I'm writing this and then I'm done. After 7 years being on this platform, you guys managed to piss me off   and for what? For such a small amount (~80000 sats).... But the amount of the satoshi I lost isn't the matter, the matter is that A. either this site's security is crap or B. the admins mess around with accounts.

My story is that a few months ago (late September - early October), I noticed something weird happening on my account. More info about that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320959.msg56063942#msg56063942

I got lucky that time and the shock of what happened was balanced out by the earnings I made. Still, that thing scared the crap out of me, so I had to secure my account, in case it was a hacker attack. I withdrew my winnings, changed my password and enabled 2FA. But kept using the platform as I did the past 6-7 years.

This brings us to today. I routinely kept using the platform most of the day since I woke up this morning. And only a couple of minutes ago, I noticed that ALL of my previous winnings where gone! So, having a flashback, I immediately checked the roll history... Here it is.



Look at the times. I played one last roll at 00:43 before I went to bed and the first roll of the day was at 7:16 just before I got into my car and head to work. I was SLEEPING on the meantime. All the while I was sleeping, my PC was turned off and my phone was charging on a stand AWAY from my bed. I live alone on my appartment. And no, I have ZERO history of sleepwalking, further more sleep-gambling.

But somehow, I had a free Roll at 3:24 and an All-In Hi-Lo Dice Roll at 3:26. Honestly, I don't mind if it was successful or not, I'd be off the platform either way. This is a SERIOUS ISSUE and last time I mentioned it, it was scrubbed off by members of FreebitCo.in. Well, I'm out and I urge you guys to be wary with your funds! Either 2FA doesn't work or the admins are messing around with people's accounts!

Have a nice day and keep your hard work safe!

So, they need to play the Multiplier and/or buy lottery tickets to counter it? Sounds fair.

P.S. The information mark next to the roll is... "vague" to say the least. Like, there's already a huge orange box above that says "play Multiply, bet on events or buy lottery tickets to increase your free btc roll" and then you get a green box that says the same exact thing... It should be made clearer that this reduction is done due to multi account abuse and what steps someone should take to get his/her account working as intended...

Hey guys, quick question about referals...

I have a few refferals on my account and one of them tells me his base free roll on the faucet is always 1 satoshi less than my account. I.e. when the free roll on my account is 6 satoshi, his is 5 and when it's 7 on mine, it's 6 on his. Now, this is suprising enough on it's own but it gets weirder... One of my refferals got her own refferals and one of them only gets 2 satoshi per free roll, while me and her get 6 or 7...

Now, I was under the impression that each tier of free rolls give the equivalent fractions of $200 for the max bonus. $20 worth for 2nd highest tier, $2 worth for 3rd etc, down to $0.002 worth for the base roll. But 2 satoshi is only $0,0006666 worth... But the other tiers are normal, i.e. base roll is 2 but 2nd lowest tier give 60+...

Why it that? Any ideas?

As I stated above, I had already used a strong password (as I do in every site that requires a login). But after this instance, I didn't only activate 2FA on freebitco.in but on every other platform I have money on (Paypal, CoinBase, Crypto and a couple others). Guess you can never be TOO careful online...!

I never used Multiply BTC... Well, "never" is a strong word, I used to bet 1 satoshi a few years back trying to "cheat" the system but I stopped when I didn't get results. As you can see on my personal stats, the hourly free rolls severely outweight the Multiply BTC rolls as I rarely (shouldn't say never) used it...

https://i.imgur.com/pByvQFk.png

(btw, @freebitco.in.... I have more than 10000 rolls and still havn't rolled over 9998...!! My OCD starts to complain!  )

But, to be clear, I NEVER, and I strongly point that word out, played on Multiply BTC the last 2-3 years. I only used the faucet and the intrest, that's it (and a bet on Paris Saint Germain that a friend claimed to be a "sure win" and they lost, so I never bet anything on sports ever again either ). And such a thing never happened before. My girfriend is from another city and she was at work and I live alone with my dog when my gf doesn't come to visit. Now, a break-in would be possible but I doubt someone would break into my home, wager on freebitco.in, win a bunch and then leave...


That's what actually bothers me!! If a hacker gained access and won these BTC, he'd at least make a withdraw attemt to sent all these to his adress. No withdraw attemt was made! I would know because withdraw attemts DO NEED a mail verification.

