within seconds. Accessing the wallet only through a private browsing mode (which the Tor browser bundle does by default) solves this problem, but also creates the problem of having to find a place to store the URL. To prevent attackers from easily finding it with a simple file directory scan, it would have to be stored encrypted, and at that point what you have is simply a more cumbersome version of a proper username/password authentication framework like that used by secure wallets like Blockchain.

We are considering implementing a function where you can password protect the wallet, so that the URL will become a username rather than password.

We also suggest password protecting your computer and using encrypted LVM, TrueCrypt, or BitLocker to prevent anyone untrusted from accessing your computer and browser. This is a general security recommendation for everyone whether you use our service or not.

Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine
Both of TORwallet’s key functions have superior alternatives as separate entities – Bitcoin Fog as a mixing service, as it takes a smaller fee (randomized 1-3%) and a smaller minimum (1.00 BTC withdraw with no fixed fee component), and Blockchain is a stronger wallet. Furthermore, there is even a service which can be described as a mixing wallet done right: Silk Road. The Tor-based black market auction site employs a secure mixing service intended to be safe enough even for users engaged in illegal activities for all bitcoins passing through the system, and includes the send, receive and storage functionality needed to make a basic wallet work.

Our advantage over Bitcoin Fog and Silk Road is our convenience and speed. You can immediately withdraw your coins at any time without the wait. Both other services delay deposits and withdraws for at least a few hours. We only require 2 confirmations. We suggest withdrawing in multiple transactions to different addresses, however users are free to do as they choose. One use case for our service is people sending coins to and from Silk Road, so that rules them out as an option.

Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine
The last problem is that of trust. As we know from the examples of MyBitcoin and Bitscalper, anonymous services whose only function is storing money cannot be trusted simply because the profit that they would earn from running away with everyone’s coins at any point is sufficiently high compared to the profit that they expect to earn in the future by acting honestly that it often is expedient for them to disappear. Deposit accounts can still be trusted; if the provider provides enough information about who they are and where they can be found, the threat of law enforcement will shift the calculus toward honesty, and even some anonymous services can be trustworthy. In the case of Silk Road, for example, users only need to store change in the service for a few days, and the owners have an effective source of fees, the future expectation of which is sufficient to continually entice them to conduct themselves honorably. TORwallet, however, is intended to be a long-term money storage provider, and has chosen to maintain their anonymity, placing them on par with Bitscalper in terms of the level of trust that they presently deserve.

Our users are free to store coins for any term they like, from minutes to years. At this point, it does not seem like knowing the identity of the service owner or being easily traceable has helped anyone recover bitcoins. Both MyBitcoin and Bitscalper would have been easy to track down by law enforcement, however they are not even willing to get involved with thefts of something not legally recognized as currency. What they are certainly willing to expend resources on is tracking people laundering money for any number of reasons.

We also highly value our reputation. We will be launching several new services in the coming months as they are developed.

Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine
The one feature that TORwallet does have over its alternatives is its direct accessibility through Tor as a hidden service, something which no other online Bitcoin wallet (except Silk Road and its ilk) has available. Aside from that advantage, however, the service has a long way to go in terms of implementing a reliable framework of security and trust. One suggestion would be to switch to a Blockchain wallet security model, where the wallet is stored encrypted and all calculations are done client side, and to seamlessly integrate the mixer into the wallet as a deposit mechanism – the wallet would show a deposit address where users can send their funds to, which automatically triggers a mixing service which sends randomly sourced bitcoins to the wallet that the user controls perhaps less a 1-2% fee. This would solve the trust problem and the security problem while making it much more of a true “mixing wallet” at the same time. Abandoning the Instawallet URL-as-password model for something more secure is another necessity. As it stands, however, there are much better alternatives for the functionality that it provides.

Switching to a Blockchain security model would make our service impossible. We rely on having a pool of coins to mix your coins with, the larger that pool is the more difficult it will be to associate incoming and outgoing transactions. Switching to a blockchain model would require us to buy far more coins than we can afford to in order to increase pool size.
15  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical on: June 20, 2012, 05:02:18 AM
Wow, we made Forbes! Never expected that to happen!
16  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 19, 2012, 04:36:48 AM
We thought it would be a good idea to configure Tor as a relay to increase security.

Wouldn't that increase the likelihood that someone finds out your server's IP address/location?

Not unless someone decides to hack or raid every tor relay. Being a relay mixes your traffic in with other people's traffic, making it more difficult to do timing and correlation attacks.
17  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 19, 2012, 04:01:01 AM
We just experienced about an hour of down time. We thought it would be a good idea to configure Tor as a relay to increase security, but it used up all the ram on the server and we had to reboot it.

Please do not worry if you had deposits. We are here for the long term.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hey for the love of Satoshi can I PLEASE pay a tx fee? on: June 18, 2012, 08:02:08 AM

Yhe point of the thread was to create a discussion and hopefully encourage providers to give the users THE OPTION.  Sometimes I may want to pay nothing and be comfortable knowing it gets into the block eventually.   Sometimes like when paying a sale I want it in the next block.  Period.  If that takes 0.0001 or even 0.01 BT I would rather pay it then wait an unknown number of blocks.  Even if the default is no fee, users should always have the option of paying a fee (or an increased fee) otherwise they have no control over their transactions.


I think the reason that no one gives users the option is because it is not supported in bitcoind. We would if it was possible.

Using settxfee opens up issues with concurrency errors. Say user1 sets a 0.0005 fee and user2 sets a 1 btc fee. RPC commands arrive at bitcoind in this order,

User1 settxfee
User2 settxfee
User1 sendfrom
User2 sendfrom
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hey for the love of Satoshi can I PLEASE pay a tx fee? on: June 18, 2012, 07:45:12 AM
We use a standard bitcoind with the coincontrol patch. Outgoing transactions use whatever fee it chooses, sometimes it is 0, other times it can be as high as 0.002, but the majority have been 0.0005.

If someone patches bitcoind so that you can set the fee in sendfrom, sendmany, or sendtoaddress please let us know because we are more than willing to add an option on our site.
20  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: June 16, 2012, 11:50:31 PM
We hope that this will get you to use us as not only a mixer, but a regular wallet as well.

Why would you hope for that?

It increases our mixing pool and legitimizes outbound coins from our service. Our goal is to be widely used for all types of transactions and mix all the coins together, completely disabling the concept of tainted coins.
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