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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: stabilizing bitcoin market on: September 11, 2012, 06:42:13 PM
The 21 million limit is bitcoins bigges problem, and probably why it'll fail, IMHO.

1. The monetary supply can't expand. And no, you can't just move the comma to the left. If you divide 21 million into 210 million units of 0,1 bitcoins, you still won't get more bitcoins.nthe cake doesn't get any bigger, by people cutting it into ever smaller pieces.

2. It discourages trade, and BTCs adoption as an everyday currency. A very big group of BTC users (more than half probably) believe that Bitcoins have a very bright future, will replace/supplement fiat currencies and be worth a lot more in 5-10 years from now. As a consequence they hoard a big part of BTCs instead of spending them.

After all: If bitcoins in 2020 are going to replace just a few billion dollars worth of fiat currency, because of the 21M ceiling, it follows that one BTC is going to be worth hundreds, if not thousands of 2012 dollars in purchase power. What kind of fool would use every one of their bitcoins right now when theyre worth 8-12$ if they can hold on to them as an investment for ten years when they'll be worth thousands of 2012 dollars a piece.

When Satoshi designed the BTC protocol, I also don't think he predicted how fast the development in mining hw would be, nor what kind of people it would attract. (If he'd know for a fact the collective financial IQ level of the community and how gullible the community would be, I think it would be designed with more safeguards in place)



I reject your first premise. Price is best to climb slowly with no downturn. Why would a store owner be upset with his holdings being worth more? Prices can go down. People with coin can buy more. Ever poor people eith not much money. Every little bit of purchasing power help

This is exatly why the supply has to be slow. If it goes too fast it might crash again. As the price rises people will sell there coins slowly to get the most out of it. The "pie" gets bigger the more each coin is worth. Commerce will be stable as long as people don't crash the market. The deeper the market gets the more stable it will get.


2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: stabilizing bitcoin market on: September 11, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
The 21 million limit is bitcoins bigges problem, and probably why it'll fail, IMHO.

1. The monetary supply can't expand. And no, you can't just move the comma to the left. If you divide 21 million into 210 million units of 0,1 bitcoins, you still won't get more bitcoins.nthe cake doesn't get any bigger, by people cutting it into ever smaller pieces.

2. It discourages trade, and BTCs adoption as an everyday currency. A very big group of BTC users (more than half probably) believe that Bitcoins have a very bright future, will replace/supplement fiat currencies and be worth a lot more in 5-10 years from now. As a consequence they hoard a big part of BTCs instead of spending them.

After all: If bitcoins in 2020 are going to replace just a few billion dollars worth of fiat currency, because of the 21M ceiling, it follows that one BTC is going to be worth hundreds, if not thousands of 2012 dollars in purchase power. What kind of fool would use every one of their bitcoins right now when theyre worth 8-12$ if they can hold on to them as an investment for ten years when they'll be worth thousands of 2012 dollars a piece.

When Satoshi designed the BTC protocol, I also don't think he predicted how fast the development in mining hw would be, nor what kind of people it would attract. (If he'd know for a fact the collective financial IQ level of the community and how gullible the community would be, I think it would be designed with more safeguards in place)



Wow dude, no if there is any flaw in bitcoin this is not it. There is no cieling. It will never "max out"   One bitcoin can be worth a trillion dollars. Or 10 or 100 and its still divisible to a dollar "coin" "unit"
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: stabilizing bitcoin market on: September 11, 2012, 07:30:01 AM
Ant you looking at it wrong. There are 2100000000000000.  Or 2.1 quintrillion "coins" possible. Or 350 billion for every man women and child on the planet earth. So really its why so many?

There is absoltly nothing about a decimal place that effects anything about bitcoins viabilty.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road Down? on: September 11, 2012, 01:02:52 AM
OP is FBI just trolling for SR users.  Huh
5  Other / Beginners & Help / A true Bitcoin bank. Accepts bitcoin deposits and Monitizes accounts. on: September 11, 2012, 12:42:47 AM
Has anyone seen on the form a startup Bitcoin Bank that insures Deposits in USD, <or other native currency?

Ie Insures against price devaluation? It could be profitable when the price is going up; but very important to sell if the prices go down.

I want people to be able to open an account anytime and be guaranteed there deposits regardless of what BTC is trading at.

anyone?   

6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: September 11, 2012, 12:35:17 AM
let me out! I hate this timer!
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BlockChain.info Website Not Safe. Unable to withdraw bitcoin! on: September 10, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
i'm seeing it more and more
since satoshidice some pools limit txns they accept
https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions shows waiting txns
1314 Unconfirmed Transactions right now
https://blockchain.info/ shows how many of those are getting included in blocks

txns with fees get higher priority too

Trying to close out my last account with blockchain.info

unconfirmed for 12+ hours https://blockchain.info/address/1MPfZytnzfkqw9N9RW8u3sCbuZUemVkvh1


does blockchain.info default settings not use the transaction fee's?
don't mind paying .005 to avoid these crazy wait times but didn't realize I need to set it.
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BlockChain.info Website Not Safe. Unable to withdraw bitcoin! on: September 10, 2012, 03:11:17 AM
** update, it confirmed about 10min after I posted.

never seen a transaction take all day like that. easily about 5 hours before it showed up in client.
9  Other / Beginners & Help / WTS 5btc pryaming account for 4.5 Willing to use escrow, transfer wallet on: September 10, 2012, 02:44:06 AM
I opened an account with pyramiding very hastily. The post I read made me think the 10pct was hard to come by and after clicking a ton of dead links I hastily put a lot more in then I should have. For some reason I was under the impression I could withdraw whenever after collecting some interest.

I am not happy with reward amount; I know 45m/hash should give me more BTC then the account is reading.

If anyone has more faith in this program then me I would be willing to sell this account for 4.5btc

I understand its a bit tricky to trade possession of an account.

I'm thinking the best way is i'm going to clean out this wallet of all btc. Decrypt the account and transfer possession. One you have verified possession and can put your own new password on the wallet.

I would feel better about the transaction if we used an escrow service. You deposit 4.5 into escrow and only after your comfortable with possession do you release.

This is my account
197AmScUheUZFjVoDPJCXUfEjN6cgZy5s9
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BlockChain.info Website Not Safe. Unable to withdraw bitcoin! on: September 10, 2012, 01:29:34 AM
>bump
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Failed transation? wont confirm? blockchain.info wallet to pc client on: September 09, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
going on 2 hours and still not showing up as unconfirmed... is this money lost?
12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Matthew Neal Wright: You have been reported to the SEC and Korean authorities. on: September 09, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
 just in OP who reported MW bet welch to the SEC gets arrested for illegal gambling.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / BlockChain.info takeing 12+ hours to withdraw bitcoin on: September 09, 2012, 09:09:41 PM
This transaction was made over an hour ago. Still no confirmation nor does my client show unconfirmed BTC

Ive been using this client just fine on my PC. many transactions. this is my first transaction on blockchain.info wallet after being loaded a couple days ago.


https://blockchain.info/address/17ZyUAymCGQJm6imGBirdEBb2T7fSFaUrw

and

https://blockchain.info/address/13SpUK2geH1QBx11Puiha7S5ptcrxV16bs

Both unsonfirmed for hours and not showing up as unconfirmed in my client.

As well as my second account
 
https://blockchain.info/address/1HwguV7ueUhvchKShN8Lkx4iVKtXmY12Qm

I attempted to send the second to a completely different wallet.

I have email blockchain.info and they have yet to get back to me
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