Honestly, I'm just trying to figure out what happened. I'm 110% sure it wasn't me doing these rolls, even if it was me, I'd NEVER use my whole balance to a single roll. I'm somewhat glad it happened but I can't wrap my head around coming back home and instead of finding all these satoshi, I might as well would find my balance at zero.

I trully hope noone else experiences that...!

@TheQuin (or any other member of freebitco.in support)

So, I have this weird story from October 2020... I've been an old member of freebitco.in and I've been using the faucet for years. Nothing hardcore, just having the site around while at home or at work, clicking the "Roll" button everytime my mind gets to it. All in all, through the years, I managed to gather a small amount of 0.018 BTC. I was happy, just earning my intrest, clicking my free Rolls and watching BTC price going up, hoping that my small amount can someday reach $1000 so I can take a nice vacation out of it.

And then came October 2020... First of all, I must make clear that I NEVER gamble. Never had, never will. The only "gamble" I engage in my life is buying a lottery ticket every new year. And this is what makes this story weird.

So, one day, I come back home after walking the dog and sat down on my PC to mess around. As I had the site open on the PC already, I did another free Roll and I noticed that the free roll base amount went up. My first thought was that freebitco.in made adjustments and raised the base free roll up a bit. And then I looked up...

0.45142584 BTC

I was like.... "What the hell? This must be a mistake". I refreshed my page a couple of times but the amount didn't change...! So, naturaly, my thought went to maybe winning the lottery, so I checked there. No, my ID number wasn't on the table. I was about ready to write a mail at support about this, if it was a bug or something that I unintentionally did, I didn't want to lose my account and/or the small amount I worked for.

Then it hit me... On the Multiply BTC page, there is a roll history! That records eveything happening to your account (except bettings, dunno what's up with that) so I looked there... What I saw shocked me...

https://i.imgur.com/DPbDCNY.jpg

Someone, or something, logged in to my account and bet all of my savings into Multiply BTC! (I took the screenshot a few days later to show it to a friend of mine so one roll is missing at the bottom of the table as it moved to the second page. It was the initial bet that doubled my amount which was lost on the second one -bottom one you see on the screenshot). I should note that I live alone with my dog and we where both not at home when this happened. And this "thing" kept betting the starting value over and over and when the value was 5x the starting, it increased the bet to include all of it and then did it again... Then it stopped.

It hit me quite hard that this was most likely a hack and I came so very close to losing what I gathered for such a long time (not that I would be devastated or anything, I'm not living off BTC) and I immediately changed my password (which was a secure password in the first place, don't know how someone could find it out and login to my account) and enabled 2FA.

Since then I reluctantly must admit that I enjoyed some of that BTC, I gave myself and my girfriend some nice gifts and had a nice time at Christmass and still left a hefty amount on freebitco.in to get the daily intrest, while still rolling hourly as I did all these years.

But, it's been bothering me since then... What logged in in my account and made these bets? My best guess is a hacker but I'm quite a tech-savvy person and I know my way around secure passwords and decrypting passwords and mine was as secure as it gets (12 digits long, alphanumerical, both Upper and lower case letters plus a symbol) so brute forcing is not an option... My other guess would be a leak from inside freebitco.in but I'd like to trust that you people know what you're doing.... So... What was that?!

Is THAT what you understood from what I wrote??

Omg, and you call ME a newbie!

Tell me ONE other scam site that remained OPEN and continued to recieve deposits after "closing down"... Every other scam I became aware of since I became active with CryptoCurrency just vanised from the net, taking the currency with them. But, read this part carefully please, CRYPTEX.IO IS STILL UP AND ACCEPTING DEPOSITS!!!

So, it's been 3 weeks since Cruptex.io announced it's termination and 4 weeks since it stopped all payouts but the weirdest of things is still happening... The site is STILL LIVE!! And not only that, it still ACCEPTS DEPOSITS!! So, all-in-all, admin announces the termination of Cryptex.io but not only they don't close it, they still keep it running and get more and more CryptoCurrency from people too naive/too unaware/too bored to look... So, I can only think of two possible explanations this happens...

A./ They either try to build a capital from scratch (since they claim a staff member stole their capital before they announced the termination) or

B./ They just bluntly steal CryptoCurrency from people, exploiting the good reputation they got prior to the termination...

I tried to contact Cryptex.io support for some info about the future of the site (in the case it was starting over, I wouldn't mind re-investing to them) but no answer ever came back...

What do you guys think??

