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1  Local / Markt / TE KOOP: Bitmaintech S1 en gridseed miner on: June 28, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
Bitmaintech S1 zonder voeding te koop, perfecte staat,
0.3 BTC zonder verzending, kan afgehaald worden in Belgisch Limburg tijdens de week

Gridseed miner (dual miner ltc/btc), perfecte staat met voeding en usb kabel
0.15 BTC zonder verzending, kan afgehaald worden in Belgisch Limburg tijdens de week

Verzending kan via kiala of een via bpost pakket, afhaling wordt geprefereerd.
Betaling mag ook in euro.

2  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - NEW IPO, NEW HARDWARE, 1,500 TH/S HASH RATE on: May 21, 2014, 07:29:16 PM
@NotLambChop : No problem, as said thanks for your time and opinions !

@Howardb : Then we seem to agree on all points Smiley
I also didn't have any issue with the initial win/win plan potential, but their last move made my alarms go off as well....
3  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - NEW IPO, NEW HARDWARE, 1,500 TH/S HASH RATE on: May 21, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
@NotLambChop

Firstly thanks for the response,
I did misinterpret your statement.

I must admit I personally have an issue with the idea of an IPO in an already running fund and the way it went down.  

The abbreviation IPO seems to be used without any sense of meaning on havelock so the idea of 'sound investments' is gone from the moment you start picking up shares over there anyhow.  They were able to buy shares, set a new price and lock out all the others (who made it happen from day one) in the meanwhile.    In my opinion that is what market regulation does on the normal market, regulating those types of excesses ...
Yes we all have made bad decisions based on emotions (or at least I did buy stock of companies that I shouldn't have), but a normal firm is never able to do this type of manipulation (or not so visibly anyhow).  I would understand that they would create some risk based derivative as in an option plan for themselves, but these are also publicly published in a normal market situation.  Now the market deregulation is so clearly visible that staying in the market seems illogical all together.

Giving I already received feedback that portrayed me as being a cryptx fanatic of some kind I would like to restate I have never made 'investment advice' regarding them, rather I posed questions and made statements regarding likelihood of them being scammers giving their personal exposure.

I do appreciate your feedback, link to previous cases and your critical view overall, sharing these is what forums are ment for in my opinion !

So thanks for enlightening me regarding the Brewster story.
4  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - NEW IPO, NEW HARDWARE, 1,500 TH/S HASH RATE on: May 21, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
Thanks for your swift reply.

Yet up until now if they would have just done nothing, they would have been well off as well.
As in, there is no clear reason for them to start scamming in my humble opinion.

Shares can only be sold to other interested parties, so the risk is shared between the share holders,
the hosting fee is a fee that is payed no matter if the share price should fall, it would just burn out sooner rather than later due to the lacking initial power to keep up.  (hereby already indicating that in my calculations keeping up with the network with reinvestments is simply not possible)

I am interested in your last statement however...

If I would understand how cons worked, they wouldn't ?

Care to enlighten me ? 
What I stated is that if they would really be complete scams they would be better off in just letting the fund 'starve to death' at the 0.45 hosting cost and open up a new one with a new venture instead.
Now they have published their names, addresses, ages, registration numbers out in the open for all of us to see.

Clearly I have missed something from the Danny Brewster story since they are not youngsters, so please do clarify.



5  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - NEW IPO, NEW HARDWARE, 1,500 TH/S HASH RATE on: May 21, 2014, 05:51:19 PM
That's the problem with virtual companies, there is no corporate governance, we have no 'rights' as shareholders, in fact we are not even represented by shareholder elected directors. So we should not be entirely suprised when so called 'founders' steamroller through their own decisions regardless of whether they might represent a conflict of interest.

Having said that, I knew I was taking a chance on the people behind honest when I got into this. But there IS a very good reason why none of these IPO's would be legal in the developed world.

Cryptx differs from being a virtual company in my humble opinion.

Since they are a registered company in Belgium they actually have their names, addresses (and names of their spouses... err. spouse in singular since one of them is unmarried) online through what is called in Belgium 'het staatsblad' which lists the registration papers of all companies.

I do agree with all of you that their main source of income is the hosting of 'our' miners, but that seemed obvious to me from day one.
On the other hand if they would really like to scam us I personally would think they would have done it in a less privacy-exposing way than this, so I still trust in the fact they are trying to make a decent income, while not biting the hand that feeds them...

Yes they are bad at communication, yes their math is way-off from time to time, but they are out in the open, and not 2 script kiddies having a blast without any risk towards themselves... If they really were in it for a short time scam, I would imagine they would have serious nightmares given that they are so exposed to all of you...

So nope, it is not a virtual company.
It is a normal SME, struggling to improve without a doubt, but I truly believe in their intentions to make it a win-win for most or all of us.
And Peta-Mine and Scrypt are just vehicles towards this end goal I think/hope.
In the end I think they had a great idea (and the balls to do it) and up until now they are doing a great job in trying to get and keep it going.

Regarding IPOs like this not being legal in the developed world...

Most if not all (even big) dot com company IPOs should be deemed illegal then, since most of them don't care about their users or shareholders, most of them have never even had profit in their books... Even the bigger companies like Apple are known to not have their corporate strategy tied by activist shareholders (remember the debate regarding flowing some of the excess cash towards the shareholders a few months ago).

I do agree that most dot com companies are not sound investment strategies,
however as long as there is demand we are on the wrong side of the tape/ticker aren't we...
6  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: bitcoinminingmachines.co.uk -- hardware importer and retailer on: March 15, 2014, 11:42:33 AM
Hi,

Thanks for your swift update and reply !

7  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: bitcoinminingmachines.co.uk -- hardware importer and retailer on: March 14, 2014, 05:53:12 PM
Dean,

Can you please take a look at order #245 ?
I wire transferred the payment on the 9th of March in euro yet order is still 'pending' instead of a status change to 'payment received'.

Tx.
8  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread) on: March 13, 2014, 10:51:21 PM
Hi,

Will you restore our NMC addresses to a time before the attack or do we need to track this thread
to receive a go to be able to change it ourselves ?

Cheers and thanks for all your effort !
9  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS Antminer S1 (200 ghs) EU on: March 05, 2014, 06:02:58 PM
Still up for sale ?
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: July 16, 2012, 09:53:33 PM
Have to say this one fun way to exclude trolls Wink

Has a student / prospect of an MC feel to it ...
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: July 16, 2012, 09:50:54 PM
Just saying hi as an EU newb here
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