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1  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Feature Proposal - Armory Snap Package on: September 24, 2016, 03:04:23 AM
I personally don't think it is necessary. However, if there are a lot of users on other linux distros that would like a packaare .onion sites securege, then we can make such packages.

We'll see what the feedback is like. I've been interested in a fedora package for a while.

Support all possible use cases > Support only debian derivatives 

There is a debian package. You have to download it from where we upload binaries on github.

Sorry, I was referring to the debian repository. The installation process is manual. Snaps allow for a debian-like installation experience but go around the debain packaging politics.
2  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Feature Proposal - Armory Snap Package on: September 24, 2016, 02:39:01 AM
If you think that it is useful, you can make one and submit a pull request and we will consider it.

My belief that a snap package would be beneficial is what prompted the proposal. However, what I believe isn't important. I've never built a snap package and don't want to unless you guys reasonably believe that doing so would be beneficial. Does the development team and the general userbase believe that migrating to the new package format would be beneficial?

From memory, my understanding is that no debian armory package exists because because of debian's politics with respect to updating Armory. Instead of just having a debian package and circumventing debian's packaging politics, we can also have a package that works on all major distros.

Firefox, VLC, Docker, and others are migrating to this package format.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2942267/why-ubuntu-plans-to-replace-traditional-linux-packages-with-something-better.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3060143/linux/mozilla-will-provide-firefox-as-a-snap-package-for-ubuntu-cutting-out-the-middleman.html

I'm not trying to sell this but it makes sense to me. Snaps appear to be the future of application packaging.
3  Bitcoin / Armory / Feature Proposal - Armory Snap Package on: September 24, 2016, 01:54:56 AM
It would be beneficial for armory to be packaged using the new snap package format because doing so will allow armory to run on all major linux distros, all of the software needed to make armory work can be bundled into the snap, a common linux end user experience can be realized, the armory installation will be sandboxed, and the installation process will be greatly simplified and standardized.

Is there any interest in an armory snap package? Has anyone built an armory snap?

http://snapcraft.io/
http://snapcraft.io/create/
4  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: BTC for Goatpig's work on: September 23, 2016, 01:48:41 AM

Every penny counts, but there are some circumstances to consider. First of all, Bitcoin isn't really suited for many small donations. I guess I could setup a changetip account which will avoid all the on chain consolidation, but suddenly I have to dedicate time to that stuff. I like to take my time and weight out each option properly, and I just don't have the brain cycles to deal with that atm.

Next, I won't setup a donation address until I'm happy with the level of my contribution. Currently I don't want to think about that until the new wallets are out.

I'll be watching for you to accept donations.

There are other ways to contribute besides direct donations.

You could petition Theymos to get me or a veteran member elevated to moderator. It would be very useful to be able to set stickies on this sub forum.
You could participate to testing phases and review code.
If that's not your cup of tea, you could write tutorials for Armory.
You can also try to isolate and reproduce specific bugs and report your findings on the issue pages of the github repo. This would drastically reduce the cost of fixing the bug on my part.
If you have some web design in you, I would consider setting up a gh-pages branch and merge in yours PRs. This project could definitely use a webpage. It would be pretty cool if it was community managed too.

Ok, I'll try to participate in the development of armory.
5  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: The new Armory website on: September 23, 2016, 01:30:29 AM
I thought Armory was pretty much dead as no one talks about it anymore. If you guys are looking for any translators for both Arabic and French language then I'm available to help. (using transifex would be great)

I have been using armory everyday for at least a year.
6  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: BTC for Goatpig's work on: August 13, 2016, 12:10:37 AM
I would like to support goatpig's efforts as well because Armory is mission critical software for my use case.

Although this would likely be unpopular, personally, I wouldn't mind a small non-optional fee built into the pre-compiled clients that can't be removed, so he can skim a small transaction fee and % of a point off of every transaction. At the very least, an optional suggested donation fee should be present, shown to the user, and should have be manually set to zero by a cheapskate to avoid donating. Maybe a running cumulative suggested donation based upon the total volume of the transactions could be shown to the user that can be cleared if a transaction is actually sent.

It's wonderful to be altruistic but as time goes on, the foregone opportunity cost associated with donating time to a volunteer effort mounts. The original Armory project seemed to implode because there was no push to generate income from the project. In fact, Armory was giving away bitcoins to other groups like the EFF, which was puzzling to me. Armory is very important to some of us, so we want to support the project to ensure its survival. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for the money or seeking compensation for ones efforts.  Even if donations are not perceived to be necessary, banking a war chest for a rainy day when funds are needed is a good idea. If goatpig doesn't want the money, he can use it to hire another coder.

The only reason I can think of that someone might want to reject funds is to avoid any tax related shenanigans. Maybe he doesn't have time to setup a non-profit etc.

I may not post much but I do frequent this subforum and I am interested in supporting this project.
7  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Will the free open source Armory wallet continue to be developed going forward? on: November 12, 2015, 04:34:24 AM
Would you guys be able to republish it so that we can make aaacommunity developed version based on what has already been written?

If it comes down to that I will release everything I have and maintain the software myself.

Your willingness to fork the project to keep it open source is reassuring. Unfortunately I have no choice but to research alternative clients because of the rumors of uncertainty being posted on the forum.


Cute sentiment but I do not think you understand the type of resources required to build this type of software where individuals can generate and hold the private keys of their own wealth. Funding the building out of the core infrastructure the entire community uses has not been cheap and many people have made significant sacrifices of both time and money to get Bitcoin where it is today.

Thank you for your generous financial contribution to Armory. The features found in Armory have made bitcoin a viable payment method.

On one hand, you appear to be indicating that Armory needs funding, while on the other hand, you're directly turning down a donation offer from a user and dismissing the idea of end user donations as "cute." There are Armory users who depend on Armory to process significant transactions. If Armory needs funding from the people who use it, why not ask for the money or at least accept money from people who are offering it?

When I visit the Armory home page, I see no indication that the project is in need of funds or any fund raising effort whatsoever. There is no visual aid indicating how far into the red Armory is. I don't see a donations page or button. I see the opposite of raising money, Armory is matching donations to other organizations like the EFF, giving bitcoin away. https://bitcoinarmory.com/donation-match-list/ I found a donations payment address in a discrete location on the bottom of the contacts page by searching the Armory home page with a search engine.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I do not see any indication of a donation area, button, or payment address within the Armory client itself either.

I would be happy to voluntarily donate to the project. However, discussions casting doubt on Armory's future as open source software are alarming because closed source cryptographic software is a nonstarter and Armory is a critical application for some of your end users. Armory devolving into a black box will motivate Armory users to look elsewhere.
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