In any case, if you are unaware about what happened with Cryptex.io, read the topic I linked above and please, please, PLEASE DON'T INVEST your currency with them until this is shorted out...!

Cheers!

Do you have any way of proving that it is a scam??

Face it people, nothing is a scam until it becomes one! And the most basic rule of all... NOONE will give you money for FREE!! Unless they gain much more than you do, expect it to be a scam!

That's a good line to use when you try to attract people to invest in you... Oh wait, no.. It isn't!!

This looks intresting...!

I'm in!

I've been using CryptoHourly for a week and a half now and here's my view of it...

First of all, yes, it DOES seem like a "semi"-ponzi scheme so if anyone is afraid of being scammed, stay clear of it.

Secondly, I'll make my own case... I'm new to bitcoins and I consider myself a "BTC Farmer" (if there's a term like that)... I don't mine for BTC, I don't purchace BTC... I just collect bits and bits of Shatoshi here and there and fill my wallet. It's not very efficient and I KNOW it will take a loooooong time to make 1BTC just from that so investment sites like CH are mandatory for the capital to grow. So, is CryptoHourly a good investing site?

For small timers like me, yes it is. Firstly, even if they DO scam me, big deal... I would have lost the 0.007 BTC I collected (and invested) so far. Sure, it would be a wast of time for all the farming I did but meh... It's not like I stopped living to get those (I wasted many more valuable hours on pointless video games, doing this is nothing!! ). If it isn't a scam, then from one point on I will stop farming alltogether and just reap the rewards from CH.

But will CryptoHourly last??

I don't know much about bitcoin mining and stuff (like I said, I'm rather new to this) but CH's buisness model seems... Legit! I mean, their investment profit is 3.6% daily. This means that an investor will get his investment back 100% in a month. Now, CH claim to have an ASIC array for mining so, if they can make 1-10 BTC daily, so in a time-span of a month (until the investor gets his capital back) they will probably have mined much more BTC than what they need to return!

What does that mean for investors?

For small timers like me, it means that CryptoHourly will have no trouble keeping up with our Balance up-keep. Considering that most of the investors are smalltimers (or carefull investors) that don't just pour their hard earned BTC into them, their mining gains should be enough to cover everyone already. And, up to this date, it hasn't even been a month since the site launched, so no Investor ever got their full investment back 100%.

But, again... Will it last?

Like I said before, this feels like a ponzi scheme. Only accepting investments over 0.001 BTC (5.1 BTC if you want to sign up for the 0.20% hourly profit?)... It does sound fishy. So, I guess the first "milestone" for this site is the day they reach a month of existance. That's when they will have repayed their first investors 100% and they will have to pay them "out of their pockets" from there on. But, like I said before, if they DO have a descent ASIC mining array and they profit from that, they will have no problem keeping the company running. The second milestone would be the halving of the newly generated BTC in 2016 (from 25 per 10 mins will go down to 12.5 per 10 mins). This will mean that their mining probably won't be able to keep up with investment profits. After that, they will have to either drop the profit rate or just abort ship, take away the rewards and live hapily ever after.

To tell you the truth, I'm more concerned about the second mileston than the first one...

But IS IT a ponzi scheme?

Only way to expose a ponzi is to make large investments right away. A ponzi scheme depends on small investments to create an initial capital in order to live up to their profit claims. If someone right off the bat invests a huge amount, the schemer will have to either deny the offer or grab the money and dissapera because, in the long run, there's no way he can keep up with the profits. This will also happen with CryptoHourly if people start throwing large amounts of BTC their way. So, I guess it's up to us to either keep our investments small (well, like I could do otherwise! ) and see how deep the rabbit hole goes or throw away our BTC to expose their scam (which, I should say, isn't an entirely profitable move!).

Again, up to now, they seem legit... Let's wait for the first milestone (their one-month anniversary) and then we'll see how it goes.

Cheers!

Disclaimer: I'm in no way associated with CryptoHourly in any way other than being a registered investor on their site. I'm just willing to give people a chance and look on the bright side of things than being a straight up "nay-sayer" just because a transaction went bad.

P.S. I noticed that every time I sent BTC from my BlockChain wallet to CH, it charges me with 0.0002 BTC as transaction fees. I.e. on my last investment, I sent 0.0015 BTC to CH but my wallet balance was charged for 0.0017. This happened to every other transaction I did towards CH, don't know if this is normal or it has something to do with CH. I've only sent BTC to CH after all, nowhere else...